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Could Bob Lazar be who he says he is?

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posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by OSSkyWatcher
 


He would've had to at least have something published in order to receive his PhD. So, there should be at least one article out there by him.


Bob Lazar claims two Master's degrees, but no Ph.D, that I am aware of. Some Master's programs don't even require a thesis, much less any publications.




posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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buddhasystem
i love how you don't look at the video i posted of the physical evidence on paper of lazar working there in the youtube video

you can clearly see him in the newspaper, there is no claim of him in a phone book he's actually in the 1982 Los Alamos labs phone book

also you got your history of lazar in los alamos from his site

" United Nuclear was formed in 1986 by Los Alamos scientist, Bob Lazar. Bob had previously worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory ( specifically in the Meson Physics facility ),"

www.unitednuclear.com...

so...

you have no clue what he did there

and just cause you worked anywhere for any number of years doesn't mean you have seen everything, you work at a 3 story walk up for 12 years, one day the janitor tells you theres a vault in the basement, all that means is that you didn't know

"Yes, I visited Los Alamos in 1994 and I could walk into LAMPF if I wanted to, but I never cared, I was there for a different experiment."

you were there "visiting" also so...doesn't mean much, not like i get to see the real white house if i go visit is it?

AND

if bobs physics lack, why do YOU pay for gas in your car? and bob drives around with his own invention



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 04:43 PM
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My mistake then. It's been a while since I've looked into Lazar and could've sworn he had a PhD.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by OSSkyWatcher
if bobs physics lack, why do YOU pay for gas in your car? and bob drives around with his own invention


Exactly my point! How come Bob has a cheap source of energy that would make anyone infinitely rich, and yet he keeps borrowing money from people, including his parents, without repaying it? Maybe he needs to pay for gas, after all?



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 04:56 PM
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www.youtube.com...

exactly buddah

you were visiting los alamos

you drive a gas powered car, bob drives this www.switch2hydrogen.com...

you have no proof of bobs current financial situation (IMPORTANT - SEVERE ORDER BACKLOG - Due to our extreme order backlog, we will not be processing any new orders until the end of January. We strongly suggest you wait until then to place any new orders. We are currently working on orders that were placed in mid-December.) www.unitednuclear.com...

looks like he's fine or should be once the orders are filled

bob's current financial career is dependant on his physics and scientific knowledge

also Bob has something very big planned, heard on C2C radio

so maybe the person, the OP is an agent wanting to smear his name until Bob Says w/e or does w/e

John Lear said himself Bob was at the pentagon not too long ago



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 04:57 PM
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Well, this was only 3-4 years ago. We didnt have to fax or sign anything. I would call a university (or company) and say "Can you verify that John Doe was a student here and graduated on 1/1/08". They would always call me back and say the info I had was correct or incorrect.

Grant it, I worked as a Private Investigator - which tend to do things differently then say an HR person at a company


[edit on 25-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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www.unitednuclear.com...

mars image bob has up on his site

maybe there is something in it for people to see, not me though, mikesingh or zorgon or someone else

just interesting to see which picture bob has up and if there is anything in the pic



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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Well we all know how government works in secret and is controlling peoples decisions by mass media and other technologies (via. HAARP) . Look at how they are trying to make Ron Paul look, yet still failing.

Bob Lazar was said to be a hoax because there were no "proof" of his work/education/money... nothing. He claimed that government has erased all this information and that he got hired by government through another contracting company where he was working.

Investigators met with the representative of this contract company and asked if they knew Bob Lazar, they claimed that he "never worked there, and that they have no idea who this man is"! Ironically enough the investigators were able to find a "phone directory" from the years that Bob claimed he was working there and funny enough his name was on that list. When they showed this to the contract company they refuse to respond!

Time to wakeup people, we are being #ed up the ass by our own governments (few people in the power).



