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Anyone else noticed increased police presence in their cities?

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posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by SwatMedic

I have no idea what line of work you are in but when your boss tells you to do something do you refuse?


Fortunately, I am my own boss, however when I was working for other people, I would have given the boss the proverbial middlefinger if they wanted me to do something that violated the rights of a "customer".


Cops dont see dime 1 from the tickets they write. No bonus, no time off for tons of tickets. My department gets no increase in budget from ticket revenue.


You must work for the only department in the nation that doesnt benefit from the revenue raised by citations. I live in Las Vegas, but have also lived in Phoenix, Chicago, and a few other small towns, and each of them recieved a portion of the revenue. The courts did as well.

Cops on the other hand have to write tickets. While there arent quotas per se, the more tickets they write, the more it appears like they are "doing their job". This isnt an opinion of mine, it came straight from the mouth of an LVMPD officer who is a good friend of mine.

If a cop hardly wrote any tickets, his superiors would see that as a sign he isnt "enforcing" the law as much as other cops.


If we are told to increase traffic patrols should we just tell the Colonel to go jump off a bridge? If your on a traffic post should you just look the other way when someone goes by doing 20mph over the limit because it will generate revenue for "the man"?


Do you know for a fact those speed limits are actually legal before you write someone a citation for speeding?




posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 06:45 PM
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well I think this purdy much sums it up

Local sheriff runs Normandy style invasion of city
equipped with road blocks, police dogs and
search and seizures and arrests. Martial Law
of the community under the false flag of drug
enforcement. Local NBC TV Station 11 ran the
article on their broadcast so I decided to post
the video for you to look at and comment on.
I wished I knew how to embed a video here
but I don't. I don't think I could anyway cuz it's
from a TV station archive and not youtube
or google. But here's the video anyway.
Be advised I could not get the video to work
in Firefox browser, but it was viewable in Internet
Explorer with latest windows media player installed.
Myabe somebody could capture this video and post
it to youtube or google.

Clayton County GA Police's Normandy Style Invasion



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 07:01 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Nevada primary just happen. They may have increased the amount of police in case of violent protesters. Vegas would be the prime spot.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by xRedlinex
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Nevada primary just happen. They may have increased the amount of police in case of violent protesters. Vegas would be the prime spot.


The NV caucuses were actually pretty quiet. Only a few of the candidates came here and everything went off without any problems.

If they beefed up the cops for that event, it would be time to start dwindling them down. That hasnt happened.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:27 PM
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man if there is no guard posted walk up to the fence and take a picture.....big deal.

it is not like your inside area 51 or something..

If anyone asks if you are a terrorist just tell them you like military vehicles and whoop-dee-doooh your back here with the pics.

[edit on 24-1-2008 by birchtree]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:48 PM
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Please define an illegal speed limit.
When I am told to violate someones rights by my boss then they will get my middle finger as well.

We have cops in our dept who write 300 tickets a year and some that write 3, and that is not an exaggeration. We are never asked to write tickets but we are asked to post radar. Being part of a union body, no chief would dare take disciplinary action against someone who wrote too few tickers.

As far as more cops in NYC, does that surprise anyone? They routinely receive terror threats and they are the most prime target there is.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:49 PM
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Another strange occurrence just happened less than 5 minutes ago.

2 big jets, definitely not F16's , full afterburners on (flames were visible in the night sky) just flew directly over my house. I am not in the flightpath of Nellis, nor could I make out exactly what type of jets they were as it's dark out, but they were low enough I could tell they werent 16's. That has NEVER happened before.

WTF?



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by SwatMedic




Please define an illegal speed limit.
When I am told to violate someones rights by my boss then they will get my middle finger as well.

We have cops in our dept who write 300 tickets a year and some that write 3, and that is not an exaggeration. We are never asked to write tickets but we are asked to post radar. Being part of a union body, no chief would dare take disciplinary action against someone who wrote too few tickers.

As far as more cops in NYC, does that surprise anyone? They routinely receive terror threats and they are the most prime target there is.


Has your dept verified each and every speed limit through Traffic engineering studies done by your states DOT?

Federal law requires traffic control devices to be determined by certain methods, yet not every city does. Any limit posted without a TES to back it up is not only invalid, but illegal as well.

[edit on 24-1-2008 by slackerwire]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by starviego


This is the end result of police training that teaches cops that the citizenry are the enemy



And how much police training have you received? Which academies are teaching this?

