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Outspoken atheist Rob Sherman, who (with his daughter) filed a lawsuit that eventually put a stop to the Mandatory Moment of Silence, was back in the Illinois General Assembly on Wednesday.
He was there arguing Governor Rod Blagojevich’s $1,000,000 grant to the Pilgrim Baptist Church — which was given to them via the more secular Loop Lab School. (Shadiness all around.)
Anyway, he got into an exchange with Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago).
Davis: I don’t know what you have against God, but some of us don’t have much against him. We look forward to him and his blessings. And it’s really a tragedy — it’s tragic — when a person who is engaged in anything related to God, they want to fight. They want to fight prayer in school.
I don’t see you (Sherman) fighting guns in school. You know?
I’m trying to understand the philosophy that you want to spread in the state of Illinois. This is the Land of Lincoln. This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God, where people believe in protecting their children.… What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous, it’s dangerous–
Sherman: What’s dangerous, ma’am?
Davis: It’s dangerous to the progression of this state. And it’s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists! Now you will go to court to fight kids to have the opportunity to be quiet for a minute. But damn if you’ll go to [court] to fight for them to keep guns out of their hands. I am fed up! Get out of that seat!
Sherman: Thank you for sharing your perspective with me, and I’m sure that if this matter does go to court—
Davis: You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.
Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress...
SATAN IS COMETH!!
"It was only the planet Venus that possessed the fivepointed star sign. Not one of the innumerable stars by its orbit form this sign ... LOVE,WISDOM,KNOWLEDGE,POWER,LAW.
"Moreover, the points of the pentagram pointed to five different groups of stars or constellations which were easy to remember; each had a given name ..."
WISDOM = CULTURE,
LAW = RESOLUTION
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Here's just a little pointer in the right direction, my friend.
He disliked most people, but made exceptions for fellow soldiers and prostitutes. His closest companions were dogs; he was nearly always surrounded by a pack of ill-trained hounds and his prized Pomeranian. His vanity led him to buy expensive tailored uniforms, but he seldom bothered to have them cleaned. Some of his contemporaries preferred the smell of the dogs to that of Lee himself.
Lee was badly wounded in the attack on Ticonderoga in 1758, but recovered in time to participate in the campaigns at Niagara and Montreal. He returned to England in 1760 before being assigned to Portugal, where he served under John Burgoyne. Like many career soldiers of the era, Lee sought employment in foreign armies during peacetime. He served twice in the Polish army and hoped to parlay that experience into a lucrative appointment from George III. During a face-to-face meeting with the king, who declined to offer the desired command, Lee rebuked the monarch and swore that he would never give the king an opportunity to break another promise.
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Originally posted by Astyanax
It has been stated many times on this thread that preachers are not welcome. This is Atheist Chat. You may state your opinions about topics under discussion here, contribute to the discussion by all means, but if you preach you will be ignored, and if you hijack the thread by posting off-topic material one or other of us will surely complain.
Originally posted by AshleyDand waved the white flag of peace for us to all take a chance to better understand each other and to address each other with civility.
No problems here.
So what is this thread really about? To bash people of faith but then scream at us once we enter the thread and share our thoughts or debate the issues brought forth? I've been staying out of this little cess pool of a thread and figured it was fair enough for you guys to have your own little corner to discuss atheist issues.
Originally posted by riley
Issues like "people of faith" persecuting atheists.. you know.. things like callling their threads "cess pools". I see nothing has changed here.