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Topic started on 21-1-2008 @ 04:19 AM by RedGolem
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In Stanly North Dakota, it was just reported on television news that it is estimated there is two hundred billion barrels of oil, which is started to
be taped. It was also said that is more oil then is in anwar region of Alaska.
Any more info on this?
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reply posted on 22-1-2008 @ 10:24 AM by Animal
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I was under the impression that there was no conclusive evidence on how much oil was in ANWAR. Both sides of the argument were stalling doing the
research fearing it would empower their adversaries.
I would not be surprised in the least to discover that the US had a HUGE untapped, or stored supply of oil. Based on the way our government likes to
operate it would seem logical that we would seek to use up all the oil outside of the US before we began to deplete our untaped or stored resources.
Still I do not have any information in my head in regards to oil in the Dakotas.
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 03:27 PM by steve99
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Originally posted by RedGolem
In Stanly North Dakota, it was just reported on television news that it is estimated there is two hundred billion barrels of oil, which is started to
be taped. It was also said that is more oil then is in anwar region of Alaska.
Any more info on this?
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It dosen't matter the Democrats and the enviromentalists won't let anyone drill for US oil. They would rather have people have to choose oil over
food in the witer. But they allow China steal our oil as it drills off the coast of Cuba.
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 03:47 PM by jpm1602
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The canada geese and triple striped yellow billed crows live there. Are you kidding? Peta will go nuclear on you if you disturb any nests. Billions,
perhaps trillions spent on retaining and maintaining petroleum rights and strores. We could be plugging all our vehicles in tomorrow if it wasn't
for high interest stakes.
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 03:50 PM by whaaa
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Originally posted by steve99
It doesn't matter the Democrats and the enviromentalists won't let anyone drill for US oil. They would rather have people have to choose oil over
food in the witer. But they allow China steal our oil as it drills off the coast of Cuba. 
Don't get out much do you steve99?
I see more exploratory rigs north of my house than I have seen in decades.
Go to Kansas....See any rigs? How about over the Permian Basin... see any rigs?
And wouldn't the oil off the coast of Cuba belong to the Cubans?
Nice dig at the Dembs and enviromentalist[sic] though even if uninformed.
The oil company's are all hireing roughnecks in the four corners area as we speak and from what I understand the only idle rigs are the one's that
are broken down. Actually there is a new drilling boom taking place, and why not with $100 brrl oil. My tax rebate check is going into oil co.
stock.
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 04:22 PM by NewWorldOver
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And yet, we are still, for some reason, dependent on foreign oil?
Fricken SAD.
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 05:06 PM by surfinguru
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Isn't most of that oil "shale" oil requiring alot of overhead to gleen the usable commodity? I guess it's starting to become economical since the
price per barrel is close to $100.
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 06:37 PM by steve99
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Originally posted by whaaa
Originally posted by steve99
It doesn't matter the Democrats and the enviromentalists won't let anyone drill for US oil. They would rather have people have to choose oil over
food in the witer. But they allow China steal our oil as it drills off the coast of Cuba. 
Don't get out much do you steve99?
I see more exploratory rigs north of my house than I have seen in decades.
Go to Kansas....See any rigs? How about over the Permian Basin... see any rigs?
And wouldn't the oil off the coast of Cuba belong to the Cubans?
Nice dig at the Dembs and enviromentalist[sic] though even if uninformed.
The oil company's are all hireing roughnecks in the four corners area as we speak and from what I understand the only idle rigs are the one's that
are broken down. Actually there is a new drilling boom taking place, and why not with $100 brrl oil. My tax rebate check is going into oil co.
stock.
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We are not allowed to drill off the coast of Florida, but yet the Chinese seem to be doing it. And don't they have the technology now to drill at an
angle.
Also it seems that every time they vote on drilling in some area of this country it is voted down by the Dems. Alaska is one place. They seem to also
vote down alternate types of producing energy. Ted Kennedy seems to think wind powered generators would work fine except in his back yard. He just
voted them down of cape cod.
And as for the environuts, we can't drill in certain areas we can't build nuke plants we seem to run into a brick wall when they become involved.
And you don't seem to get out much either, you seem to spend an awful lot of time on this site. No girlfriend huh.
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 07:09 PM by whaaa
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Originally posted by steve99
And you don't seem to get out much either, you seem to spend an awful lot of time on this site. No girlfriend huh.
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Are you monitoring my internet usage? Actually I am selfemployed, almost use the internet exclusively for my marketing stratagy and have been married
3 times and now have a beautiful live in girlfriend. I play in a bluesband on weekends and sometimes work as an extra/standin in the movies; so I do
get out a fair amount. But thanks for caring! envious?
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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:31 PM by steve99
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Originally posted by whaaa
Originally posted by steve99
And you don't seem to get out much either, you seem to spend an awful lot of time on this site. No girlfriend huh.
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Are you monitoring my internet usage? Actually I am selfemployed, almost use the internet exclusively for my marketing stratagy and have been married
3 times and now have a beautiful live in girlfriend. I play in a bluesband on weekends and sometimes work as an extra/standin in the movies; so I do
get out a fair amount. But thanks for caring! envious?
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Not at all. I unfortunatly have too much time on my hands, but do not visit this site to often, I find the people here to be a little to fake for my
taste. I to also work in the movies, I am between jobs right now and usually only work a few months out of the year. The rest of the time I work on
the large collection of classic cars I have.
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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 06:24 PM by RedGolem
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Originally posted by surfinguru
Isn't most of that oil "shale" oil requiring alot of overhead to gleen the usable commodity? I guess it's starting to become economical since the
price per barrel is close to $100.

