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New youtube video- rare footage- Evidence of controlled demolitions?

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posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Retikx
It is NOT falling debris, that is very clear. And you can scream it all you want, but falling debris does NOT look like that.

Absolutely ridiculous. Good try though



falling debris simply does not behave like that, do you really believe what your saying..?? I'm having hard time grasping that line of comprehension.


Well you are saying there is NO other explaination than explosions going off.. I am saying it could be falling debris--I will go further-- It could be reflections as the camera moved off of the aluminum cladding or the windows. I will repeat, there is no sound. Charges going off like that would produce a sound. Find the footage with Audio that backs up your revelation, and I might consider a more nefarious source for the flickering.




posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Retikx
^ Cause you know it would be IMPOSSIBLE to fake such credentials for the purpose of fake evidence and misdirection. The powers that be dont have access to a lamentator and printing apparatus.


Yeah, everybody is in on the cover-up, even the hijackers flight schools, and landlords..you gotta ask yourself eventually-- Where does the conspiracy end, No?



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 02:15 PM
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laminators? printing apparatus? wtf.

Discuss the damn video please. The more I look at this, the more it appears true that there were either charges going off or thermite/mate being used. Just my opinion, which I know means absolutely nothing.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
laminators? printing apparatus? wtf.



That's exactly what I was thinking. Those are in any school, so what does this have to do with anything?



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 02:22 PM
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Note to self: Buy glasses for some people in this thread



Seriously though, the fact that the building didn't collapse right then tells you that those weren't demos going off. I think people want so bad for there to be evidence of government conspiracy that they temporarily ignore logic and critical thinking.

If it was a CD, it was the worse CD job in history. So how did it work? And who did it? It's not like there's a ton of CD companies. So which one did it and why hasn't there been a leak yet?

That no leak part really has to be answered. In Washington you can't pass gas without people and the press knowing. So how did whoever plan and carry out the largest terrorist attack and have everyone stay mum about it? That seems highly improbable.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Note to self: Buy glasses for some people in this thread


Seriously though, the fact that the building didn't collapse right then tells you that those weren't demos going off.


Note to self: stop responding to people who have clearly not done their homework.

The fact that you know nothing about thermite/mate invalidates your very own argument. Next.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Note to self: stop responding to people who have clearly not done their homework.

The fact that you know nothing about thermite/mate invalidates your very own argument. Next.


You figured out I know nothing about thermite based on my post? Wow.

So please enlighten me oh great genie *bows*

Please tell me how thermite explosions - which is weird right? Since thermite isn't explosive - explode in a controlled demolition sequence as claimed in this thread, yet have absolutely no effect. The video last about 16 seconds after the "explosions." I have yet to see any building last longer than 5 second after the charges go off. Luuuucy, you got some 'splain' to do!


Almost forgot

Look, I don't subscribe to either theory yet. I'm on the fence.

phew, what's that smell? Smells like B S


[edit on 22-1-2008 by ThatsJustWeird]



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 04:26 PM
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reply to post by intrepid
 


I supposes i should start framing my sarcastic posts with [ sarcasm ] [ /sarcasm ]



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Look, I don't subscribe to either theory yet. I'm on the fence.

But I do want to make an issue out of something SkepticOverlord said in a recent Overview: that it could be that one of those hijackers may have been an expert pilot, trained covertly. The problem with that is that there were four planes. So that means that under the official story, there would have been at least 4 pilots that were experts at flying these beasts. That is harder to believe. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is more unbelievable, imo.

edit to add: I appologize, and that comment was off topic. Back to the video.

[edit on 22-1-2008 by TrueAmerican]


Wasn't Moussaoui part of a 5th plane as well? One would think they would need a pilot too.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by BrokenVisage
Wasn't Moussaoui part of a 5th plane as well? One would think they would need a pilot too.


Well that may be a good point, but we really need to get back on this video. I am very interested to hear some more opinions on the footage itself, and what it is exactly we are seeing.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:10 PM
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well TrueAmerican...I know many have said bombs went off in the building before...small bombs that look like that in the video.....The video could be faked, could not be, I can't say....I know firefighters have reported small explosions....Those bursts or whatever they are appear to be near the outside..bombs would have to be near support columns or whatever they think are break points....If it was pre-ridged what would be more important is to find out the people who were involved with actually placing those devices..if in fact devices were put in........



