I am Jesse Macbeth, this my response to the world, page 6

reply to post by earthman4

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What your doing now is advertising looking to get picked up by some groupe.

Go back to Saudi............?

I don't know if this member is Jesse MacBeth but just in case he is, I would like him to address some information that surfaced back in 2001 that mentions the name.

Since the member is attempting to come clean, I would like to see some clarification on the following:


Link

Originally posted by JacKatMtn
I know this is a little old but in searching the archives I have found a thread on the old IKON board discussing a member named Elyph from 2001.

The OP (Lorden), posted this:

LINK


"Elyph is for real on what he has been saying. his step father worked for bin laden in 98 on the bombing on the american embassy's elyph real name is jesse adam macbeth he lives in protective custody somewhere he wont tell me where. he is black and arabic his mom is black and his father is from baharain. he is 17 years old and started with his step father to join bin laden in 98 when he was 14 he has hacked into several government systems from the whitehouse to nasa he is very smart and sneaky but i dont get why he would post what he knowon the internet i dont think hr realizes are just doesent care how much danger he is putting himself in.

ask more if you wish "

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the druids shall one day rise again

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Total Posts: 19 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 9:15 pm on Sep. 18, 2001

emphasis: mine

Is this the same Macbeth? Sounds like this prankster was around before the '03 ranger episode?

reply to post by Valhall

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correct me if i am wrong valhall, but are you not a church going christian? if so, could you tell me exactly what your church teaches about forgiving those that repent of their sins? is it different from what jesus actually taught his followers?

this guy (if real) is saying he is sorry for what he did (and he MAY be telling the truth). if you don't believe him them take him up on his offer of investigating his story of what happened to him in boot camp. you're no stranger to investigating things and have earned much respect here for it.

your attitude towards him appears to be more like a westbro baptist than a real 'christian' who are after all supposed to to be all about loving and forgiving and turning the other cheek and do unto others etc etc, or at least that's what i was taught. i wonder, do you class yourself as a patriotic american first or a christian?

here is your (and other ats members) opportunity to prove (or disprove) if this guy was treated abominably by the military. if it's true, do you think it should be exposed or covered up? are you on the side of the truth or not? will you give him a chance to prove his case or not? will you accept he could actually genuinely be sorry for something he did or just judge him forever for his irresponsible past actions?

reply to post by justyc

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Well said mate.

This thread is certainly quite revealing in regards to the level of 'enlightment', you could say, that some of these members are really on...

Simply shocking.

reply to post by Buck Division

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Originally posted by Buck Division
I found the following “Dryken” profile on the “Earth Special Forces” forum, located here. The birthday in that profile is close, but wrong. The location (Washington State) appears to be correct.

Jesse Macbeth’s original “MySpace" page is located here, and the last login date looks like today. (The pseudonym “Jesse Shadowhart” is referenced in the Wikipedia article.)

There is an old "Dryken" profile on ATS, dated August 2005, strangely located here. The profile is tagged "Denied". I wonder what that means?

The posting style on these sites look a bit familiar, hmmm?

Not to me, they don't. The OP was illiterate to the point where it seemed contrived, whereas the links you provided showed some education.

Someone went out of their way to make the OP sound so bleak. Trolling for the sympathy vote, methinks.

Ok,

So I've read through this thread, and don't see Jesse posting any further information. I said I'd withhold judgment until I got all of the facts, so think of this as me forming an opinion that could be changed...

but

WhiteOneActual made some good points here.
reply to post by WhiteOneActual

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I know the military has had a history of racism, which is why I didn't dismiss the post offhand. But, it does beg the question, why did no one help you while you were chained to the post? That's my biggest question. I know some people in the Army and although they're from what I'd consider a more liberal area, I doubt that if any one of them saw such actions they'd let it slide. All it takes is one whistle blower.

Like I said before, your credibility is severely damaged with the masses, and I'm still giving you the benefit of the doubt. But these are some hefty allegations and you haven't done much to back it up yet. And, because of your history you're going to have to work doubly hard to get half the credit.

reply to post by WhiteOneActual

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Good Luck Sir, I like your statement, about what ever you think the governments motives are. There are real young men and women on the ground in Iraq that really want to make a difference and help these people. More people should realize this. And these men and women have nothing to do with the governments motives. These are real heros IMHO

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