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Raising questions about 911 gets Army Sergeant demoted

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posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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Gotta disagree with you. If the individual hasn't filled out an SF 86 form( turned it in with their S2, and had a background check that includes interviews of references), and in a job that requires a clearance, then they don't automatically have a secret clearance. I had a coworker that had to wait over 2 yrs to get their secret clearance adjudicated, before they could do their job, and they'd been in 14 or 15 yrs already. Additionally, I've seen many soldiers that were either intitial entry or reclass get turned down for their MOS because they weren't eligible for a secret clearance.

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posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by BlueRaja
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Gotta disagree with you. If the individual hasn't filled out an SF 86 form( turned it in with their S2, and had a background check that includes interviews of references), and in a job that requires a clearance, then they don't automatically have a secret clearance. I had a coworker that had to wait over 2 yrs to get their secret clearance adjudicated, before they could do their job, and they'd been in 14 or 15 yrs already. Additionally, I've seen many soldiers that were either intitial entry or reclass get turned down for their MOS because they weren't eligible for a secret clearance.

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Okay, cool beans. I have to defer to your personal experience and obviously more recent at that!

Thank you, genuinely, for your service!

Cheers,
SAP


P.S. I just realized where my memory may have failed me. I was in aviation, on flight status, as a crew dog and FI for UH-60's. Everyone in my unit had at least a secret - that doesn't mean that everyone has a secret in every MOS. Let me refine that further, everyone on flight status had a secret clearance.

The only thing secret-squirrel, security-clearance-related thing I ever did was get a once a year(?) briefing VIA a headset at a shielded (from other eyes) work station (seriously….was kinda goofy) under the watchful eye of the S2 NCO. This briefing consisted of what the bad guys were up to in the AO (in so much as equipment that can shoot down helicopters, etc) where we would have to deploy if the dung hit the fan. I was in the 25th I.D., so figuring out who was the topic of those briefings shouldn’t be all that hard. Also, it was mundane stuff, nothing interesting.

My bad, my mistake and nobodys' fault but my own.

At least I am willing to admit I am wrong, that's something.....right? =)


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posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 08:17 AM
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No problem. What you may have been thinking about was an interim clearance, which can be granted. This one can be done much sooner than a full clearance.



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