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Raising questions about 911 gets Army Sergeant demoted

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posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 12:51 AM
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Raising questions about 911 gets Army Sergeant demoted


www.tnjp.org

These days, Donald Buswell’s job is not as exciting or dangerous as it once was. For the past few months, his working hours have been spent taking care of some 40-plus wounded soldiers at San Antonio’s Fort Sam Houston medical center. The work is sometimes menial, even janitorial, but he doesn’t mind. After all, Buswell has been where these men are — three years ago, he too was recovering from wounds received in a battle zone in Iraq.

“I truly consider this an honor,” Buswell told his dad not long ago. Still, it’s not exactly where Buswell expected to be after 20 years of well-respected service in the Army.

Since joining the Army in 1987, he had risen to the rank of sergeant first class, serving in both Gulf Wars, Bosnia, Rwanda, and Korea. He ended up with shrapnel scars and a Purple Heart and, back in the U.S. after his last tour in Iraq, a job as intelligence analyst at Fort Sam Houston.

He couldn’t have foreseen that one e-mail could derail his career and put him on his way out of the Army. One e-mail, speculating about events that millions of people have questioned for the last six years, was all it took...

Sgt. Buswell wants to know: What really happened on 9/11? And he said so in his e-mail. In the few paragraphs of that August 2006 message — a reply not to someone outside the service, but to other soldiers — Buswell wrote that he thought the official report of what happened that day at the Pentagon, and in the Pennsylvania crash of United Airlines Flight 93, was full of errors and unanswered questions.

“Who really benefited from what happened that day?” he asked rhetorically. Not “Arabs,” but “the Military Industrial Complex,” Buswell concluded. “We must demand a new, independent investigation.”

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posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 12:51 AM
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Well, just goes to show you, if you sign up for the service, you are bought and paid for by the U.S. Gov-No questioning or free-thinking is allowed. Not even through e-mail.

This guy didn't buy into TPTB's 911 story like many of us, and speaking about it cost him...

www.tnjp.org
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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Brave man. Should be more like him. No one should care what other people think about them, no matter who they are. People that want truth, and go out to seek it, by action, and by speaking up are modern day heroes in my book. The REAL truth seekers.

watchZEITGEISTnow



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 01:00 AM
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Good. There is such a thing as moral and discipline and honor in the army. He showed poor judgement against moral and no discipline by expressing his personal views. Corrosive effects on moral are swiftly dealt with, and rightly so. Army life is not civilian life.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 02:49 AM
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your scolding him for bush blowing up the WTC man your a winner.

do you kick puppies to when there down



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
Good. There is such a thing as moral and discipline and honor in the army. He showed poor judgement against moral and no discipline by expressing his personal views. Corrosive effects on moral are swiftly dealt with, and rightly so. Army life is not civilian life.


I think you mean "morale", not "moral". Anyway, you are saying that we should lose our freedom of speech when we join the Army? Isn't freedom of speech the stated reason usually given for fighting in the first place? Why should the rest of America be able to speak freely, but not the soldiers, the ones who are actually doing the fighting?

Man, that's some twisted logic you have going there.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 06:40 AM
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I agree with forestlady on this one.

These people are supposively fighting for freedoms, and they aren't allowed to use them?

But, hey, if you have a problem with free speech, feel free to revoke your own.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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From the responses I see some of you people cannot even get your conspiracies straight. He questioned the pentagon and 4th plane not the trade towers.
I mispelled morale as I typed in a hurry, oooh that really debunked my point. So I will say "supposively"



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:01 AM
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I agree with Section8, there is a place for everything. Having a person in a position like he had implying or saying what he was is detrimental, no matter if he was right or not.

I have a few questions and doubts myself about 9-11, that don't mean I will go to my CC knock on his door and start lecture him about what I think happen. And I won't most definately use my position of rank to lecture younger troops on it either.

And in the military the same goes when it comes to talk about religion, race, politics and othe sensitive issues, you just can't go talking about it, especially if you are in a high ranking position, and I think the same way goes for many civilian corporations too.

Yes we have a right to freedom of speech, but there is a place and a time for everything.

[edit on 24-1-2008 by Bunch]

[edit on 24-1-2008 by Bunch]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:26 AM
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This shouldn't be too surprising to anybody.

