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Am I weird for wanting a Situation X type event to happen?

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posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:17 PM
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Thank you for "getting" it.

Yes, it is exactly the way you say. Others who dont get "it" are special and that's ok too. I get "it" and i am very level headed. As i said before, check around for traffic, the supermarkets, just before a rain storm. I'm in retail and people will just come out shopping so they can say "I was out in it"
Recently we were preparing for a little hurricane that was threatening us, well, it was as though THE END was here. I could understand it if they were buying to prepare for such an event, however, they came into the place i worked loking for Windex and other items that had nothing to do with such a storm. That's when i asked some people "Why come out in weather like this"? They just looked at me and for the first time i heard the truth: "Just so we could say we were out in it"- NOW, that rang like the truth!

I dont care what anyone says, people do like to put themselves at harms risk just so they can talk about it.
I'm no psychiatrist, but i am observant.
Hell, hurricane parties are some of the best social events in Florida. I know, i lived there for awhile.


So, NO, no one is sick, its just nature. I too, at the end of it all, want to lay on the couch and watch my favorite shows by the fireplace, and i want to kow everyone i love is safe.




posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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I kind of have those feeling too, looking forward to world cataclysm , collapse of civilization and all, but for me it's mostly because of boredom with the way things currently are



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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I think people want it to happen because it tests themselves and also its the fall of structure as we know it. Imagine if there was a real zombie problem. No school no work all we need to do is find food and survive. People find this very entertaining.

But if it really happened, wed be wishing it didnt.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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I understand, but I think their eyes can be opened through peaceful means. I believe destruction has to occur, just in a differernt way. The way these people view themselves, other people, and the world needs to be destroyed.

I don't think people really see the worthlessness of the materialistic goals they have. I don't think they realize the problems we all face are created by ourselves. That the poverty in other nations is directly related to the wealth of our own(what's left of our wealth. heh, I'm sure there's as much wealth now as before, it's just that more of it's in the pockets of the wealthy while the "system" gets ready to collapse on the working class who've built this empire.)

I think they can learn to see. It has to be approached in personable ways. What opens the eyes of some men may not open other's eyes. That's part of the problem. Some here think that revealing the "truth's" of the NWO should open everyone's eyes, but the word conspiracy has a way of strengthening the knots in the blind fold wrapped around these people's eyes. You'll never convince them of a NWO until it's far too late. So, if you want to defeat this supposed NWO, You're going to need these people. You have to open their eyes in other ways. You have to make them work towards a goal that is against the NWO's, without ever mentioning the NWO. Because the NWO might not exist, but that doesn't mean that peace shouldn't be worked for. That doesn't mean that the officials we know are corrupt don't need to be taken out of power. We work towards peace regardless of the powers that be, and we'll get the world we desire.


The dalai lama said the path to peace in this world starts with inner peace. That has to be recognized. I don't think you're ever truly at peace with yourself if you still hold irrational hatred in your heart.

What's irrational? every bias that's been set up around us for us to embrace. Nationality, religion, sexuality, politics race, gender, pop culture, fashion... Everything. When you hate another man for one of these things, it's irrational. Most of these things, we don't even choose. We're born into them. How can you be proud of or hate something about you or someone else that you/them had nothing to do with? It's irrational, it needs to be said to these people. I need to talk to some of these people. I think some of them have heard this, but I need to know why this doesn't register in their mind. It's baffling to me.

Their inability to accept being wrong has to do with the ego. Just a quick observation: How many people on here do you see actually admit that they're wrong during their arguments? Does anyone admit that their viewpoint's wrong, besides on Dr. Phil's show?The people going to that show already know they have a problem, they just don't know what to do about it.

The Iraq War, do you expect to hear any apologies coming from our "leaders" about that? You expect murderers or pedophiles to see themselves as bad people? The ego makes it almost impossible for these people to see themselves as being in the wrong. The desires of these men take top priority in their own mind, the damage done to others means little in comparison. A very fitting quote from Dr. King :

An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity.

Too many people are stuck on their own desires. The funny thing is though, can any of these desires truly be linked to themselves? seems to me that most people jump on what's popular and shoot for that, instead of truly being free individuals and deciding for themselves what they want to be.


The most important opinion about yourself comes not from outside, but from within. Instead of dawning a false persona, impressing strangers with material objects, popular trends, or current fashio

[edit on 25-1-2008 by ThePiemaker]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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Very well said. People love drama and big events. It's just like watching the movies, but more real and therefore more exciting.

Why do you think more newspapers sell when something big and exciting happens? Because people love it.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:11 PM
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It all comes down to accepting who you really are. When you can accept your weaknesses as readily as you accept your strengths, when you welcome criticisms as readily as you welcome compliments, when you judge your desires based on what's right rather than judging what's right based on your desires... this is when you have gotten past the ego. This is when you've attained inner peace. This is what will lead to world peace, if it can spread across the globe.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Quazga
Really? What wonderful things are we capable of as a race? When have we ever showed ourselves to be any better than we are now?

