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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:33 AM by reluctantpawn
reply to post by TenEighty



To get the tannis out soak the acorns repeatedly in fresh water and this will leach it away. If you crush the acorns first the process is faster. Boiling will also quicken the process but will eliminate some of the nutrients. Mixing with the roots of the cattail will help to eliminate some of the bitter taste. Great post by the way you beat me to it. I like fresh caught fish lightly grilled with a little butter, accompanied by either fresh asparagus or once again cattail shoots. Tortillas made from acorns or cattail for a nice bread substitute. For a drink you can a suitable coffe from dandelion and chickory root.

respectfully

reluctantpawn



reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 11:12 AM by reluctantpawn
reply to post by TenEighty



Cattails are one of natures most wonderful things. The leaves can be woven into most anything. Split and pounded they can make a decent twine or rope. New shoots are like asparagus. They can be eaten raw or cooked. The roots make a tasty flour or can be eaten raw or dried. The comb when young can be roasted and eaten like corn on the cob. Pollen can be collected in the spring and mixed in with flour. The flower shafts can make a good arrow shaft when tempered and straightened. The comb when mature can be an excellent source of a downlike insulation. The versatility of this plant is truly amazing. Yes a sock or a bag full of acorns leaching away in a stream is a great idea. I can't help with the book my computer skills aren't that great but I will try to assist if possible.
Another quick recipe:
fresh dandelion leaves covered in a little bit of pork drippings is a country boy feast.
Also the flowers dipped into cornmeal and deepfried are quite tasty.

respectfully

reluctantpawn


reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 12:16 PM by TenEighty
reply to post by reluctantpawn



Reluctant,

Can you post some drawings of the arrow shafts, etc... maybe just an overall view of the cattail plant and point out the uses of each part? I don't know if this is exactly what Amaxium is looking for but i sure would enjoy it!

Gosh, my weekend with acorns was not very succesful. I think it's a little late in the year to be harvesting 'em. A two-hour hunt that hit about 7 or 8 trees yielded a meager 21 nuts. I did learn some things about harvesting tho - First off - it's great fun, like most foraging is i guess. Seriously though, i found with a pretty hard squeeze you can tell whether the little acorn 'worms' have gotten to them yet. Ok, if there's a hole in them, the worm's already left. But if you squeeze really hard, and can feel it give a little, there's a worm in there that has started eating. The good ones are as hard as a rock. Lastly, the trees with fresh deer droppings under them had the best yields.

Amax, what exactly are you looking for on your recipes... straight food, or any products from the wild? Most of my recipes are NOT foraging types although we eat mostly venison in lieu of beef throughout the year... but i would really be interested in downloading the collection!

Thanks,
1080



reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 09:13 AM by reluctantpawn
reply to post by TenEighty



Ten Eighty,
Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I aqm not used to posting pics or addresses. If you go to www.wildmanstevebrill.com/Plants.Folders/Cattails.html you will get some good info.

respectfully

reluctantpawn

[edit on 29-1-2008 by reluctantpawn]


reply posted on 30-1-2008 @ 12:45 PM by TenEighty
reply to post by craig732



Hi Craig,
To bake a proper raised loaf of bread, you need a certain amount of gluten in your flour. It's what makes bread dough "stretchy" and captures the gas bubbles from the yeast. Wheat I believe has the best gluten content of most flours, but its level varies depending on what type of wheat is grown and in what season it's grown.

You can purchase gluten (its usu called 'vital wheat gluten') to mix with non- or low-gluten flours to get a rise from your product. Non-gluten flours can be purchased too, because gluten is the part of wheat that many people are allergic to. Going the other direction, you can form plain gluten into shapes and use it as a bland meat substitute. Like tofu, it can take on whatever flavors you desire. If you don’t want to buy wheat gluten, you can also mix wheat flour in with your non-gluten flour for a similar effect.

HOWEVER! You can make quick breads (like pancakes, muffins, cornbread, etc) without gluten flour – just need baking soda or baking powder. Also you can make flat-breads, like pitas, chapatis, tortillas, etc, etc… without gluten flour or baking soda/powder period.

Here is a partial list of non-wheat flours: Cook's Thesaurus: Non-Wheat Flours
This is a good site with good info also: Bob's Red Mill

To make flour from wheat… you need to be able to grow it, harvest it, thresh it, winnow it, de-bran it (if you want white flour); grind/mill it, and store it. If you are storing whole-grain flour that has been ground/milled, it needs to be kept refrigerated or the natural oils that are released will go rancid. It sounds like this can be very challenging process. I hope to try this year with amaranth. Some grains like quinoa (or acorns as discussed above) have another step (for quinoa: soaking and flushing to remove saponins) added to the process. However I hear that this flush water is good for washing laundry!

You might find this blog post from someone making bread from a home mill interesting (I did!): Home Milling - 2 more tries
Sounds like you can get pretty involved in this! Anybody here have actual experience growing and milling grains?

Thanks,
1080
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