The Smoking (Anti-Aircraft) Guns (of Los Angeles, 1942), page 10
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:36 PM by WitnessFromAfar
reply to post by Nohup



That's not entirely true Nohup. There is data that proves the target was solid. Radar doesn't bounce off of air...

I'm sorry to be rude, but you ARE aware of the multiple radar returns from the craft. It is intellectually dishonest to phrase your question to NephraTiri as if you were unaware of these facts.

The United States Army documented those radar returns. This clearly indicates solidity...

-WFA


p.s. Nohup, it's been too long old friend. I've missed you


reply posted on 19-2-2009 @ 03:53 AM by Plusthon


Effective Beam length: 5.6 miles
www.ftmac.org...
beam 5.6 miles
Hypotenuse = 5.60 miles

height 1.00
Side 5.51
Hypotenuse 5.60

we can start working

[edit on 19//2/0909 by Plusthon]


reply posted on 28-2-2009 @ 02:30 PM by WitnessFromAfar
reply to post by Plusthon



Hi there Plusthon, nice to meet you. I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I'll be joining the discussion in appropriate formula at some point this week.

Hello to everyone else, on this day of the 2009 Re-Enactment of the Battle of Los Angeles!!! (I'm so excited)

I'll be out at Fort MacArthur today, for at least a few hours, SuperMan Sock hat and all

Hope to see any LA ATS Members there!

-WFA


reply posted on 28-2-2009 @ 02:32 PM by WitnessFromAfar
reply to post by Extralien



I'm going to U2U you my personal Email. I'll check it from my phone while I'm there. If you'd like me to document anything while there, let me know

-WFA


reply posted on 28-2-2009 @ 04:02 PM by Plusthon



reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 07:54 AM by undermind
Originally posted by WitnessFromAfar




So the object at 0200 is located 120 miles west of L.A.




Clip 3:







At 0226-0227 it is within 3 miles of L.A.






Clip 5:

The target in question is the one from clips 2 and 3 of this post, and is the likely object photographed by the LA Times. The object is tracked on radar for 21 minutes, until it is within 3 miles of Los Angeles at 0227.











117 miles in 27 minutes = 4.3 miles per minute or 260 mph.



Carry on.











[edit on 1-3-2009 by undermind]


reply posted on 2-3-2009 @ 08:28 AM by Plusthon
reply to post by undermind


the problem is that the speed corresponding to the speed of Japanese planes (if there have been, which was demant)








www.ww2f.com...


reply posted on 2-3-2009 @ 08:59 AM by Plusthon
Santa Barbara's Ellwood
Oil Field Submarine Attack


Ellwood Oil Field


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The LA Times:

"From Santa Barbara, area of the submarine attack Monday night, District Attorney Percy Heckendorf said he would appeal to Lt. Gen. John L. DeWitt, commanding officer of the Western Defense Command, to make Santa Barbara County a restricted area for enemy nationals and American-born Japanese as well. "There is convincing proof," Heckendorf asserted, "that there were shore signals flashed to the enemy." Heckendorf said the people will hold Gen. DeWitt responsible if he failed to act. Army ordinance officers, meanwhile, were studying more than 200 pounds of shell fragments from missiles fired by the submarine, which caused only $500 damage in the Ellwood oil field near Santa Barbara."

It is said by some locals that the skipper or one of the officers on the Japanese sub had worked in the Ellwood oil field some years prior to the outbreak of the war. The story claims that the man had been mistreated by some of his co-workers during that time, had returned to Japan before the war began, and had then subsequently helped lead the submarine back to the area to make it's attack.



reply posted on 2-3-2009 @ 01:37 PM by WitnessFromAfar
reply to post by undermind



I came out with a different figure, in this post:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think it's closer to 334mph.

Please reference the linked post and the posts above and below it, and let me know if I've missed something.

Welcome to the case Undermind! Great to see you here with us!

-WFA


reply posted on 2-3-2009 @ 01:40 PM by WitnessFromAfar
reply to post by Plusthon



Plusthon, I would agree with your sentiment, please see this post:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Wherein I examined the American and Japanese Planes in existence at the time, and measured the data against the observed evidence in this case.

None of the aircraft around back then could do what this object did, for certain.
I'd love to hear your feedback on the link above...

-WFA
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