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Topic started on 21-1-2008 @ 12:11 PM by Infra_red

I ran across this on one of my favorite video sites and was wondering what you guys make of it. It clearly shows how the public was tricked into thinking that NASA actually went to the moon.

Leaked Moon Landing Video - FileCabi.net

Is this why we have never been back?

reply posted on 21-1-2008 @ 12:32 PM by Foxe

EDIT: lokishammer.dragon-rider.org...

lokishammer.dragon-rider.org... <- That link right there explains what this is. The video is indeed of Earth at a distance. The video posted up is the result of inaccurate research and bending. Half the time they say the astronauts talk and then the narrator talks over them.

This rots and smells. Sorry. Your video proves nothing.

Also a note: Opening a camera Iris up, the window would indeed shine at a distance from Earth. Considering how cloudy earth is...reflective light. Closed Iris may have been done to counter that and get a good image. I know I've done similar when it comes to dark rooms, with windows, etc.

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reply posted on 21-1-2008 @ 12:57 PM by webstra

It's funny...i was thinking of the video about Armstrong and his emotional speech. And there it came. It's not the first time thinks like that happen to me

I'm very disappointed in Neil Amstrong....and the USA.

Ther's only one way for Neil to give him some credits again....and that is telling the truth.

By the way...this is an already known video for lot's of years.

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reply posted on 21-1-2008 @ 01:17 PM by webstra

Originally posted by Foxe
EDIT: lokishammer.dragon-rider.org...

lokishammer.dragon-rider.org... <- That link right there explains what this is. The video is indeed of Earth at a distance. The video posted up is the result of inaccurate research and bending. Half the time they say the astronauts talk and then the narrator talks over them.

This rots and smells. Sorry. Your video proves nothing.

Also a note: Opening a camera Iris up, the window would indeed shine at a distance from Earth. Considering how cloudy earth is...reflective light. Closed Iris may have been done to counter that and get a good image. I know I've done similar when it comes to dark rooms, with windows, etc.

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Do you know what i think ? I think the debunkers try to wave away

all the claims by one clear answer....

For example : the shaddows doesn't have to point to the same direction because of different hights......yeah right......WTC7 came down by itself.

reply posted on 21-1-2008 @ 01:40 PM by Foxe

I'm a Multimedia Specialist. I work with Cameras. Its part of my life along with programs that go hand in hand. I understand what is going on here.

If you had saw my original post, I had agreed with the poster, but changed my mind after studying it more then googled about it.

Its different when people say things about shadows and such on exploding buildings or what not...when comparing it to known, working mechanics that people can learn and specialize in.

reply posted on 21-1-2008 @ 02:08 PM by webstra

Originally posted by Foxe
I'm a Multimedia Specialist. I work with Cameras. Its part of my life along with programs that go hand in hand. I understand what is going on here.

Okay.....congratualations with your job....nice to know you have a lot of convidence in what you think to know about your work.

Originally posted by Foxe
If you had saw my original post, I had agreed with the poster, but changed my mind after studying it more then googled about it.

Does not match with your first claim....

reply posted on 22-1-2008 @ 05:57 PM by Soylent Green Is People

reply to post by Infra_red

Here's a post by ATS member jra from about a year or so ago about this subject. This should put this to bed.

In this post is a still taken from the video of what the video producers claim is only a portion of the Earth taken through a window while the astronauts are in low Earth Orbit (LOE). This image of the Earth is in the video from 8:35 to 8:39.

There is also a second photograph taken with a still camera at about the same time the video was taken. This second photo VERY CLEARLY shows the whole Earth, its continents and the exact same cloud formations seen on the video still. One could easily make out entire continents -- which is something you could not do from LOE. There's no way that film was made in LOE.

That one photo alone debunks this film.

Here's the link:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply posted on 22-1-2008 @ 07:52 PM by apc

The only thing interesting in this video is the look on the controller's face at about 2:40 after taking a drag of his cigarette.

