Asteroid 2007 TU24 has NASA concerned.

Maybe the band TOOL said it best, eh?

"Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bull s**t three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless f*ing hole we call L.A.
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*ing time. any f*ing day.
Learn to swim, Ill see you down in arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your cable and
Fret for your car.
Its a
Bull s**t three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless f*ing hole we call L.A.
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*ing time. any f*ing day.
Learn to swim, Ill see you down in arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that can not sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipsh**ts.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly s**t, stupid s**t...

One great big festering neon distraction,
Ive a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

F**k L Ron Hubbard and
F**k all his clones.
F**k all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

F**k retro anything.
F**k your tattoos.
F**k all you junkies and
F**k your short memory.

Learn to swim.

F**k smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
F**k these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz Im praying for rain
And Im praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Dont just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.
I cant imagine why you wouldnt
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down."

-Lyrics to the song "Aenema" by Tool

When ya listen to this song you can almost taste the impending doom...hope Maynard is wrong.

Antar's quote,

Now what is your take on this situation?

I'm not having any horrible dreams yet, like I did before 9/11. I don't think TU24 will cause a problem on the 29th.

My birdies will be back & Thanks for the help.

Ok so let me get this straight. It IS or ISN'T going to hit. I followed this for the first few pages but 50-ish pages is a lot lol.

If it is going to hit, I think I can be a good thing because it will show people that everything isn't always going to be O.K.

Anyways, get back to me whether or not its going to hit. All answers accepted.

Nyte

It's not going to hit. Not without any, shall we say, 'intervention', hmm? No, that's just feeding the fish in the tank...

.003704au

Originally posted by violet
Source

Obervations from Goldstone Radar

Goldstone radar observations of near-Earth asteroid 2007 TU24 last
night were successful.

The observations reveal an object roughly 250 meters in diameter, with
an interesting shape, and strongly suggest that rotates slowly.

The radar astrometry we obtained reduced the asteroid's three-sigma
range uncertainty at 00:00:00 UTC on Jan. 24 from about 2/3 of an
Earth radius to ~30 meters. Consequently, we have cancelled our
request for optical astrometry to support the rest of the radar
campaign.

Dr. Lance A. M. Benner
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Violet,

Thanks for that update and effort. Do you have Dr. Benner's ear to ask him a question?

As a layman relieved by this radar update ( see echo data Hildar provided to us a page or so back) it simply strikes me as curious how the nominal distance achieved via radio and visual observation back on Jan 18th is exactly the same number now identified by the new, closer and more accurate Jan 24th radar track?

From Jon Giorgini, 2008 (Jan. 24)

Solution #24 (2 Doppler, 1 delay)

Date (CT) Body ________CA Dist, MinDist, MaxDist, Vrel
---------------------- ----- ------- ------- ------- ------
A.D. 2008 Jan 29.35651 Earth .003704

.003704 .003704 9.248



From Jon Giorgini, 2008 (Jan. 18)

Date (CT) Body ________CA Dist, MinDist, MaxDist, Vrel
---------------------- ----- ------- ------- ------- ------
A.D. 2008 Jan 29.35570 Earth .003704

.003702 .003706 9.248

echo.jpl.nasa.gov...


I must be misunderstanding something simple in the comparison, or we should all take our hats are off to the great efforts of the Desert Moon Observatory peeps.


www.morning-twilight.com...

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Originally posted by antar
If WD5 is passing Mars at a short distance of only 16,000 miles, and we supposedly have equipment already set up to catch footage, this will be so interesting ! Then my friends we will get to see what a real NEO will do. I for one cant wait! I just hope that little guy walking around and the window washers are safe

antar,

Can you verify that we have equipment set up to monitor the WD5 mars interaction? I mean didnt they find that little guy (first obs. 2007-11-08) about the same time as TU24? Not challenging your thoughts here just checking if that's a legit bit of info.

best
scrap

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Originally posted by aaaauroraaaaa

"... with an interesting shape"

what does this mean?

the "very interesting shape" of the asteroid suggested that it was a "contact binary", or two asteroids that fell into each other after a period of orbiting each other.

Source

More info here:

The radar observations also suggest the asteroid is rotating slowly – perhaps once every 10 to 30 hours, he estimates based on the initial observations. Studying rotation rates can provide clues about whether an asteroid is a solid rock or a loose collection of rubble,

Source

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well I know we have heard from NASA on this rock
but for kicks, has anybody heard from any other
space agency like the Russians or Chinese or
what they are saying about it ? The more
sources we have for the same thing might be
a good idea. Sorry I just couldn't read thru all
55 pages to find out.