More rhetoric to justify your theory of an attack on the public by the police.



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[edit on 24-1-2008 by SwatMedic]

Mod Edit: Fixed Quote box

[edit on 1/25/08 by FredT]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by SwatMedic


And how much police training have you received? Which academies are teaching this?

More rhetoric to justify your theory of an attack on the public by the police.



[edit on 24-1-2008 by SwatMedic]

[edit on 24-1-2008 by SwatMedic]


How about the one academy whose class slogan was "Dont suffer from PTSD, go out and cause it"?



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:59 PM
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Looks like everyone else here must've imported our cops.


Almost zero police presence here. People freely drive like reckless idiots, drug dealers do their business openly on the streets. The only time you see a cop is when they're making a belated response to a traffic crash.

Things will likely change when "a major political event" blows into town later this year, but for now all the federales must be on vacation or something.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 08:59 PM
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Has your dept verified each and every speed limit through Traffic engineering studies done by your states DOT?

Federal law requires traffic control devices to be determined by certain methods, yet not every city does. Any limit posted without a TES to back it up is not only invalid, but illegal as well.


Absolutely, and they are redone on a regular basis.

Traffic counts, accidents, flow rates, all done by DOT. Addition of signs, devices, reductions or increases in limits all handled by them.

Any city/town/state that doesnt just opens themselves up to litigation.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:02 PM
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Las Vegas is sorely lacking in that department. It has worked out well for me though, gotten me out of 3 speeding tickets



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:02 PM
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How about the one academy whose class slogan was "Dont suffer from PTSD, go out and cause it"?

And this was the mandated creedo of that academy or just the rantings of some idiots?

Instead of complaining about it on a message board did you do your civic duty and report it?



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by SwatMedic
How about the one academy whose class slogan was "Dont suffer from PTSD, go out and cause it"?

And this was the mandated creedo of that academy or just the rantings of some idiots?

Instead of complaining about it on a message board did you do your civic duty and report it?


A class of 43 academy graduates decided that was their class motto. 43 future cops. Exactly the kind of people we want out policing others right?

The original AP source article is now gone, however I copied the entire article to one of my blogs. If youd like to read it, click here



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:07 PM
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Las Vegas is sorely lacking in that department. It has worked out well for me though, gotten me out of 3 speeding tickets

Dont the casinos kick in a HUGE amount of tax dollars to the state of Nevada? What the hell are they doing with their money?

With those cash cows pumping in the dollars, there is no reason their DOT is slacking.

As far as getting out of those tickets, more power to ya. If they dont do it right, then they dont get to collect!



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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A class of 43 academy graduates decided that was their class motto. 43 future cops. Exactly the kind of people we want out policing others right?

The original AP source article is now gone, however I copied the entire article to one of my blogs. If youd like to read it, click here


Ok, that is just sick. They allowed them to graduate? Friggin idiots.

Idiots like that are the ones that give the rest of us such a bad name and bad reputation.

I hope you do realize that something like that is an exception and from what I read it was instituted by some former military guy who must have some issues.

Ive been through 1 academy, SWAT training, Tactical Medical training and NEVER has anything like that ever been talked about. Its a disgrace.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by SwatMedic

Dont the casinos kick in a HUGE amount of tax dollars to the state of Nevada? What the hell are they doing with their money?

With those cash cows pumping in the dollars, there is no reason their DOT is slacking.

As far as getting out of those tickets, more power to ya. If they dont do it right, then they dont get to collect!


While the casinos do contribute, they are only taxed at a rate of 6.75%, which is basically a gift to them. The governor is now cutting the budgets of other departments, and the government employees and especially those in education are now whining that the casinos arent being taxed enough. One educrat suggested raising the casino tax rate from 6.75 to 20%.

Those are the kinds of retards we have working in government here.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:18 PM
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Thank God I live in Mayberry and only see Barney writing a jaywalking ticket from time to time, that is when he isn't sleeping.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by kyred
Thank God I live in Mayberry and only see Barney writing a jaywalking ticket from time to time, that is when he isn't sleeping.

I hear ya
I live in small town also, 2700
but Barney and Mayberry always brings to mind that episode:

"Citizens arrest!! Citizens arrest !!!!" ..... ROFLMAO

I loved that show and bought the DVD collection of about 12 episodes
which that quote above is included in it.



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