Me no thinks that's tobacco!

reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 12:28 AM by HannahSolo

reply to post by Infra_red

That is from the film "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon"... If you've not seen the whole thing, you really should. It has some very interesting arguements worth watching. It definitely left me wondering.

reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 05:25 PM by webstra

You know, i think the way the debunkers try to debunk the moonconspiracy is just pathetic.

For example the way how idiots we are, because there is a mirror on the moon so there must have been people there......yea.

[I have seen this (low iq) example in 2 documentaries....on mainstream]

reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 05:35 PM by ItsHumanNature

The same trolls go around and do nothing but"debunk" i.e. spout nonsense and try to discourage people from accepting or even considering ideas other than those which are crammed down our throats by the Main Stream Media and the Powers That Be- I started this thread a while back and you could hear the yowls immediately. I quickly learned their game- they bait you with insults- trying to get you to respond- then when you do, they immediatley complain to the Moderater and try to get you banned....
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 07:25 AM by sovietman

Hey guys, are you serious when you think Americans didn't land on Moon???

Ok it's true that automatic probes can set mirrors. But it was the height of the Cold war!!!!!!! Do you really think Soviet spies wouldn't find this out?? I understand you: it's a tremendous achievement, but they really LANDED.

Look, almost everything in space race did the Soviets first. U.S. government just had to do something. And first land on Moon was excellent idea.

Oh, and Soviets had their own Moon program too. Was it also just a fake, or they were "stupid" enough to take it serious and biuld real rockets??

You are making conspiracy theories all the time, but not even one was ever proven!!

reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 07:40 AM by ZX 81

I gotta agree with Sovietman, if America never went to the moon, the USSR would have blown the story and humiliated the USA. You gotta remember this was only 7 years after the Cuban missile crisis, the Soviet Union would have done anything to make the Americans look fools.

I do agree the footage has some questionable moments and as such where I do believe that America landed on the moon. Due to camera malfunction or another problem , they may have had to fake the footage.

for those who didn't live thru it, try reading about the Cold War, it was a scary time to be alive. I'm in my thirties now, but even I did a few duck and cover drills when I was in junior school.

so to recap - Man on the moon... YES
Live footage from the moon... probably not.

and remember folks, everyone's entitled to their opinion. And until proof is shown to me that the landings were a fake, these are mine. I leave you now to make up your own...

Peace

reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 07:51 AM by sovietman

I think that recordings are also real. It was repeated and analysed by Soviets so many times. If a group composed (mostly) of non-experts, like you here, "can" find so many mistakes, why Soviet experts couldn't?? Reconcile yourself with the fact that they made it!!!

reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 01:39 AM by newagent89

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Oh, but the soviets were in on the super-double-secret conspiracy with the Illuminati Jews from the Center of the Earth. We went to the moon, We totally went there and that's a fact. I live in the city full of the descendents of scientists that worked their tails off to get us there. Silly documents and pictures of edited pictures aren't disproving any of the hard science and physics that came out of the rocket program. Van Allen belt: we survived it. The astronauts were examined for rad. and bio. sickness and quarantined though and the trailers that they were put in for several weeks were later scattered throughout Alabama and other southern states after they were used. Don't get me started on the flag "waving in the breeze on the set". Honestly, people go from instance to instance of images of things they don't understand and think that one thing they don't understand allows them to jump to conclusions that something that did happen, in fact, did not happen at all.
Haha, everything's a conspiracy for some people. Honestly, if half of this garbage was true, people's heads would be exploding left and right from the sheer silliness. Honestly, its like their bored with living and thus make conspiracies so they can feel like Neo, when in reality it's all just baloney and hogwash that fuels these crack theories. No, I am not going to answer retort posts because people will nitpick and though anyone could respond to nitpicking, it isn't conducive to sound argument or treatment for the terminally conspiracy-obsessed. I am on these forums for the concepts of the future and what may come to pass, not deliberation and insulting the work of brave men and women, some good, some bad. Stop kidding yourselves that oblivion is our soon to be destiny. That just isn't how things are and is improbable garbage.

reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 07:09 PM by TeslaandLyne

Yeah thats been around.
I call it "Halfway to Liarville".
Until the money ran out.