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:12 PM
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True American

I do agree with ya that explosions did happen in the towers
but I will have to say that I have known for over 6 weeks
that there have been doctored videos added to the internet
which show charges going off or flashes that were NOT in the
original footage shot by the networks on 9/11. This is about
the 5th or 6th one I have seen. I have the original VHS video
of the network footage shown on 9/11. Those flashes are not
there. Trust me


In other words they were faked to prove a point for
the truthers. But in essence all they did was hurt our
cause.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:19 PM
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They're broken windows falling to the ground.

Nothing new here.

Where's the audio?



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by SimonSays
This is about the 5th or 6th one I have seen. I have the original VHS video
of the network footage shown on 9/11. Those flashes are not
there. Trust me


In other words they were faked to prove a point for
the truthers. But in essence all they did was hurt our
cause.


Of this EXACT clip and angle? Nothing personal, but I'd have to see that to believe it. Be careful picking your clips. Because this one is very new and not seen before. I have not had one single person here yet claim they have seen this EXACT clip before. And when I say before, I mean like before 2007. Anyone else seen this exact clip before (like in 2007 or before) ?

But I hear ya on the fakes, and that's why I am here trying to get opinions on this particular shot.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:28 PM
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You can track the falling debris all the way from the impact location.

I tend to agree this video isn't very helpful to the position that demolition charges were involved. Moreover, every demolition video I have ever seen causes a nearly immediate collapse. This video shows otherwise.


[edit on 22-1-2008 by loam]



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:33 PM
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TA

That video was shown on live TV before a world-wide audience.
If it was there on 9/11, wouldn't it have been noticed long
before now? almost 7 years later ?

It's new because of the added visual effects. The same
program created these flashes in the video that also created
that elaborate Haiti UFO hoax with the great big mothership.
And that was some fine work, by the way. It looked just like
out of a hollywood movie.

But I beg you to seek the original footage of the event and
compare with what you have posted here from youtube.
There is a site on the internet, I have forgotten the url but it has
all the network footage of that day and subsequent days for
about a week's time. Go there and download that footage
and compare the two. The footage is listed by network and date.
You can goole to find it as I don't have the time to go hunting
right now.

But best wishes my friend



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:37 PM
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my apologies to True American
that is NOT network footage
from TV. I stand corrected


But I do believe it has been tampered with
to create the illusion the creator was seeking
just like the other network versions I have seen.

edited for content

[edit on 22-1-2008 by SimonSays]



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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Well it may be network acquisition footage with an inserted time code window for reference, or it could be from an amateur with TC inserted. I just want to know at this point if this is really new, or has it been discussed before. I spent years finding every video I could of 911, and to me this is new. I thought we had it all. I just want to know if this is new and unseen.

And loam, my interest here in this clip really lies in the proposal that thermite/mate could have been creatively packaged and placed to effectively weaken critical key steel beams, prior to other explosives going off (which have been widely reported.) It would tie into and corroborate other evidence in eyewitness accounts of seeing thermite like charges going off in the lobby, from someone who was in the lobby when it happened.

I just want to know if anyone else has seen this exact clip.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 11:54 PM
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here is a video of how they faked that Haiti UFO
using CGI.

Youtube CGI UFO Hoax

If they can do it with UFO's .... putting some flashes onto a building
would be a piece of cake



posted on Jan, 23 2008 @ 12:03 AM
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reply to post by TrueAmerican
 

I am in total agreement with ya on the Thermite/mate
theory as the physical evidence is quite mind boggling
and would hold up in any court of law. However, I don't
think showing some flashes on the side of the building
would prove those flashes to be thermite. And using
doctored footage to prove a theory (in my opinion) is not
the best way to try and prove our thermite theory.

Even if we had solid proof thermite was used, nobody would
listen in the government (at least in this administration). As
the 9/11 commission has been disbanded and it's conclusions
published. So until this president leaves office we are beating a
dead horse with any proof we offer.

However, I don't feel like waiting 30 years for justice like in the
Warren Commission did for JFK files. But at least we will try again
when Bush leaves office. Cuz we all know, even if we spent 3 trillion
dollars on prosecuting somebody from within the administration
and get a conviction. Bush would just pardon them anyway.
So we wait for him to leave and they will be vulnerable when
they lose that executive privilege.


Get my drift



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