I am Jesse Macbeth, this my response to the world, page 11
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:20 AM by Rhain
reply to post by Rasobasi420



I was not attempting to be rude in my post at all. I was just stating facts. If you find this rude then so be it I won't tell you how to think.

As for my spelling mistake, truly sorry for that one.


reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 11:08 AM by dgtempe
reply to post by WhiteOneActual

During the Vietnam war, my boyfriend, now myhusband, had a picture of me taped on the inside of his locker. My husband was asked where i was from (obviously not American) and he told them i was from Cuba. The sargeant heard and pried his locker open and tore down my picture and cut it up into little pieces. If you have the time, can you explain this action to me? My husband wont elaborate on this story, but he did say they all were offended that "he", a Marine, would have a picture of a "Cuban" inside his locker.

I will not comment on the McBeth issue- other than to say it does not sound "impossible" to me, given what was done to my picture. I was 16 years old.

Thank you.

NOTE: This is a question for WhiteOneActual only.





reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 11:33 AM by undo
Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to
post by WhiteOneActual

During the Vietnam war, my boyfriend, now myhusband, had a picture of me taped on the inside of his locker. My husband was asked where i was from (obviously not American) and he told them i was from Cuba. The sargeant heard and pried his locker open and tore down my picture and cut it up into little pieces. If you have the time, can you explain this action to me? My husband wont elaborate on this story, but he did say they all were offended that "he", a Marine, would have a picture of a "Cuban" inside his locker.

I will not comment on the McBeth issue- other than to say it does not sound "impossible" to me, given what was done to my picture. I was 16 years old.

Thank you.

NOTE: This is a question for WhiteOneActual only.



Isolated incidents do happen. Hubby worked with Iraqis in Baghdad. He said they were very nice and hard workers. So not everything is a negative. There are bright spots in the fog of the negativity the news media constantly bombards us with. He told me they were actually very strict with each other, as they have a different work ethic than americans.


reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 11:58 AM by seagull
reply to post by dgtempe




DG. That shouldn't have happened...personally, the SGT. and I would have had a "conversation" about it at a later time. No stripes, no witnesses, just him and me, and maybe a medic...

The differences between then and now are virtually night and day. When recruits are allowed to call time out during basic training, the days of abusive DI's would seem to be over.


reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 01:12 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by dryken1




I don't know if you will ever answer questions for real but I do applaud your admitting the lies. The problem is your new statements in the OP don't ring true and you appear to be pandering to two groups; the anti-American crowd and the Terrorists themselves. A post like you made here could easily show up in a Middle Eastern propaganda rag used to recruit and brainwash new Terrorists and could conceivably lead to innocent peoples deaths. Either you have not considered that or you don't care.

Another consideration is that your OP contains what seems to be lies very much like the lies that brought you to the worlds attention the first time. Same theme as before it would seem. What you are implying is that Muslims in the military are abused in full view which would seem to indicate not only you are yet again lying, but also means you are dead set on supporting Terrorism by Radical Islamists by spreading propaganda beneficial to them.

If you were telling the truth or if anyone in authority believed their was a shred of truth, there would be an ongoing investigation and heads would have rolled by now.

If you were tied to a pole in a visible location in a barracks there is no way it would have not been reported simply due to the fact that many would have seen it. This means not only are you attacking one or two who had authority over you; you are saying pretty much that the entire military is involved. No intelligent person who is not either being intellectually dishonest, mentally ill or flat out lying and in concert with your beliefs is not going to realize you are lying. Your words are not even written in a way to imply emotion. Just what I would expect from a propagandist for a group of sociopathic monsters.

Please do us all the favor of at least attempting to post text that is readable. One could conclude your lack of even trying to be a sign of disrespect for your readers and further proof of your being disingenuous and that you are simply spreading propaganda. You were allowed into the military which means you can read and write at a much higher level than you are exhibiting. You are not illiterate. My writing skills are admittedly pretty bad but at least I try. You should do the same.


[edit on 1/25/2008 by Blaine91555]


reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 08:48 PM by hantavirus
I feel that I must, as well, respond to Mr. McBeth's claims. I am in the Army. I also hold the status of "Conscientious Objector" due to my religious beliefs. I am Buddhist. I was stationed at Fort Benning for a couple years. I must point out a few things that are bothering me about your statements, Mr. McBeth.

First, the shoppettes on Sand Hill sell no medications of any type. They do this to prevent recruits from attempting suicide. The only way to obtain medications is to go on sick call. Even then, you are not given enough medication to harm yourself. I know this because I am also a medic.

Second, I know that many in the military are extremely prejudiced against Muslims. But I find it difficult to fathom that no one in your bay would stand up for you. Someone would have noticed that you were not reporting for formation and they would have found you after you missed your first formation.

I can believe that your Commander sided with the Drill Sergeant. They hear claims every day that the Drills are mistreating soldiers.

While at MACH, did you discuss your concerns with any of the physicians, nurses or medics? If you did it will be in your medical records and someone should have intervened.

I am not disbelieving you entirely. I know for a fact that there are many intolerant individuals in the Army. I only doubt the claims that I mentioned. For what it's worth, I am filled with sorrow that the Army that I have served treated another Soldier, a fellow American, a human being the way you were treated. While you did deserve punishment for the false statements you made there is no justification for what they did. If one of my Soldiers made claims such as yours, I would investigate it fully and discover the truth.

If I may digress for just a moment. I know that I will receive some flak for responding as I have. Some of you will say that as a member of the Military Machine that I will defend it. Make no mistake about this. I am in the Army for one reason and one reason only. To make sure that ANYONE be it Soldier, civilian or someone that we are fighting is ill or injured, I will do everything in my power to help them. If, as has happened, I see someone being mistreated I WILL step in and put a stop to it. So, please, do understand that the Army does have some good souls in it. Some of us are trying to do the right thing.
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