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Originally posted by Skyfloating
This thread has been visited by some true skeptics (malganis, xtrozero, loneweasal) and some pseudoskeptics (no names. you know who you are).
Originally posted by Skyfloating
A true skeptic can question, debunk and refute things without resorting to bizzare generalizations, weird tactics and personal attacks.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Thanks so much for pointing out that the very topic conspiracy/paranormal asserts that evidence is deliberately hidden from the public.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Since "hidden evidence" is part of general conspiracy-theory, there is no logic in debunking a case just because there is no immediate evidence.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
When they say "There is no evidence" what they often mean is "I aint seen it on CNN so it cant be true".
Originally posted by Skyfloating
A true skeptic can question, debunk and refute things without resorting to bizzare generalizations, weird tactics and personal attacks. Its as simple as that.
Originally posted by interestedalways
The way I see it is if you
1) Don't have a hidden agenda for whatever reason
2) Aren't on someone's payroll
Then
3) Why would you be bothered by this thread.
If you are a debunking skeptic, then no one is talking about you and you have nothing to defend.
Originally posted by tep200377
As many other skeptics here on ATS, I feel that the OP actually takes us all in one take labeling us seudos. I think it is a big grey zone from a regular skeptic to pseudo...
Including you, there are a lot of people here that needs to be reminded that this is a forum. It is not a place where you only share common thoughts
Originally posted by interestedalways
You know the more you fight this thread the worse your motives appear to be. Then I just happened to see you on another thread being just as antagonistic. This appears to be a habit with you.
Originally posted by undo
One individual would deliberately go into my threads and argue pointless stuff, deliberately attack me, instead of the topic, bring up old material from other threads withtout linking for reference...
Originally posted by interestedalways
The way I see it is if you
1) Don't have a hidden agenda for whatever reason
2) Aren't on someone's payroll
Then
3) Why would you be bothered by this thread.
If you are a debunking skeptic, then no one is talking about you and you have nothing to defend.
Originally posted by interestedalways
So is this statement you made above
Including you, there are a lot of people here that needs to be reminded that this is a forum. It is not a place where you only share common thoughts
This is what it is all about for you, the dislike you have for this thread. Could you define your understanding of the word Forum?
forum: a public meeting or assembly for open discussion
Originally posted by tep200377
You are you to tell anyone on this forum not to participate with other views than the OP? For me its all about discussing the topic, and for me to present my proofs regarding my views. Untill now, you have only attached me and my suppsedly views on the OP. You haven't contributed with anything as far as i know..
[edit on 22-1-2008 by tep200377]
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
This is about shutting down disagreement, nothing more.
Originally posted by tep200377
You are you to tell anyone on this forum not to participate with other views than the OP? For me its all about discussing the topic, and for me to present my proofs regarding my views.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
First of all, on a all-can-post forum its quite impossible to shut down disagreement, second of all, as pointed out a few dozen times this has nothing to do with disagreement and disagreement is appreciated.
The statement doesnt make any sense (in the thread-context) but the pseudoskeptic hopes that the gullible will swallow it.
The tactic you apply here is subtly implying that X is intended. But not only do I not intend X...even if I would, it wouldnt be possible.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
I am not subtly implying anything, I am outright saying it. You want there to be an echo-chamber, you do not want anyone to disagree with you.
You will just accuse them of something nefarious if they do.
you call me the same because I am disagreeing with you, pointing out the flaws in your argument, and how you are engaging in the exact same tactics you accuse the disinfo-agents of using.
You can shut down debate, and that is your goal.
Now, while you may not have the power to force anyone out, you can create an atmosphere wherein debate is not only frowned upon,
but met with vehement opposition. You do this by attacking the motivations and character of anyone who challenges you. The exact same thing you are doing now.
You can shut down debate,
Originally posted by rawsom
Its just that an average iq simply isn't enough to produce an answer that is acquired with THE scientific method. I have never, ever seen one such paper made by a person, who is not qualified in this particular way.