Also I found this depressing Japanese video entitled
"End of the world". The graphics in it are super !!!!
They show a dramatization of what they think would
happen if earth got hit by an asteroid the size of a continent.
pretty good lil video.

I thought it was funny how the rest of the world had been
gobbled up by the fire, yet Big Ben in London was still
chiming away the time .... I had to laugh at that one.

Posted for your amusement

Uhh,

hello, they cancelled all the rest of the planned visual observations???

The latest data suggests that visual and radio tracks were dead on the money a week before radar was even up and running.......

What are the odds that 'updated' planet-to-asteroid proximity distances derived from radar' are the same 'exact' number provided a week earlier - yet achieved without radar I believe!


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reply to post by SimonSays


i'm thirsty after that video..

did u see that little spaceship fly off in the distance, that was little bush going to mars

So........ is this thing going to be close or what ???? I havn't been through the whole thread but im getting the impression that its going to be pretty darn near.... Bieng in Australia will I be able to see TU24 go past ??? Or should I be heading to higher ground or a bunker.....

..Morning to all..

..... The news has spilled to all major newspapers here in italy and they are saying that Nasa has told that this asteroid will not hit the earth but will pass at min. point of 537.000 KM...

Originally posted by MountainStar
Antar's quote,

Now what is your take on this situation?

I'm not having any horrible dreams yet, like I did before 9/11. I don't think TU24 will cause a problem on the 29th.

My birdies will be back & Thanks for the help.

Let me know if your liddle birdies come back

Also, I found on the NEO site that it is now Earth MOID = .00125025 AU

This looks different than from yesterday, so can someone please explain (if it is different) whether they plan it as closer/farther?

CANNOT BELIEVE NASA!


this is a list of potential hazarduous asteroids from Harvard uni:

cfa-www.harvard.edu...


if you look at the closest encounter, asteroid called Apophis will pass on
2029 Apr. 13.91 at a distance of 0.0002318 AU . However, NASA shows 0.038 ..just to not let us panick .

About the TU24 asteroid - the same web-site mentions 0.003705 indeed.

My opinion - nothing to worry about TU24, but keep one eye on Apophis.. 2029

who's nasa

they dont even have the budget ti find them all. lucky dip!

my oldies saw a meteor fly over burning.. few weeks back. heading south in aust.. anyone else see it in aust east coast?

The Earth MOID is tightening. It's not alarming or anything. As of today's computations it still misses. NEODys link.

Cheers,

Vic

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So that means the MOID will change daily, then? I am -so- not good with scientific things and as I said before, I need people do dumb it down for me.

reply to post by Juicy


The Earth MOID changes constantly as it approaches. Most celestial bodies "wobble" and show some deviance from computed data. Don't worry unless you want to worry about something that can not be changed. It's coming and it's going to miss.

If the E MOID tightens up by another order of magnitude in the next couple a three days... then worry might be appropriate. It misses OK? If you don't think so phone an astronomer. Every sim says so... and yes they are only sims.

Amazing how many Indy-astronomers there are... and will be. LOL. I'm praying for good weather.

I'm surprised ATS doesn't have an Astronomer in Residence or something similar.

Cheers,

Vic

For everyone tootin the all clear...would someone care to adress this point (compare CA Dist then dates),

From Jon Giorgini, 2008 (Jan. 24)

Solution #24 (2 Doppler, 1 delay)

Date (CT) Body ________CA Dist, MinDist, MaxDist, Vrel
---------------------- ----- ------- ------- ------- ------
A.D. 2008 Jan 29.35651 Earth .003704 .003704 .003704 9.248



From Jon Giorgini, 2008 (Jan. 18)

Date (CT) Body ________CA Dist, MinDist, MaxDist, Vrel
---------------------- ----- ------- ------- ------- ------
A.D. 2008 Jan 29.35570 Earth .003704 .003702 .003706 9.248


Even taking into consideration another decimal place out, this means that the earlier 'non radar' tracks one week earlier were within 125 km -+ of the new exact radar track _ which is soo good Nasa says they will not need any visual observation of the fly-by.

Come on folks doesnt that smell funny to anyone? The damn number didnt change from old to new!!


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