I can't recall what curtailed the Moon flights, perhaps the Nam war.
All from the same group that buffaloed Truman.
So Russia had the astronauts when astronauts were real.

Sounds like the speech at the end is preparing young astronauts
to keep it all real like Disney taught everyone on ABC in the 50s.

Later to find out cartooning is more of a reality.

Strangely similar to Eisenhower's Farewell Speech.
That didn't help JFK who fell for the Moon mission.
So JFK had to go as Texas got space money.

The Illuminati learned and never told Bush about 9/11/01
and Osama's plans.

reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 07:35 PM by goose

Yep the soviets were way ahead of us and everyone knew it, they were too far ahead of us at the time for us to play catch up that quickly and put a man on the moon, that is why we had to fake it.

We had to save face and come up this faked moon landing, as long as we could convince the world we did it, it really didn't matter whether we had or not. It's not like anyone, anywhere, ever listened to the Soviets or if they did they certainly did not believe them over the USA anyway.

The soviets would have been viewed as fools and would have been the laughing stock of the world, had they challenged us. The world was convinced we had been to the moon.

Doesn't anyone realize our computer technology back then was barely above that of a calculator? LOL

The photo could have been taken by a satellite, heck we probably got that from the Russians, sputnik probably took it.

BTW how did our astronauts survive the Van Allen belt?

reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 07:56 PM by mapsurfer_

Well, I tell ya, I tend to believe the evidence of the Lunar Surface Journal and the overwhelming scientific data over some weak conspiracy theory. As with any NASA mission there are thousands of people employed as contractors anyone could step forward any disclose any foul play. I do not see that happening. To the contrary, there is evidence that these people are debunking the hoax theory. Take a look at this information concerning communication and telemetry. In addition, would NASA really have faked 6 missions to the moon?? It wasn't just a single trip. Then went back 5 more times.

Furthermore, in the next couple of month NASA is launching LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter) which has as part of it mission objective... to photograph all six lunar landing sites, as well as debris left (rover, LM launch platform, etc) left behind during these missions. Now if NASA had faked the lunar mission, then why would they send reconnaissance? You think they would expose themselves? The hoax theory simply does not make any sense to me.

It was approx 10yrs from the time the soviets launched sputnik til the US launched Apollo. In that time, there was major developments in ballistic missile technology during the cold war. Do you think that the Soviet had the ability to track missile trajectory?? They would have certainly called our bluff if this had been low earth orbit trickery. Think about it.

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reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:10 PM by scotty18

It's always funny how these huge conspiracies with hundreds if not thousands of people involved never come to light, but if a member of Congress has an affair and they are the only ones who know someone figures it out.

reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:16 PM by mapsurfer_

Concerning this bit about the Van Allen Belt..

The Van Allen radiation belts extend from about 600 miles up to more than 40,000 miles from Earth with the region of highest radiation intensity being between around 2,000 miles and 12,000 miles above Earth. The astronauts exposure to those radiation belts is brief (less than 4 hours total - they begin their time in this region while traveling at 25,000 MPH! And they pass through it twice, once outbound, and again on their return. They spend less than an hour in the densest part of the belt.) and they are well protected in their spacecraft. Here is a link to a webpage that describes the radiation environment and physiological effects on the Apollo astronauts.

Also, the belt is toroidal in shape (like a donut) and the trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft were designed to avoid the worst part of the Van Allen belts. Even the discoverer of the Van Allen belts, Professor James A. Van Allen, has noted that the belts would not have been dangerous to the Apollo astronauts given their trajectories and their spacecraft.