Keith Laney 'Ferrets" out a Rat on Mars, page 3
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 10:35 AM by musikman


Survey Says! PHOTOSHOP!! Ding! Ding! Ding!


reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 11:05 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by musikman


Survey Says! PHOTOSHOP!! Ding! Ding! Ding!


Really? how could you possibly tell?

Of course it is...that is because it was put together to illustrate the concept of the OP's source.



reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 12:10 PM by lee anoma
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That is supposed to be a rat?

So is this rat a native of Mars or is this a suggestion that the footage was staged from a studio on Earth that has a rodent problem.?

This seems a bit too far for my tastes.

Unless it's a petrified deformed Rat, this is most certainly a rock.

Either way they both make for good pets.

- Lee


reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 12:56 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by DogHead
As for telling me to leave the thread... Why?


LOL Didn't tell ya to leave... merely suggested if you were 'wasting your time' here you might find better uses for it

You also proceed on the assumption that A) you know my reason for posting the Rat and B) that I was unaware of what was on the page that I linked to with the OP

As to your small list of what you consider 'viable' such as the fossils... I have already covered that in the pages on my site and extensively in several threads...

Just how long do you think we should dwell on one anomaly? Its a fickle public out here they bore easily...

In theory a single good anomaly just ONE should be enough proof or evidence... but it doesn't. To you its a fossil to me its the walled rectangle in
AS11-41-6165that has converted more than one skeptic...

So perhaps you have a suggestion on how to get better copies of the images from NASA? And I am sure you must have ideas about presentation that would better suit your needs?

It would seem to me that if you have issues with material and presentation the best solution would be to 'do it yourself' and show us how it should be done... rather than criticize the few who at least try to bring topics to the table. I know you have the resources to do this, heck I bet you could even pay a research team to 'do it right'

And I am sure you have taken time to look over everything on our site and brushed it all off as 'a waste of time' or "BS" Hey no problem its a free country (for a little while longer anyway ) but fortunately for me... there are many who disagree with you And as I do this at my expense and offer it free without condition, I get to pick both style and topics



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 01:04 PM by MrPenny
reply to post by zorgon



Why do you appear to do relatively little discussing of the actual anomalies, and a great deal of skeptic bashing? Who are you actually posting these things for? Just exactly who are you trying to get a reaction out of?


reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 01:24 PM by goosdawg
reply to post by zorgon



Speaking of rodents:

Misconceptions about lemmings go back many centuries. In the 1530s, the geographer Zeigler of Strasbourg proposed the theory that the creatures fell out of the sky during stormy weather (also featured in the folklore of the Inupiat/Yupik at Norton Sound), and then died suddenly when the grass grew in spring. This was refuted by the natural historian Ole Worm, who first published dissections of a lemming, and showed that lemmings are anatomically similar to most other rodents.
Source | Wikipedia | Lemming

Like rats...

While many people believe that lemmings commit mass suicide when they migrate, this is not the case. Driven by strong biological urges, they will migrate in large groups when population density becomes too great. Lemmings can and do swim and may choose to cross a body of water in search of a new habitat. On occasion, and particularly in the case of the Norway lemmings in Scandinavia, large migrating groups will reach a cliff overlooking the ocean. They will stop until the urge to press on causes them to jump off the cliff and start swimming, sometimes to exhaustion and death. Lemmings are also often pushed into the sea as more and more lemmings arrive at the shore.
Source | Wikipedia | Lemming

They fling themselves into the abyss, yielding to the pressure of their like-minded brethren.

The myth of lemming mass suicide is long-standing and has been popularized by a number of factors. In 1955, Carl Barks...
Source | Wikipedia | Lemming

Who is an absolute God to those who know quality illustrated adventure...

...drew an Uncle Scrooge adventure comic with the title: The Lemming with the Locket. This comic, which was inspired by a 1954 National Geographic article, showed massive numbers of lemmings jumping over Norwegian cliffs. The suicide myth was further propagated by Walt Disney documentary White Wilderness in 1958 which includes footage of lemmings migrating and running head-long over a ledge.
Source | Wikipedia | Lemming

Those rotten Disney bastards! And I, as a kid, believed them!

(More evidence of the evil of Disney, can be found here: Evil Disney.)

An investigation in 1983 by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's Brian Vallee, showed that the Disney film makers faked the entire sequence using imported lemmings (bought from Inuit children), a snow covered turntable on which a few dozen lemmings were forced to run, and literally throwing lemmings into the sea to show the alleged suicides.
Source | Wikipedia | Lemming

More evidence can be found here:

Evil Disney | Disney Lemming Myth | Yet Another Warm Fuzzy Disney Tale or How Disney Has Brainwashed You

Snopes.com | Urban Legends Reference Pages | White Wilderness Lemmings Suicide

Alaska Department of Fish & Game | Lemming Suicide Myth | Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

drkarl | Great Moments in Science | Lemmings Suicide Myth

As we can see from the above, lemmings have been used by the PTB to advance the accepted mainstream but ultimately erroneous version of "the way things are."

So, yeah...lemmings...



reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 10:49 PM by DogHead
We have eyes, we should let them see as clearly as possible. Not squint and shade to make stuff up and then get others to share our hallucination.

This thread is about a vexatious hoax. The only question is the purpose of the hoax.

As for not believing in life on Mars, now where would I have ever said such a thing? My personal opinion, based on first hand observation of Mars rocks and other interesting stuff is that yes indeed there is life on Mars. And it has no resemblance at all to this nonsense.

This is obfuscatory persiflage of the first order and it serves no purpose other than to set the more level heads and open minds against each other, to better serve the aims of those with pinhead agendas touting outlandish pseudo science.

As for paying for research on the issue of life on Mars, why on Earth would you assume I never have? It was one of the first major "indulgence" expenses I ever ran up with my first big truckload of cash from an earlier investment.

Hey Zorgon, you specialise in the irrelevant and the obtuse, why not jump over to the threads where Lear himself is being debunked and give us some pretty pictures to go with the discussion there?

As for Learology, that was an as$-kissing convention thread, not a term disparaging the man. How interesting that it has become a disparagement so quickly. Once again we see something quacking like a duck and waddling like a duck. As opposed to a rock and a fraudulent photoshopped animation foisted on the unaware as proof of a nonexistent ecology on Mars.

Tired routine, Zorgon. Tired routine. Get new writers for this season. Seriously.
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