No this oil is supposed to be that, just oil.
The oil shale is in other parts of the mid west. And yes I have been expecting to see that developed for some time and has not happened just yet.
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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 06:27 PM by RedGolem
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Originally posted by steve99
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Not at all. I unfortunatly have too much time on my hands, but do not visit this site to often, I find the people here to be a little to fake for my
taste. I to also work in the movies, I am between jobs right now and usually only work a few months out of the year. The rest of the time I work on
the large collection of classic cars I have. 
Well you have me envious of both of you. Live in girl friend, working a few months out of the year, and working on a collection of classic cars.
Here I am a mechanic working forty hours a week and is concerned about just being able to pay taxes.
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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 07:13 PM by Kr0n0s
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There is a lot of shale oil in the Colorado and Dakota areas, i should know I used to own some stock in a company that refines shale and sands oil but
he collection and the refining of these type of oils is very expensive.
Those stocks tanked btw
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 01:19 PM by starskipper
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Originally posted by jpm1602
Are you kidding? Peta will go nuclear on you if you disturb any nests. 
Although there is good size groups of animal and environmental watchdogs in North Dakota, it has been my experience that the majority of people are
practical when it comes to oil drilling or coal mining in regards to the money it generates.
With all do respect to these groups, they are trying to save wetlands and other habitat and the mine reclamation projects appear at face value to be
productive.
Ron Ness (the president of the North Dakota Petroleum council) says that ND produces about 129000 barrels a day. I haven’t heard of a billions of
barrels stashed away but will continue to look to see if I can find more information.
I haven’t been able to get an exact number on the number of oil wells in ND. Oil mining in ND has been going for well over 50 years and has had
both its ups and downs. Millions of dollars are being spent on research and well drilling right now and jobs are plentiful and seem to pay well.
seattletimes.nwsource.com...
minnesota.publicradio.org...
www.jobsnd.com...
www.willistonnd.com...
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 02:17 PM by Yknot
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Originally posted by Animal
I would not be surprised in the least to discover that the US had a HUGE untapped, or stored supply of oil. Based on the way our government likes to
operate it would seem logical that we would seek to use up all the oil outside of the US before we began to deplete our untaped or stored resources.

You just hit the nail on the head! At this time in history, OIL (and CREDIT) are the two major pillars of power in the world. Those that control
either or both CONTROL THIS WORLD. This is why Big Oil was allowed to place (and keep) it's people in the White House in 2000. Control of Arab oil
was also the main reason Sept.11 happened (and was allowed to), the end result being an American "Oil Police " presence thruought the middle east
to this day. Certain Saudi's wanted to remove the Royal Family from power because thy were playing ball with the Americans, and selling their
remaining 20 years reserve of crude at the bargain price of eighteen dollars a barrel, causing the country to start borrowing money from the World
Banks to stay afloat! All this while the American oil interests sat on their knownn, (and unannounced)
reserves. Even (retired) Fed Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan was recently quoted as saying ,"EVERYONE knows the WAR (in Iraq) is over (about) oil".
If anyone should know, Don't you think HE WOULD?
What gets me is that there are people who still refuse to believe their elected(?) leaders from 2000 (all having BIG OIL backgrounds) would lie to
them and mislead them IN ANY WAY, when, in spite of the media's control over this country there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE to the contrary... What will it
take for these folk to swallow their pride, admit they have been taken in and help change the direction that this country's been going? For example,
why can't there be a Federal Green energy tax credit for going solar, wind powered ect. like California's been doing? Alternative energy sources
were supposed to be viable when oil reached 50 bucks a barrel, we're WAY past that now. I would luv going off the grid and saving hundreds of dollars
each month, (even after paying for the systems), like they're doing on the left coast. But there is a reason this isn't even DISCUSSED by our
present leadership; they just throw out a "free money $1200 once a lifetime (or every 8 years) BONE out and laugh at how quickly desperate sheeple
accept it in lieu of REAL SOLUTIONS.
It's all about POWER and GREED people, for the FEW. BUT as this power must be WILLINGY GIVEN to the few by the many, it can also be TAKEN AWAY and
placed in the hands of others duly elected BY THE PEOPLE, not chosen by the FEW. Please perform your duty as citizens of this country and VOTE THIS
YEAR, if your'e tired of this mess.
btw Sorry 'bout the rant.......
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 02:52 PM by Yknot
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Originally posted by RedGolem
Originally posted by surfinguru
Isn't most of that oil "shale" oil requiring alot of overhead to gleen the usable commodity? I guess it's starting to become economical since the
price per barrel is close to $100.

No this oil is supposed to be that, just oil.
The oil shale is in other parts of the mid west. And yes I have been expecting to see that developed for some time and has not happened just yet.

Oil shale was viable (and produced) in the 70s and early 80s when oil reacehed $30.00 a barrel.
There has been plenty of oil discovered in the Northern hemisphere since then, just not a lot of production until this decade late 2001 when prices
were allowed to rise to keep the cap on internal Saudi discontent that had led to the Sept. 11. attack. That was part of the 3rd Saudi coup attempt
you never heard about.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 06:42 PM by RedGolem
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That is a theory I had not heard before.
Could you post a refrence?
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 06:44 PM by Beachcoma
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Linking to this thread:
Lakota Indians Withdraw Treaties Signed With U.S.
There's some info in that thread that makes a connection to the oil $hale.
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reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 01:34 PM by starskipper
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I found alocal story this morning that has some figures. This year could beat the record for new well permits. The record was 1098 permits way back
in 1981.
bismarcktribune.com...
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reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 01:44 PM by buddhasystem
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Originally posted by steve99
But they allow China steal our oil as it drills off the coast of Cuba. 
I detect a non sequitur here... Oil off Cuba... "Our" oil... where's the logic?
Is Cuba "ours"?
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