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by OSSkyWatcher

so maybe the person, the OP is an agent wanting to smear his name until Bob Says w/e or does w/e

John Lear said himself Bob was at the pentagon not too long ago



If I were you, I suggest you retract that statement about me since I've made myself clear on my post as to why I'm asking this question. If anything, you'd think that the way I worded my question could be said to actually lean in favor of believing Bob's claims. I am in no way trying to smear Bob's name since I don't know him personally nor do I know absoluetely every fact behind him and his involvement. Yet another reason why I was asking the question in the first place.

I am simply curious to people's opinions because it's not the first time I've heard that the govt. can erase your records if you try to mess around with top secret information (mainly my dad, who believes that I'm actually being watched for some reason).



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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After having spent the last 60 years deliberately cultivating an air of extreme ridicule with regards to the whole subject of UFOs, governments don't really have to worry about leaks of UFO related info.

Quiet frankly very few people would believe a leak. Most mainstream journalists would either avoid it like the plague, make it the butt-end of a joke (if they did ever decide to write about it), or just ignore it altogether. Scientists wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, and the general public would do just what they are conditioned to do... laugh nervously, roll their eyes and whistle the theme to the twilight zone.

I keep hearing people say ' no government could ever keep a secret this big'.... Well, HELLO!!... You can keep a secret this big. Just shout it from the rooftops, but make sure everyone is predisposed to laugh, shout "ridiculous" and not believe a word of it.

Like my sig says... Best way to keep a secret is to have it out in the open, but have no one believe it. It allows you to investigate the matter with impunity, and it might even let you do things like fly gigantic triangles around the globe, and then cal;l any witnesses to them nutjobs, hoaxers, misguided, etc.... AND GET AWAY WITH IT AGAIN AND AGAIN!

Now apply my thinking to the whole Bob Lazar question. Frankly, whether it's Bob Lazar, or someone with a pristine record and background, ANYONE coming out with the sort of claims that Mr Lazar made will just not be believed by mainstream journalists, scientists and the general public. So in a nutshell, it doesn't matter how much the government machine leaks, the secret is safe.



[edit on 25-1-2008 by Dagar]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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I was surprised to see that his old website is no longer password protected, this is the first time I have been in:
www.boblazar.com...

Questions for John Lear:

1) Do you still talk to Bob?
2) Why has he never tried to prove his MIT background? Seems like a bad time to disappear, what's the point of releasing all this info only to be laughed into hiding...
3) If you do speak to him, can you ask him to give ATS a day of questioning with him or something?



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:14 PM
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well question look at the youtube video

bob was working at los alamos labs

and buddah knows nothing more than that, what he said about lazar was what is on bobs on website about himself

schaden it's 1989 pay stub and he took in about $1,000 for that period, i dunno how you can tell from that piece of paper how long he worked there or how long the pay period is but....lets see proof of them switching over during WW2 cause i saw something contradicting it the other day

if you people look at bobs website, i think it should be somewhat clear that he is a scientist, and knows what he is doing



[edit on 25-1-2008 by OSSkyWatcher]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:14 PM
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My understanding of Mr. Lazars work at A51 was he was to reverse engineer alien tech(propulsion). I'm no physicist and I don't play at being one on these threads, but I do understand a bit about science. To claim he is a fraud because he produced no results the rest of us will consider is conceit. Consider this; if we were to provide the Wright Bros. prints and schematics of a WWI bi-plane could they have built one? Of course not. Materials, power curves, basic aerodynamics as they had evolved to that point would have been elusive to them, at best. For us to regard Lazar as a fraud for failing to break technology that is who knows how far ahead of us is counterproductive. Is Lazar a fraud? I DUNNO. Is his story intersting? Yeah, I think so.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo


Grant it, I worked as a Private Investigator - which tend to do things differently then say an HR person at a company


[edit on 25-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]


Oh really? Well now that you're NOT a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR, could you tell us those 'things' that say an HR person at a company does not do that PI's do DO??

Lol, would love to know that and I'm sure others here would like to know too!

This IS a conspiracy forum afterall so you would be making a valuable contribution to this forum by telling us how PI people get their information.