Here's an experiment for all of you. When you get to work tomorrow, tell anyone who will listen that your employer is lying to the world and had a part in killing several hundred people to make their bottom line look better. Come back and let us know if you get demoted or fired.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:40 AM
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Like was mentioned above Army Life is Army Life if you haven't been there
you won't understand..

Bad Morale in the Armed Forces gets people killed it only takes one moment of distraction for things to spiral out of control but like I said if you haven't been there you won't understand you will think you do or you can but you won't and quite honestly can't.

I think the Sgt was reprimanded accordingly and not over zealously..


Respectfully
GEO



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:40 AM
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lol, the MILITARY, out of all of us, should be the ones being more careful than anybody. After all, the power of life and death is in their hands. The military is the one who ought to be checking constantly if what they are doing is in line with what the constitution says. They are sworn to uphold it at all times.

When they get so complacent as to not question anymore, and rely solely on what politicians say, they are doing a disservice to their country. They MUST check, and be sure. It was laid out that way on purpose as an additional built in balance of power mechanism.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:07 AM
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Folks, Puke!

This story is complete crap. I would love a chance to go through his personnel record and see the reasons for his demotion. We are not getting the full story on this one.

There is no way that his statements would have lead to a demotion, at least not without other things going on besides this.

Once again people here jump straight to blaming the military without doing any further research. It is almost like (most) folks here don't want to think of the US military in a good way.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by COOL HAND

Once again people here jump straight to blaming the military without doing any further research. It is almost like (most) folks here don't want to think of the US military in a good way.


Not only that, if we take into consideration that roughly 1% of the population serves in the military, that gives you roughly 3 million people out of 300 million that actually knows how the military goes about their business, how we have rules that we have to follow: UCMJ for all military and separate procedures and regulation that each separate branch imposse on their members, that varies from place to place and from command to command.

I can tell you this from my current military experience, it is nothing like civilian life, I joined in my mid 20's, so I have a fairly good experience in the civilian work enviroment prior to join, and the difference is huge.

The biggest thing being that in the military you are on duty 24/7, 365 from the moment you sign in to the day you retire or separate, and in between that time you have to follow those laws and rules, if you don't you screwed. There is some rights that you lose when you join in, look at the UCMJ and you will see.

Its a volunteer force, when you sign you do so out of your free will understanding that you have to follow those rules.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 10:41 AM
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From the article:


In a letter appointing Major Edwin Escobar to lead the investigation, Col. Luke S. Green, chief of staff of the Fifth Army, wrote, “SFC Buswell failed to obey a general order or regulation when he used his Government issued email account to send messages disloyal to the United States [emphasis added] with the intent of engendering disloyalty or disaffection for the United States in a manner that brought discredit upon the United States Army.”


That's a prime example of how the military goes about their business, you do not bring discredit to the force. I don't see a problem with that. And to make it worst he used government resources to that.

More:

Green added that Buswell “allegedly asserts that he has information that proves a conspiracy on the part of the US military industrial complex to attack targets within the United States (e.g., The Pentagon), opinions which he asserts publicly and over Government email systems


I don't know what to say about this, he wasn't questioning 9-11, he was saying that he had evidence that prove that the US Military Industrial Complex to attack targets in the U.S.??! Evidence?!


From my standpoint he got away with a slap on the wrist.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 10:48 AM
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A slap on the wrist? I hope he brings this evidence forward and all these baby killing war mongers get hung.
I don't support the military at all anymore . Defense is one thing and i would gladly give my life for the defense of my country . BUT if this guy is telling the truth anyone trying to suppress it should be drug behind a horse for miles on end.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:13 AM
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Another article about this...Strange it's not being picked up by media, and this guy explains why...

