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Topic started on 23-1-2008 @ 06:54 PM by The Vagabond


Do you want to learn a heck of a lot, be challenged intellectually, and recieve boo-koo recognition for how sharp you are (including applause from staff)? Or do you just want to wipe the smile off of our current champion's face? GOOD!

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As described in the thread above, the first debate tournament for 2008 will begin in mid to late february. We can take up to 24 debaters. That's 50% more than usual, so there should be plenty of spots.

Still, preference will be given based on experience. New debaters are on a first come first serve basis for spots not claimed by experienced debaters.

The tournament is seeded based on ranking, which is based largely on experience, so new debaters who wish to participate can benefit from arranging challenge matches now in order to gain ranking.

If you wish to participate, just say so in this thread, and make sure to check both this thread and the debate forum regularly for updates. I strongly recommend that participants add the debate forum to their MyATS display so that they will know when the debate threads are created and when their opponents respond.

Please consider whether or not you have the time to participate before you claim a spot. Debating is stimulating, but also demanding.

Debaters must respond to their opponent's posts within 24 hours. In my experience, a really good debate post takes between 1 and 3 hours to plan, research, and type up, depending on how tough your opponent is. Each round of the debate will require you to make 5 such posts within the space of 7-10 days. There will be 4 or 5 rounds, depending on how many fighters sign up.
That means that if you expect to win the tournament, you will need to devote at least 1 hour every other day for about 2 months. It is however a single elimination tournament, so realistically, most participants will only have to make that commitment for a couple of weeks.

So, if you think you know a heck of a lot, and/or just like to hear yourself talk (or type as the case may be), speak up!



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 07:27 PM by Northern


I am a newer member who has yet to actually post on any of the threads, but I am a huge fan of the debate threads. If there is any room, I would love to be able to debate in this tournament.

Thanks.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 07:31 PM by LDragonFire


If you have any open spots I would love to play!



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 07:33 PM by The Vagabond


Welcome aboard Northern. It's first come first serve among the new members, so it looks like you'll be in.

Who else? Northern isn't afraid, neither should anyone else be.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 07:38 PM by The Vagabond


LDragonFire is in.

New debaters speak up quick- remember that experienced debaters get priority, so the sooner a new fighter speaks up, the more likely he or she is to get a spot.

Also remember that you new debaters can arrange practice matches against eachother. If you lose the match, it doesn't cost you anything, but if you win it, you gain ranking points, which means higher priority for registration and a better seed in the first round.

You can set up your matches in this thread or by U2U, then U2U me to make sure I know, and I'll set it up. We can handle as many challenge matches as you guys want to set up. If you move quick there's even time for some of you to get two debates in.

If you win 2 debates before the tournament starts, you'd have a rank of 4- pretty respectable and a big advantage going into the tournament.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 07:48 PM by MemoryShock


Originally posted by The Vagabond
Or do you just want to wipe the smile off of our current champion's face? GOOD!


No offense semper....as much as I encourage you to smile (anyone for that matter), I've got a scouring pad with your name on it....

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I would also like to second what The Vagabond has stated....new fighters would benefit greatly from a challenge match or two before the tournament. This will not only give you an oppurtunity to work on your initial ranking, but give you a feel for the process as well. My first debate was in a tournament setting and I would have felt alot more comfortable had I done it before....I strongly urge you to set up matches with fellow newcomers.

And remember...this is FUN!!!...as well as extremely educational!!!



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 08:14 PM by The Vagabond


Alright, Memoryshock is in, and offering some very sound help to anyone who needs it. Good going.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 08:33 PM by GAOTU789


If this won't conflict with the Team Debate tourney Vagabond, I'll have a go.

To the new members that sign up, I would STRONGLY recommend a challenge match amongst yourselves for practice. Debating at ATS isn't quite like a normal post(unless your lucky enough to be debating a topic your intimate with) and it does take a a bit of effort. I was very surprised with the degree of diffuculty the first time.(I lost too )

Also, read the old debates. Go back to the older ones and read and read and read. Check out the Head to head Political Debate Forum on Above Politics. You'll get a lot of useful knowledge from those forums.

The debates are some of my favorite posts to read. I feel they are the best forum on ATS, thanks to the work of the mods and the debaters.

Oh and don't be discouraged if you get a topic your not familiar or comfortable with or don't agree with, consider it a chance to broaden your knowledge base.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 08:34 PM by dominusluciferi


while i am fairly new here, i regularly debate in other forums across the net, and would love an opportunity to take part here.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 08:38 PM by The Vagabond


We will make the challenge series and the tournament work around eachother somehow. That reminds me, I've got to give The Borg a nudge.

GAOTU, you're in if you want, and dominusluciferi, so are you, assuming there is space, which i expect there will be.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 11:12 PM by semperfortis


Well I am in of course.....

Have to give everyone a shot at the title....

But be warned, I will not "Go Quietly Into The Night"

I LOVE seeing the new names jumping in, looks like word is getting around...

Semper



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 01:55 AM by The Vagabond


TITLE DEFENSE! YES! Thank god you're not staff. They keep doing that to our champions!

The pressure is on- can the incredible Semperfortis become the second champion to make a repeat?



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 02:05 AM by GUNSINWAR


Count me in man!this sounds to good!!

I think this is a great learning experiance!!

[edit on 18/01/2008 by GUNSINWAR]



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 06:34 AM by GAOTU789


Alright add me to the list Vagabond.

Memoryshock and semper!! Shaping up to be a great tourney all ready.



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 06:40 AM by TLomon


I would be very interested in trying out my debating skills here. Please sign m up.



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 06:47 AM by semperfortis


This is really outstanding!!!!

All of these "Newer" members signing up.... Combined with our "Older" members, this looks to be a historical debate series...

Semper



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 06:59 AM by budski


Count me in as well, please

I'm currently in the process of sorting out a challenge, and I urge anyone who has not taken part before to do the same, and also to look through some other debates.
I particularly recommend semper Vs vagabond - an outstanding debate.



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 07:41 AM by nyk537


Well here we go, it's time to make my full fledged return to the debate forum. I'm already extremely excited based on the level of talent that has already signed up here.

This is going to be a blast!



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 09:26 AM by bodrul


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i might aswell try
it would prob help with my grammer and so on



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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 10:48 AM by MemoryShock


Wecome back nyk537!! And well done to all the new fighters for braving the new frontiers and signing up!!!



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