Originally posted by andre18
Without giving it a whole lot of thought Christians will frequently say all those who don’t accept Jesus deserve to go to hell, they don’t deserve salvation, they deserve to be tortured forever.
...sorry for not reading through the thread but I'm sure it was a tired debate about Hell and evil religion and such.
1) I'm a Christian, spent my life around them. They don't say if you don't accept Jesus you "deserve" to go to hell.
2) what they do say is however not much of an improvement. they say;
a) it is not up to them but God, he is the ulitimate judge.
b) because of that you need to read..blah, blah, in the Bible, that says oh, yee, of unworthy stock and seed, if you don't..blah, blah, then you will burn in torment with the fallen twisted corpse of sin and...blah, blah.
c) they take no responsibility for your beliefs or their own. they have no problem accepting God as a punishing human like King who is Just in all he does so sending people to Hell is his Just perogative.
3) or you get the crowd that martyr themselves when they say it is a Christian's responsibility to "show you the light" and it is their fault for not being an effective missionary or disciple...but of course God will forgive them since they are making this great effort to save your soul.
...As for you, you should stop seeking out the "fringe" Christian's because the majority of us don't think like that.
...If in fact Hell was a "physical" place then you would have as much to fear of it as these fringe Christian's. Because, when a so called Christian misrepresents the message of Christ and it cause you and many others like you to reject (and rightly so) the hypocrisy and the complete lack of sane reasoning, then they are turning you away from him, I could pull out scripture after scripture to throw in their faces about how they themselves are racing their way towards Hell. Ironic obviously.
...Avoid losing arguments with them. "If your God is so loving, then why....?" The fringer's and the literalist will drive you insane with their circular logic.
...be a good person, choose love more often than not love, do on to others, and Jesus will vouch for you because what you did onto others you did onto him. For the pharisies out there, well they will be in for a great dissapointment. Nobody, from any religion, from any culture, is any more or less likely to go to Hell or Heaven.