[edit on 25-1-2008 by Palasheea]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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Ive never been in HR, so I dont know exacts of how they do things. But if an HR person is doing a background check on someone, generally they have to get signed persmission from the person. At least in the companies I have worked for. A PI doesnt have to. They can do extensive background checks on a person and the person would never know.

A PI would also have resources available to them that an HR person might not.


[edit on 25-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by OSSkyWatcher
bob's current financial career is dependant on his physics and scientific knowledge


Then it must suck to be him because he exposed his ignorance if basics in nuclear physics on a few occasions, and on my memory, via at least two of his claims posted here by his medium, John Lear. One foobar was in the setup of the "experiment" where Bob was showing John the alleged piece of 115, and the other was in the voltage needed to deflect an alpha particle.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by Palasheea
 


Ive never been in HR, so I dont know exacts of how they do things. But if an HR person is doing a background check on someone, generally they have to get signed persmission from the person. At least in the companies I have worked for. A PI doesnt have to. They can do extensive background checks on a person and the person would never know.

A PI would also have resources available to them that an HR person might not.


[edit on 25-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]



Um... lol, so what resources do PI's have available to them other than searching trash cans -- that an HR person does not. This was my question.

Once again:
Oh really? Well now that you're NOT a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR, could you tell us those 'things' that say an HR person at a company does not do that PI's do DO??

Lol, would love to know that and I'm sure others here would like to know too!

This IS a conspiracy forum afterall so you would be making a valuable contribution to this forum by telling us how PI people get their information.

[edit on 25-1-2008 by Palasheea]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dagar
Now apply my thinking to the whole Bob Lazar question. Frankly, whether it's Bob Lazar, or someone with a pristine record and background, ANYONE coming out with the sort of claims that Mr Lazar made will just not be believed by mainstream journalists, scientists and the general public. So in a nutshell, it doesn't matter how much the government machine leaks, the secret is safe.


I disagree. Of course, one person with a story will always be suspect. But all it takes to verify it are the same things it would take to verify any story. Corroboration, hard evidence like artifacts, even traceable paperwork. That stuff isn't sitting on Pluto (supposedly). It's right here on Earth, and potentially available. Presented with good, hard evidence with enough factual links to back it up, the government couldn't just ignore it.

But Lazar, like all of the other "UFO whistleblowers" just can't seem to produce the goods. The dog always eats their homework. If somebody else should happen to pop up with good, verifiable documentation or other hard evidence, I'm sure that the most die-hard skeptic here -- which could be me, for all I know -- would be pleased as punch to look at it with a microscope and see what the experts have to say. And the only way this couldn't happen, in spite of the supposed MIB Silencers, is if it was all bunk to begin with. Good, verifiable whistleblowing is not impossible, unless there's nothing to blow your whistle about.

But as a die-hard skeptic, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen.


[edit on 25-1-2008 by Nohup]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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Bob Lazar has a very obvious desire for drama, be it in his videos, driving fancy cars, or in his pictures, it's clear to see Bob Lazar desires other people's attention.

Such a personality is more likely to make up fantastic stories and those stories are more likely to get more fantastic when they see the attention it brings them.

I believe a very small bit might be truth, perhaps the government made the mistake of hireing him and then it snowballed into Bob Lazar's own personal carrier being Bob Lazar.

Bob Lazar tends to showcase sociopathic tendancies.

The likelyhood of it being a reality is cut down dramaticlly.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:54 PM
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What about BOB?

If what we have heard of grays or whomever is true, then memories can be given and taken away and......

There could be several clones, hosts or containers used by the same or different alien entities. A person who is also a human and a host might not have certain memories sometimes either. This way a container, puppet, android and or clone as a host could be used alternately so to continue working 24/7

So when Bob Lazar is reported to have been an idiot savant at certain times, then he might not always be Bob Lazar either. Does Bob Lazar have any scoop marks on him?
He might not if he's a clone also. But he might have something that marks him as a different container, such as an RFID chip or similar.

I thought I remember hearing about a story of german soldiers fighting the Russians during WW2 and also found dead looked identical?

Maybe I've just read and watched too many science fiction stories?




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