reply to post by anti72
i wouldn't know, as i don't believe in spirits, at least not in the sense that you are describing.
reply to post by palehorse23
on one hand, i understand what you are saying. on the other hand, please try and understand the implications that can be derived by someone describing
something such as this as "luciferian", and how another person would easily assume that anyone describing themselves as luciferian becomes
associated with this phenonmenon.
there is alot of talk on ATS about satanism and devil/demon worship, and the two have become quite possibly hopelessly intermingled. satanism and
luciferianism as descriptors of demonology are misnomers, even as far as anton la vey's church of satan. these were names that were bestowed upon
various groups of people in a prejudicial manner, much like gypsy or mormon, and have become commonplace as a result of misunderstanding. la vey's
church of satan does not worship some dark prince, rather the name was given over by groups of judeo-christians in response to their belief systems,
which can be described as the opposite of christian, if only in no certain terms. hence the association became first anti-christian, then satanic.
these misnomers have been adopted by the various groups to further an image which many people do not find appealing, as a means of keeping member
exclusivity, i.e., if you hear the name church of satan or satanism or luciferianism, and presuppose that the person or group has something to do with
the devil without doing any research at all into the actual belief of the group, well then, you are probably not free thinking enough to be able to
appreciate the various aspects of these philosophies, and they save themselves the trouble of having to have the same debate over and over and
i personally disagree with this logic, but for lack of any better terminology i have to say that i am luciferian, as secular humanism is the closest
descriptor for my thought processes, however it is not close enough of a match for me to be comfortable with.
incidentally, luciferians can also be descriped as followers of lucifer calaritanus, the ultra-orthodox bishop of calgari, sardonia in the late fourth
so perhaps i should not have read so much into the title, i really just wanted to make everyone aware that as a whole luciferians aren't so bad. we
have many different branches, and some of them are "bad", but the same can be said for muslims, christians, and jewish faiths, anything where
extremism or corruption of the original ideals occurs.
i'll step down from my soap box now.