Pay no attention to the soldier saying the government is lying about 911

So anyway, I’m on the Internet this morning and reading [imagine that] an article I saw on the most excellent website, Whatreallyhappened.com that was written by investigative journalist Stephen Webster of the Lone Star Icon, entitled “Under Fire! U.S. Army Intelligence Analyst Targeted For Suggesting New Independent 9/11 Investigation,”[2] and details the story of an Army Sergeant First Class named Donald Buswell, who is being “investigated for using his government email account to send out messages that could be considered “disloyal to the United States.” According to Webster, the military is implying that this Purple Heart recipient “could soon find himself dishonorably discharged, court martialed, or worse.” So what did Buswell write in this email? I’m glad you asked, that implies you aren’t asleep. Buswell wrote the following:

“I say Occums razor is the best way to deduce this ‘day of infamy’; if you weigh all options, do some simple studying you will see 911 was clearly not executed by some arabs in caves with cell phones and 3 day old newspapers! I mean how are Arabs benefiting from pulling off 911? They have more war, more death and dismal conditions, so, how did 911 benefit them? Answer: It didn’t. So, who benefited from 9-11? The answer is sad, but simple; The Military Industial [sic] Complex… It’s not a paranoid conspiracy to think there are conspiracies out there...and, it’s not Liberal Lunacy either, nor is it Conservative Kookiness! People, fellow citizens we’ve been had! We must demand a new independent investigation into 911 and look at all options of that day, and all plausabilities [sic], even the most incredulous theories must be examined.”[3]

No wonder the military is investigating Sergeant First Class Buswell; he said the obvious, i.e. “911 was clearly not executed by some arabs in caves,” and that Arabs never benefited from the attack, something the media and US Government desperately want you to believe. Buswell’s real crime wasn’t so much that he believes the above or even that he used his government email account to say so, his real crime was that he had the nerve to say so out loud, to say the same thing that most patriotic soldiers already believe, the United States government is lying about 9-11!

Sergeant Buswell is definitely a hero and patriot – I wouldn’t worry too much about him being court martialed and/or discharged dishonorably from the Army, primarily because the US government knows he’d make far more money and become far better known on the national 9-11 skeptics circuit than he will if they keep him safely tucked away in some dark corner at some insignificant post in bugtussle nowhere. The military will definitely attempt to get Buswell to do a “Mel Gibson” to prostrate himself and apologize for his statements and to say he really doesn’t believe them. They’ll threaten him in every conceivable way in order to force him to do this, but I doubt they’ll publicize this case any further with a court martial and/or dishonorable discharge. Buswell is a hero after all; he was wounded in combat and is the recipient of a Purple Heart. How would it look if the US government persecuted such a man? It’s been the government and media all along that have foisted the idea on us that Americans that don’t “fully support the soldiers,” by fully supporting the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, aren’t exactly patriotic – how would it look if the military were to court martial a Purple Heart recipient for having an opinion?

Lastly, and what I find most interesting about this case, is that a Google News search conducted this morning, reveals that there is not a single mainstream article out there about the Buswell case, not one, except for one article out of Belgium.[4] Now how do you like that? If Americans want to learn anything further about Sergeant Buswell, they’ll have to read it in a Belgian paper.

For entire article:

curtmaynardsblog.blogspot.com...



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Mindless
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A slap on the wrist?

On the legal aspect, yes a slap on the wrist, he could have been charged with far more believe me.


I hope he brings this evidence forward and all these baby killing war mongers get hung.


I hope he does too, he jus choose the wrong forum to express his views, thats what we discussing here. BTW who is killing babies?


I don't support the military at all anymore . Defense is one thing and i would gladly give my life for the defense of my country


You are well within you rights to do so.


BUT if this guy is telling the truth anyone trying to suppress it should be drug behind a horse for miles on end.


I dont think the military here is trying to supress anything, they are just looking out for the well being and discipline of the force.





[edit on 24-1-2008 by Bunch]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 01:02 PM
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I'm surprised he wasn't suicided..

I mean, come on, the Military doesn't want to be independently investigated.


Someone might actually be held accountable.


Accountable? Whatchu talkin' about? Don't be pointin' no fingers!

They're completely complacent with their homeboys' investigation.
Hell, they even got promotions over at the Pentagon.. duh!
Ignorance marches on!

Ya feel me?



[edit on 1/24/08 by aecreate]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Mindless
reply to post by Bunch
 


A slap on the wrist? I hope he brings this evidence forward and all these baby killing war mongers get hung.
I don't support the military at all anymore . Defense is one thing and i would gladly give my life for the defense of my country . BUT if this guy is telling the truth anyone trying to suppress it should be drug behind a horse for miles on end.



Your quote isn't very peaceful. Its hard for me to think you are credible with comments like that.



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