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Originally posted by Yessy
Stop..... writing.....useless..... dots..... like..... this....
Originally posted by ntech
Originally posted by andre18
Without giving it a whole lot of thought Christians will frequently say all those who don’t accept Jesus deserve to go to hell, they don’t deserve salvation, they deserve to be tortured forever.
Well, the Bible doesn't actually say that. Revelation says this.
20-12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
It's said that the dead would be judged by their works. But by going this route it apparently has a high standard. Higher than being redeemed through grace.
Being saved through grace appears to remove the uncertanity about how you would wind up. But even then it is mentioned that good works are required of the faithful as well.
James chap 2 is all about that subject. But summerized in 2-26.
2-26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Though one last detail here. A human soul is not immortal. It can be destroyed.
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Those unfortunates who don't make it through the white throne judgement won't last long in the lake of fire. They will simply cease to exist.
Originally posted by WorldShadow
I see christians as the ones being tortured by there faith and beleifs. As for atheist and none believers, they seem to be quite happy and content getting on with there lives.
Originally posted by WraothAscendant
Originally posted by WorldShadow
I see christians as the ones being tortured by there faith and beliefs. As for atheist and none believers, they seem to be quite happy and content getting on with there lives.
Ah. Happy and content you say? Then whats with the whole bitching about religion CONSTANTLY, you know your own anthems so I won't bother typing them back atcha.
You people forget the first rule of a fanatic. You obcess about the enemy you BECOME the enemy.,
Your belief system's desperation to convert the world is painfully obvious atheism.
Problem is, converting the world to one belief system is pretty impossible without wiping out a LARGE number of people. Even then, you will have divergence in later generations.
But I digress sorry OP.
[edit on 21-1-2008 by WraothAscendant]
Originally posted by andre18Do you see god as your father, “our heavenly father” if so…..then god must be masculine and in which case….god has masculine features….including a dick