It was the advent of civilization which has caused most of our highs and lows. And each new high brought with it lows. I can't think of any one thing we have done "right" which hasn't also brought horrible consequences.

I'd be much obliged if you could point out something which violates this postulate


I understand your frustration with our progress as a race. I agree. But we have done great things in this world and while the score sadly seems that we have done and are doing more harm than good, I say that we are capable of harmony.

To try to violate your well crafted postulate I put forth this...
Music, Poetry, Theatre, Art. Or more specifically lets say Shakespeare.

Or if the argument being that these cultural marvels are only benefit to our own race, which I agree, I would present the Endangered Species List or any number environmental organizations which improve the planet.

No other species on our planet is capable of being so selfless. We are the beings who can most easily bring harmony or destruction to this world.

I honestly believe that with our current technology we could environmentally feed, water, clothe, and house every human on this planet if we just manage our resources efficiantly.

Our current situations are the build up of years of mismanagement. Soon we will see a great revolution and things will change. The world is breaking now, and something has got to give.


[edit on (1/25/08) by AllSeeingI]



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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I'm exactly the same.

I don't talk about it or even really 'think' it, but subconsciously when i hear about this threat or that threat i get excited.

When i see movies like Cloverfield, War of the Worlds etc. etc. all i can think is 'what would i be doing', 'where would i go'. I feel like i need to test myself in a life-or-death survival situation.

It may be just the want of change, but i don't think so.

World War 3? Bring it.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:54 PM
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This thread and the mentality some people have is the reason the human race is going down the toilet. I have the opposite problem. I'm fed up with all the selfishness, lies, deceit, death and destruction and it will only change and get better when people change their selfish negative attitudes.

People who wish to harm others or wish that some destructive event would occur, do so because they are either psychotic or are basically complete failures in life and therefore want everyone else to fail as well, just to make themselves feel better. Some people just need to get outside more and socialise and do something adventurous and fun, then you might not hate the world as much.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 07:08 PM
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As much as you would like to think so, I doubt your any different. You would not be ON this forum if you were - since it talks about all manner of conspiracy where there is ALWAYS something evil going on. The heart of conspiracy is something "wrong" is going on, and people love to talk about it. Because they love the idea that it's going on. It makes life interesting.

People love destruction, its part of the human psyche. There is a reason why the Arena in Rome was so popular and the elite could control the unwashed masses by providing them with blood and gore. People love it, as long as its not directly happening to them. Things change once it happens to them. For example, on this board you see tons of people wishing and hoping for an economic armageddon in the United States. They want it so badly. Were one to actually happen, they'd be extremely delighted - until it impacted them personally. Then they would change their tune.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 07:09 PM
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I feel that most people believe that some kind of catastrophe is going to happen very soon. Some people believe that it will be military action, natural disaster, Mayan calendar, galactic alignment, etc. I personally believe it will be global climate change(disasters), followed by food shortages, and then by military actions over food and resources. I think that within the next 10-30 years, that we will be seeing alot of changes and disasters.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 07:20 PM
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for some reason this thread made me think and the old doctrine of charles darwin -> "Survival Of The Fittest" came to my mind. maybe we really wish those disastrous events to take place because we want to test ourselves in such unknown dangerous situations. maybe we just want something to happen because we actually know somewhere in the back of our mind that our civilization will come to an end anyway in near future and so we want this to be in our lifetime just because of pure boredom and / or the possible adrenaline kick we would get.


so i think the next few years (->2012) will be pretty interesting in terms of events that could finally lead to total extinction / annihilation. but who knows. time will tell and everyone should prepare himself for the ultimate ride to come...



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Question
WOuldn't it be interesting that, if situation X does arrive, is because the powers that be really are that same child we used to be playing with legos? Constructing, playing, getting tired, then knocking it down to re-create once more.

I myself feel that I've grown too dettached to this particular level of society. I just can never get into the whole materialism and greed to the level we see this day not just with corporations that continue lobbying for more of their interests and less for the community. But our kids are also growing up with these things influencing them through TV and other media.

I guess I'm just too dam*ed old fashioned and still want to believe in a better humanity. But if the above is where humanity is going, then maybe we do need a major event to occur to remind people of their humanity.



The moment you have 10 million dollars you will change. Yep, everything changes when you don't have to put any effort into surviving.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 07:46 PM
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I think Tool has said it best:


Eye on the TV
'cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavour
It happens to be like;
Killed by the husband
Drowned by the ocean
Shot by his own son
She used the poison in his tea
And kissed him goodbye
That's my kind of story
It's no fun 'til someone dies

Don't look at me like
I am a monster
Frown out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie
Into the TV
Stare like a zombie
While the mother
Holds her child
Watches him die
Hands to the sky crying
Why, oh why?
'cause I need to watch things die
From a distance

Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
You all need it too, don't lie

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?

