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Originally posted by deezee
I spent more than an hour yesturday night and another today, making pictures of a powerfull laser beam, as an experiment, if it is posible for light to block other light from showing through.
Most of us here already know it is impossible, and the other two don't care about the facts anyway, so it would seem i threw my time away.
If anyone is still interested, i can upload the images to image shack (after resizing) and post links.
Otherwise, the crazyness here is starting to get to me and i'm thinking about giving up. I wanted to add some facts to the thread, answering the question if such technology exists, but it looks like that wasn't even close to the real purpose of this thread.
It would seem it's just another "Agree with me or you're ignorant! Facts not welcome!" thread.
Originally posted by OrionStars
We already gathered you disagee it is possible. You have given partial facts and opinion reasons why you think it is impossible. Yet, there are contradictory facts presented by others saying is possible.
Originally posted by OrionStars
At this point, wisdom dictates to agree to disagree.
Originally posted by OrionStars
None of us knows what the DOD and Pentagon have for development in laser, including holography, technology. Until they publicly reveal it, no one, not directly privvy to the development success, will know for certain.
We know it is possible.
Originally posted by OrionStars
Holograms have become highly sophisticated compared to when I was growing up back in the late 40s and early 50s.
Originally posted by OrionStars
I have watched the sophistication as it was researched and developed, plus, put on display. I have long-term known that technology
Originally posted by OrionStars
reply to post by jfj123
Bon appétit:
www.patentstorm.us...
You can access the full text at the link as well. Please do note the use of laser beams and splitting of light waves when they automatically split tto go around physical matter.
I do recall a gentleman saying there were men in one of the twin towers (north tower?), on what may have been the 91st floor, on a week-end doing something in empty office. The gentleman was working on the week-end below that office. He heard banging above.
When he rode the elevator up to that floor, the elevator door was locked and normally was not locked. I am not certain if he said he called security, or attempted to get the mens' attention by banging on the elevator door.
He was not pre-alerted any type of loud maintenance would be going on that particular week-end. He worked on the week-end because he needed the quiet. That may have been the week-end all the security cameras were shut down, which he also found odd.
I recall he stated he took off on 9/11/2001, because he worked the week-end and finished, on whatever it was he was working, on Monday 9/10/2001. That is how he lived to tell it about.
It was in a documentary on one of the A&E network channels.
A substrate may be treated by impinging the substrate with a cryogenic aerosol spray wherein the cryogenic aerosol spray is formed by expanding a pressurized liquid or liquid/gaseous stream of one or more cryogens through a nozzle at a given distance from the substrate into a process chamber with a pressure of about 1.6×10 to the forth power
Originally posted by jfj123
By using the large hadron super collider and firing anti-protons into a heavy deuterium nucleus, you can create what is known as a micro-black hole which lasts approx. .000013 nanoseconds. During this time, all light beyond the event horizon would disappear and would create a black spot. So there's your 1 black pixel. Do this a few billion more times and you can create enough dark spots to generate a dark image against a light sky. Easy as pie.
Originally posted by deezee
Originally posted by OrionStars
We already gathered you disagee it is possible. You have given partial facts and opinion reasons why you think it is impossible. Yet, there are contradictory facts presented by others saying is possible.
I gave oppinions and others gave facts to the opposite?
Well then PLEASE point me to those facts!
You did not read very carefully, did you? Try reading it again without allowing your bias to get in the way of objectivity.
You can add attempting to digest the documentation at the link, to a website, I very recently posted. That is fact not fiction.
Originally posted by OrionStars
reply to post by jfj123
Bon appétit:
www.patentstorm.us...
You can access the full text at the link as well. Please do note the use of laser beams and splitting of light waves when they automatically split tto go around physical matter.
I do recall a gentleman saying there were men in one of the twin towers (north tower?), on what may have been the 91st floor, on a week-end doing something in empty office. The gentleman was working on the week-end below that office. He heard banging above.
When he rode the elevator up to that floor, the elevator door was locked and normally was not locked. I am not certain if he said he called security, or attempted to get the mens' attention by banging on the elevator door.
He was not pre-alerted any type of loud maintenance would be going on that particular week-end. He worked on the week-end because he needed the quiet. That may have been the week-end all the security cameras were shut down, which he also found odd.
I recall he stated he took off on 9/11/2001, because he worked the week-end and finished, on whatever it was he was working, on Monday 9/10/2001. That is how he lived to tell it about.
It was in a documentary on one of the A&E network channels.
Abstract
A substrate may be treated by impinging the substrate with a cryogenic aerosol spray wherein the cryogenic aerosol spray is formed by expanding a pressurized liquid or liquid/gaseous stream of one or more cryogens through a nozzle at a given distance from the substrate into a process chamber with a pressure of about 1.6×104 Pascal or less so as to form at least substantially solid aerosol particles of said one or more cryogens downstream from the nozzle by the cooling resulting from the expansion and/or evaporation to form an at least substantially solid particle containing aerosol. Other References
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John F. Williford, "The Advantages, Disadvantages, and History of CO2 Snow Cleaning", pp. 12-17, Jun. 1998.
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Originally posted by OrionStars
reply to post by jfj123
If you can muster some objectivity in your own reasoning, you should easily be able to figure out what you did wrong, in presenting your counter points of argument.
Originally posted by jfj123
I have no idea what post you are referring to as you are not posting what I said with your responses. If you can take the time to post the quote with your response, maybe I can help, if not, I'm going to have to keep asking what you're talking about.
Originally posted by OrionStars
Originally posted by jfj123
I have no idea what post you are referring to as you are not posting what I said with your responses. If you can take the time to post the quote with your response, maybe I can help, if not, I'm going to have to keep asking what you're talking about.
Is that better? When you countered against the link I presented, you picked out of that website what you preferred from the abstract, and left the rest, which proved nothing for you. You did not have time to read the very lengthy full text, is how I know you conveniently cherry picked from the abstract instead which proved nothing for whatever points you were trying to make. All you projected again was, in your opinion, it is impossible. We got that same impression many pages ago.
Originally posted by Question
reply to post by jfj123
you know jfj, I was actually considering last night spending some time on photoshop and my movie editor doing a short, easilly explainable pictures that explain why a hollogram against a clear background simply doesn't work in the context of 9/11. But then I figured it would be lost on these people supporting this idea and besides, most people with even half a brain can already grasp this simple idea.