What other verified ancient settlements/indications of civilization are there?

Other than the following, can anyone name other verified ancient settlements or indications of civilization around the world with a brief discription and time period?

c.9000 ----------------Pulli Settlement, Sindi, Estonia
c.9000 ----------------Göbekli Tepe, Turkey
c.8350 ----------------Jericho - Pre-Pottery Neolithic A
c.7500 ----------------Çatal Hüyük, Turkey
c.7200 - 6600 --------Çayönü
c.7000 - 2600 --------Mehrgarh, Pakistan
c.6500 - 5600 --------Yeşilova Höyük, Turkey
c.6000 ----------------Sesklo, Greece
c.5000 ----------------Yümük Tepe, Turkey
c.4000 - 3500 --------Hamoukar, Syria
c.4000 ----------------Rehman Dheri, Pakistan
c.3700 ----------------Tell Brak/Nagar, Syria
c.3600 - 3300 --------Amri, Pakistan
c.3500 - 1750 --------Kalibangan, India
c.3400 ----------------Nubia/Ta-Seti, Sudan
c.3300 - 1600 --------Harappa, Pakistan
c.3250 - 30 -----------Ancient Egypt
c.3100 - 2500 --------Skara Brae, Orkney, Scotland
c.3000 ----------------Middle Jomon Period, Japan
c.3000 ----------------Jiroft, Iran
c.3000 - 2100 --------Shahr-I Sokhta, Iran
c.3000 - 2000 --------Shuruppak, Iraq
c.3000 - c.100 -------Troy, Turkey
c.3000 ----------------Byblos, Lebanon
c.3000 ----------------Sidon, Lebanon
c.3000 ----------------Adab, Iraq
c.3000 ----------------Urkesh, Syria
c.3000 - 2240 --------Ebla, Syria
c.3000 ----------------Ganeriwala
c.3000 ----------------Rakhigarhi
c.3000 ----------------Kot-Diji, Pakistan
c.2900 - 2050 --------Eridu, Iraq
c.2900 - 1759 --------Mari, Syria
c.2900 - 1450 --------Dholavira, India
c.2750 ----------------Tyre, Lebanon
c.2700 ----------------Larsa, Iraq
c.2700 - 1450 --------Minoan Civilization, Crete
c.2700 - 539 ----------Elamite Civilization, Iran
c.2600 - 1700 --------Mohenjo-Daro, Pakistan
c.2600 ----------------Uruk, Iraq
c.2600 ----------------Ur, Iraq
c.2500 ----------------Girsu, Iraq
c.2400 ----------------Lagash, Iraq
c.2500 ----------------Assur, Iraq
c.2500 - 1520 --------Kingdom of Kerma, Sudan
c.2400 ----------------Agade, Iraq
c.2400 ----------------Nuzi, Iraq
c.2400 - 1900 --------Lothal, India
c.2350 ----------------Umma, Iraq
c.2300 ----------------Gojoseon Kingdom, Korea
c.2194 - 207 ---------China - Xia Dynasty
c.2100 - 1700 --------Surkotada, India
c.2100 ----------------Nippur, Iraq
c.2000 ----------------Nineveh, Iraq
c.2000 ----------------Gonor Tepe, Turkmenistan
c.2000 - 1600 --------Altyn Depe, Turkmenistan
c.2000 ----------------Isin, Iraq
c.2000 ----------------Sintashta, Kazakhstan
c.2000 ----------------Petrovka, Kazakhstan

Dolni Vestonice

This Paleolithic site was inhabited from ca. 27 000 to 23 000 B.C.

The settlement had perhaps 100 people who inhabited the site the year round. In this period, Europe was in the midst of the Ice Age so the average daily temperature was probably around freezing. The site was on the edge of a swamp, and was at a point where mammoths and other herd animals would be funnelled in to make hunting them more easy.

Thanks Parta,

I had never heard of this site before, an interesting find indeed. The three teenage skeletons found together, even more so.

Cormac

you can find older dates for that site but i chose the date of the weaving impressions on fired clay there as something civilized...

Since the countries are close together, do you know of any sites in Slovakia that are contemporary to the Dolni Vestinice settlement?

there is a bit of a problem with that down there.