We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
Neither the brave nor bold
The writers of stories sold
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing

I need to watch things die
From a good safe distance

Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?

Blood like rain come down
Drawn on grave and ground

Part vampire
Part warrior
Carnivore and voyeur
Stare at the transmittal
Sing to the death rattle

lie

Credulous at best, your desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men.
Pull your head on out your hippy haze and give a listen.
Shouldn't have to say it all again.
The universe is hostile. so Impersonal. devour to survive.
So it is. So it's always been.

We all feed on tragedy
It's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I



Especially telling and prudent to this conversation is the line "You all need it too, don't lie"

I have always been attracted to disaster, and repulsed at the same time when the consequences are analyzed. It is in us from birth to desire both peace and war, good and evil. We can't figure it out (well most of us), so we struggle with it.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by slackerwire
Is it odd that I really want something bad to happen?

I dont really care what it is, be it China invading us, Aliens invading us, a Cloverfield type event, natural disasters, massive attacks, or just plain martial law. I dont really care, I just want something to happen.

Not sure exactly why, whether it would be a new experience, or because I truly want to test myself, but is it odd/weird that I want disaster?


It's definitely not odd, more normal actually. A lot of people want things like that to happen. If they are not comfortable with ordinary life, or even they feel as if something horrible will happen anyway they think,"Why not happen now?"

Though I myself, feel the same as you. For 2 years I have wanted something to happen, and I hope it is coming soon.

-Sin



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 08:29 PM
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This is a cry for the 'Shift'. A 'Paradigm Shift' if you will and it will happen. But what we need to realize more than anything is we need for this not to be painful. We need to do this ourselves with no disasterous help.
Remember this, 1 person believing in love and peace out does 1000 people believing in hate and chaos.
Love is the answer. I know it sounds way over simplified but love IS the answer.
My favorite movie quote is "The trick is not bending the spoon with your mind...rather the trick is knowing the spoon does not exist".
What your seeing today is not real. It is totally manufactured.
WE WANT PEACE. And more than that we all want LOVE.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by ThePiemaker
...What's irrational? every bias that's been set up around us for us to embrace. Nationality, religion, sexuality, politics race, gender, pop culture, fashion... Everything. When you hate another man for one of these things, it's irrational. Most of these things, we don't even choose. We're born into them. How can you be proud of or hate something about you or someone else that you/them had nothing to do with? It's irrational, it needs to be said to these people. I need to talk to some of these people. I think some of them have heard this, but I need to know why this doesn't register in their mind. It's baffling to me...


You speak the truth Piemaker, and until people start to question their desires and bias we will then start to change our humanity.

As I read the thread few things become apparent, the desire for change, the desire to feel part of a cohesive society, and the desire to be acknowledge as an important member of society. This, I believe, stems from the feeling that we have lost control not only of our governments, of ourselves but also of our Earth. It stems from the inability to affect change. It is part of the belief that everything is corrupt and the only way to cleanse it is via a cataclysm.

It sickens me every time I watch the news and see the cruelty inflicted on our brothers/sisters in Africa, on our brothers/sister in Irag, and closer to home our borther/sisters in the USA. The death of an innocent child or the un-timely "departure" of a mother to be, is enough to send us, or at least me, into the depths of despair and makes me question my humanity. Makes me question our ability to transcend in to something better. Whatever that might be?! At that exact moment, I wish that X would come and allow us to start anew.

But I have to believe, as difficult as that might seem, that one person can make a difference. That my actions today, no matter how small or insignificant, will have a possitive change on my children, my neighbor, my friends or that stranger I met walking down the street. That this will better the world we live in. But I have to believe............

.................a "revolution" is in order.



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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I understand what your saying, but I also have to wonder if that is because it is so easy to distance ourselves from the reality. I mean for most people 9/11 was just something that happened way over on the east coast and while it was horrid it wasn't directly happening to us and didn't feel as real as if it had actually happened in our backyard so to speak. Maybe you would feel differently if it happened to you personally, not just something indirect happening in your country?



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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Are you kidding me?
It's not at all an unusual feeling.
You are only "weird" for admitting it. (Publicly, to boot. )

Oh, and by the way: deep down, what's fueling it is a sentiment known as "apocalyptic joy".



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 09:00 PM
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I think that most people feel this way. They long for something dramatic to happen to the world. I remember when the tsunami hit Indo and I was glued to the TV waiting for them to show some great video. I was like, "Wow, that's crazy!".
And its an interesting concept when you are young, or single. Six years ago I got married and have two daughters now. Suddenly that scenario becomes much more real when you have other people you are responsible for. It becomes something that was once kinda cool to think about in how much it would change the world. But DAMN, it gets to be a scary prospect when you think of something like that happening and having kids to protect. It changes the entire dynamic of 'disasters' when you have an entire family that you are to protect, that mean more to you than your own life.

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