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Originally posted by Austin9599945
reply to post by heliosprime
you were online a while back but did not reply to my 2 posts.
Your reply would be greatly appreciated.
God — The Koran asserts that the god of Islam is the God of Christians and Jews (Sura 29:46). Nothing could be farther from the truth.7
The god of Islam, Allah, is most definitely not the God of the Bible. Allah is presented in the Koran as an autocratic ruler who is aloof and arbitrary (Sura 5:40). Allah is unknowable whereas the God of the Bible is knowable (2 Timothy 1:12). Allah is impersonal, unlike the personal God the Scriptures reveal (1 Peter 5:6-7). Allah is unitarian (Sura 4:48) whereas the God of the Bible is trinitarian (2 Corinthians 13:14). Here is what the Koran says about the God of the Bible (Sura 4:171): “Believe in Allah and say not ‘Trinity.’ Cease! It is better for you! Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from his transcendent majesty that he should have a son.” www.apologeticsindex.org...
Originally posted by Iasion
Odd question.
The majority of muslims believe Jesus was a prophet.
Some believe he was a myth.
Originally posted by heliosprime
Why thank you, thats very nice of you to say. (author tears up)
Truth need no PC "soft" approach. Sometimes a good slap is what it takes to get someones attention. Especially when no one is paying attention in the first place.
Originally posted by Austin9599945
And WHY do you think you have the right to bash Islam?Would Jesus do that?Would Jesus say "this is right,this is the truth,eat it.All other religions are infesting the world.I am right"
your approach to Islam is quite rude.
Dont copy and paste external sources please.Buy or borrow a Qur'an and show me a passage which prove its falsehood.
You claim that Islam is a lie.But with all due respect I highly DOUBT that a young man,on a debating website,has DISPROVED a major religion consisting of over 1 billion followers.
I want you to tell me right now HOW you are right about your God.What evidence is there??
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
please tell me what your evidence is
Originally posted by heliosprime
Those who know the truth have FAITH. There are very, very few.
MY GOD is GOD. 'I am that I am". Choose not to believe, it is your choice. If you hear the truth and believe not, its YOUR loss.
As far as "bashing" islam............pointing out lies is not bashing.
There are no human words anywhere that can "make" you believe. But if you truely ask, pray to the true living GOD, repent in your heart, he will answer. It may not be instant, your eyes may be too tightly shut to see, but he will answer.
Seek the LORD with all your heart, keep his commandments, beileve that Jesus IS his son.
Do these things and you will have an answer. The proof you seek is all around you, you just need to reach out and take it.
On a technical basis, what the koran teaches is false, the book itself is a lie. Again the proof is everywhere.
The truth of Jesus was taught with love, and peace, and is still the largest on the planet 2.3 billion. Islam has always been spread thru the sword and is only 1.3 billion. One is accepted the other is forced.
Originally posted by Kyuubi
Did you know that Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet, right now? And it's not by sword, these days. We would know if it was. The only spread-by-sword occurred centuries ago in the East. Today, it's legitimate.
If people want to have faith in something, regardless of being a lie, why is it your place to say they're wrong? If they end up going to Hell, according to your beliefs, is that really your problem? Why do you care? Shouldn't judgement be left to your God?
Right now, you're just bashing. To call a faith the work of Satan is nothing but bashing.
[edit on 9-2-2008 by Kyuubi]
Originally posted by undo
So are you muslim? I guess not if you don't believe what they believe or do you have the freedom to believe variations on the original theme?
Originally posted by heliosprime
Originally posted by Kyuubi
Did you know that Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet, right now? And it's not by sword, these days. We would know if it was. The only spread-by-sword occurred centuries ago in the East. Today, it's legitimate.
If people want to have faith in something, regardless of being a lie, why is it your place to say they're wrong? If they end up going to Hell, according to your beliefs, is that really your problem? Why do you care? Shouldn't judgement be left to your God?
Right now, you're just bashing. To call a faith the work of Satan is nothing but bashing.
[edit on 9-2-2008 by Kyuubi]
Have you ever heard of the TALIBAN? That was not centuries ago. People will make their own choices, BUT, I would not be Chrisitan if I didn't tell them the truth. Judgement is the LORD's, but yet again, the great lie is the corruption of "thou shalt not judge". It is far from judgement to speak the truth about evil. It is not I who may condem them, but thier own actions. It is GOD who will judge them.
But the greatest LIE is to murder your way into heaven. Basically those who follow Islam and the koran believe they enter heaven through murder. You can't get more FAKE than that.
Originally posted by Austin9599945
but,you SEEM to have an outlook that all,(or many),muslims are terrorists.(ie.-kill christians,martyr for your virgins,Taliban etc)
Im quite sure you dont REALLY feel this way.But it SEEMS like it.
[edit on 9-2-2008 by Austin9599945]
Originally posted by Kyuubi
I agree with Jimbo. Your "logic" is ridiculous. Amen to his good words. Hah.
Originally posted by heliosprime
Who siad anything about "logic"? It is you, the individual that chooses not to believe. As a famous TV show once said so very well. "The truth is out there" It is up to you to find it, it is all around you, everywhere, in the very air you breath, the food you eat, everythng you touch. The LORD GOD is everywhere. It is YOU who is blind, and deaf.
Originally posted by Kyuubi
"I'm not any more skeptical about your religious beliefs than I am about every new scientific idea I hear about. But in my line of work, they're called hypotheses, not inspiration and not revelation."
-Carl Sagan.
My basic notion is that Earthly beings will never know the truth of what scriptures claim. Religion is purely an act of faith. It's impossible to declare it truth and be taken seriously.
Originally posted by heliosprime
There are those who will never "get-it". "It" is too hard, or inconvienient. For Islam the evil of the world is "non-muslim" and they must convert or die. This must be done NOW in this age of man.
Originally posted by heliosprime
Again the koran requires murder as a shortcut to get to heaven. Jesus requires faith, gave his grace, and requires obedience to his fathers rules. The koran subverts those rules by murder, and lies, and worshiping falsely on the wrong day (friday).
"Carl Sagan"...
Mr. There is no god himself...........
Originally posted by heliosprime
Their eyes are shut since before they "looked".
Sagan was an idiot.
I love how "discovering" what has been around since creation is somehow "godlike" to the masses of idiots. Sagan was a very accomplished "money raiser" for his cause.
"GOD is" it's that simple.
To those who truly seek him, "HE IS". To those who do not seek his wisdom, he "IS NOT". Their eyes are shut since before they "looked".
My GOD is "GOD!", end of story, he is "THE GOD, THE ONLY GOD" all others are fake. Jesus is his son and MY saviour.
Arrogant? perhaps, more likely "humble". Seeing that there is someone greater than "man", and all the silly self glorifying modern arrogance
The end of this age is soon. It is time to understand reality. GOD is real. allah is a fake. the koran is fake, islam is evil. muhammad was fake.