posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 02:36 PM
Originally posted by twitchy
Again, who gives you guys the clout to put a cornerstone or anything under a public building? It's a relevant question as this monument was probably
erected with the usual pomp and circumstance. I know that private institutions often ask Freemasons to consecrate a building, but who the gives you
guys the kind of clout it would take to do so to a public structure?
Simple. We are ASKED to do so. We do not show up and force ourselves upon public officials insisting that we lay a cornerstone. It's a very old
tradition (read S. Brent Morris' book on the subject: "Cornerstones of Freedom.") By the way, at one time the Odd Fellows Lodge (a non-Masonic
Order) ALSO laid cornerstones!
If there is no hierarchy in freemasonry,
Who says there's no hierarchy? Of course there is. The Grand Lodge (presided over by The Grand Master and Grand Officers of any given Grand
Jurisdiction are the presiding officers).
The Master of the local Lodge is the presiding officer, and it's no democracy. He is MASTER of the Lodge.
BUT, even though the Grand Master is the "boss" (let's say) in his jurisdiction, he is not a "higher degree" Mason than ANY Master Mason.
Can we get back to the Obelisk, who placed it there and why they chose an obelisk, any ceremony that might have been performed in it's erection, and
why you guys seem to think Obelisks aren't masonic all of a sudden?
To be honest, I've never given the Obelisk any consideration as it's not a Masonic "emblem" per se. I'm not saying obelisks haven't been
erected by Masons, but there is NO degree that I am aware of that says "The emblems of this degree are the trowel, the oblong square, the obelisk"
etc. Interestingly, Gould's "Guide to the Royal Arch Chapter" shows an obelisk with Masonic emblems carved into it.
Mackey's "Encyclopedia of Freemasonry" describes the obelisk, gives a bit of history and says "In continental Masonry the monument in the
Master's Degree is often made in the form of an obelisk with the letter M.B. inscribed upon it."
It goes on to say "this form is appropriate, because in Masonic, as in Christian, iconography the obelisk is a symbol of the resurrection."
But again, there is never any explanation of the obelisk in Masonic usage. Not any that I've seen anyway. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.