Precedent for the 21st Century:
The Danube Lawsuit at the Hague [hungary sues slovakia]
The Delta of the Pannon Sea
By Bela Liptak, 25 May 1997

www.hartford-hwp.com...


" As the ice cover receded to the North, some eight thousand years ago, the Pannon Sea was formed in the Carpathian Basin. The water from the melting snow was carried into it by a river, which the Romans called Ister and we call the Danube. This ancient sea delta was located, where the borders of Austria, Hungary and Slovakia meet. The unique flora and fauna, which evolved from Europe's only inland sea delta, survived in the Szigetkoz (island region) of Hungary into the 20th Century."

27 December 1997
www.hartford-hwp.com...

"The environmental stakes in this case are very high: The wetlands involved are the remains of the only inland sea delta in Europe. This delta survived since the last Ice Age, when the Pannon Sea filled the Carpathian Basin. Some 400 unique species have survived from what used to be this Pannon sea delta, and what today is called the Szigetkoz (”the region of a thousand islands”—in Hungarian), where, since the rerouting, not a single island remains,—as there is no water."



seems there was a little known flood.

want to see atlantis?

No thanks. What about other contemporary places in the Czech Republic? The Dolni Vestonice settlement you mentioned is the first I've ever heard of in the area. Are there any others?

Sad to hear about the loss of flaura and fauna in the area. Sometimes we can be our own worst enemy!

mladeč, předmostí, i guess maybe moravany

doesn't it strike you as strange that a sea filled the carpathian basin at the end of the last ice age?

Not really with the volume of ice there had to have been. It either had to have made its way downriver or filled the nearest low lying areas. Other strange areas are the Dead Sea. Something like 6 times saltier than the ocean. Giant boulders weighing tons distributed 10's to 100's of miles from their points of origin due to glacial movement, etc. It had to go somewhere.

well atlantis should be on your list should it not?



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I believe the name, "Atlantis" and the location of same to be, for lack of a better explanation, poetic license on the part of Plato. I really believe that putting it where Plato did was his way of saying, "This part ISN'T what is important for you to get from this story. What "IS" important is that another culture tried to destroy Athens and Egypt and Athens defeated them instead. Keep in mind, Athens at best would be using spears, swords and wooden shields.

Realistically, the destruction of an island continent where Plato said Atlantis was WOULD NOT have a same day effect on Athens, creating earthquakes, etc. And all three, Atlantis, Athens and Egypt would have had to exist AT THE SAME TIME. The destruction of Thera, circa 1600 BC, with the expulsion of 61 cubic kilometers of material, about half the islands size was, to me, more likely the basis for the story. I can neither prove nor disprove this.

so what effect does atlantis in the carpathian basin have on what you have said there?

I don't think Plato's Atlantis and the Carpathian Basin are related. That doesn't mean I believe there were NO settlements, cultures, etc. in or around that area. There almost definitely had to have been. I just believe the rising sea levels from the retreating glaciers had more to do with their destruction than Plato's Atlantis, the Greeks or their gods.

platos atlantis has two distinct constructs... location and layout
there is no need to worry about the talking about the layout if you control the location. what a treasure a reaccessible antlantis would have been huh?


if you wanted to think about it
doogle

[edit on 19-1-2008 by Parta]

What a treasure indeed. I think that's part of the problem though. So many people ignore what Plato says about Atlantis' relationship to Athens and Egypt, in favor of its alleged location, that they want it to be true, missing the point entirely. To me, the settlements we are finding every day that nobody has ever heard of have much more meaning than Plato's story.

case in point

www.youtube.com...

beside a major hiway and unknown to western scientists until 2005? what is up with that. i guess its the real troy [or ahhijawa].

Exactly, if every location that Atlantis was supposedly found in were true, this planet would be Atlantis.

I would much rather know about the settlements, etc. that are being found/will be found and where they fit in to human history. Hence, this thread.

i have been trying to get a location on these 7000 year old cast bronze beads [hundreds of]

www.stonepages.com...

very quiet. very odd if true. close to your area of interest.

Click here for more information.

Parta, I haven't had any more luck finding a location than what's in the article. The only other thing I could find was the story having come out of Budapest, to the northeast. Being in the pathway of a motorway, they were probably trying to cut down on vandalism. Still, pretty interesting.