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How Fake UFO's are created

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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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Here is a pic of the 2nd los roques ufo, I lifted it a little higher from the horizon, it's showing the trees in vue6, you will either see palm trees or euclyptus trees most likely.

[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/16/ufoproject5rh6.th.jpg]


This picture shows a frame rendered today from that same los roques ufo, showing how easily vue6 renders sunlight and hazy conditions.

[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1754/ufoproject4wr6.th.jpg]



Here's a picture showing a frame of the high speed pass of the los roques UFO,

[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4296/ufoproject2jf0.th.jpg]




Here's the same frame of time from a different viewpoint, showing that all I have modelled was the mountain and a few trees and a hut.

[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/692/ufoproject3jh7.th.jpg]



Here's another UFO I made, showing what can be possible by dirtying up the picture to resemble an old 70's photo, experts in photography would be able to do a much better job, again..an easy 30 minutes ot create.

[img=http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9060/bola31eg9.th.jpg]





Now on to business, here is the display of the software i used to create the latest fake ufo (posted at the top of this thread), you'll see the mothership .bmp file approaching the clouds, you'll also noticed that I have masked a portion of the cloud where I want the UFO to go under..
[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1126/ufo1ky2.th.jpg]




Here's a close up showing the UFO and the cloud mask. notice how the UFO was actually very low quality. But even more important to learn is that once again, it doesn't require an expert artist to craate these ships, since in the video, it looks QUITE real..
[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4268/ufo2vj1.th.jpg]





Now this picture you'll see that I have turned off the first mask (notice UFO in front of clouds) and turned on the second mask for the other portion of the cloud, the spiky part at the bottom, was so that I could move the mask, frame by frame with the building..otherwise it is hard to match the scroll movement precisely.

[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6356/ufo3qn2.th.jpg]




This is a picture showing the masking of the mountain..you'll see the 'childlishly drawn ufo approaching)
[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7646/ufo4qv6.th.jpg]





Here is the last portion of the mountain being masked..
[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2720/ufo5wq1.th.jpg]





Now, you'll see a much bigger UFO (bright light) identical to the one used for the video, in actuality, all it is, is a bright light optic effect. It travels from left to right on my panoramic picture.
[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2248/ufo6yf6.th.jpg]



Here is an overview of the picture used. Note: It does not have to be a panoramic picture, regular pictures found on the internet will do fine as well. The dashed square is my viewframe, this is the view frame you are looking through during the video. Basically it's my camera.

[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1992/ufo7yz8.th.jpg]




posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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This picture shows the reference frame to the left. In the film you would only see this portion of the picture.
[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9715/ufo8em6.th.jpg]





Notice that once you have a few masks in place, you can throw a pitcure of a car up there and it will appear to be behind the clouds. For fun, I threw in the Los Roques UFO.


[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8994/ufo9oj2.th.jpg]



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 03:55 PM
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Holy Crap! You are doing a great service to the ATS community here.
Thank you so much for illustrating these effects.
I'm going to have to get myself some software and a dedicated server to mess around with this stuff myself.

I really didn't understand that these things were possible.

Can't wait for the next post! I've been out of school for a long time now LOL, but you sir/mam can consider me signed up and early for class


p.s. unfortunately the embed image code from Imageshack doesn't work properly in BB Code posting, I'm not sure why.

But the direct link URL to the image should do the trick!


[edit on 20-1-2008 by WitnessFromAfar]



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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Here are a few things to look for that I don't think have been mentioned concerning sniffing out CGI videos.

1. Motion matching - Most 3d Software can motion track a 3D object agains a real life video. There are weakness to this method, however a frame by frame look will reveal (in most cases) the UFO not moving in the right direction as the view frame. Some artists like myself, will actually move the UFO frame by frame against the background. This type of video takes longer to create but is harder to distinguish.

2. a large portion of UFO videos consist of a still photo wiht a UFO overlaid on top and a camera shake effect keyframed (or added) afterward. These are the videos where you will not see any tracking problems as the UFO IS part of the photo frame. Concerning UFO vids of this nature, you will notice five VERY common traits.

TRAIT A: Zooming into the UFO - Zooms can give away a fake UFO video instantly, THe Hiait Video and the Dominican follow up video's revealed this mistake. It's not just the palm trees that everyone talks about that gave this video away. When the UFO is OFFCENTER the view frame, the artist will tend to Zoom in, while equally proportionatly panning to center the UFO. As you know, the only people who are VERY good at doing this, are news camera men, or sports cameramen. Usually a ZOom only happens once the target is Centered.

TRAIT B: Zooming back out - Keyframing is a very tedious process, one that can seperate an amatuer from a Pro VERY easily. typically in these videos, you will notice the 'camera' zooming in, then once it reaches it's zoom level, it will zoom right back out, without pausing. This is in a lot of videos you will see. What artists are supposed to do, is allow the zoom to remain the same for a second or two before keframing in the next zoom target. This horrible effect can be seen in many movies, including 'Cloverfield'. I'm amazed they allow this to go unchecked.

TRAIT C: Panning - Typically and very often, the target UFO will enter the video frame to the side. The 'camera' is unable to center the UFO in the frame because it actually is on the edge of the Pciture frame, (refer to the pictures I posted to see the video frame0, So you will see the 'camera' pan as much as it can towards the UFO..then the UFO will slowly come to the center of the screen. ALSO the UFO will also tend to exit off to the left or right of the screen, as if the cameraman can't quite turn the camera anylonger.Watch my fake UFO video (at the top of the thread) to see the mothership slowly entering center frame. VERY Common mistake to make.

TRAIT D : Panning again - Camera shake is usually an advanced method used to simuate a handheld camera. However, MOST vid makers will just keyframe in movements of the reference frame. Similar to making a square with you fingers..placing it up against your monitor and moving it from left to right.... that is your 'camera'. The mistake lies in the method used in the keyframing. As I said concerning the 'zooming back out' Trait. When the 'camera' moves to the left...it will instantly pan to the next pan target...then to the next..and next. The Domincian Republic video shows this trait throughout. Forget the palm trees! THIS is what gave it away, and many other vids. When I saw this video, I instantly KNEW it was viewpoint keyframing. Again, an experienced artist will space the pan targets for a second or two to make it look more real. Most do not. Look for this mistake.

TRAIT E: VERY COMMON - the expert sports cameraman video, where 'cameraman' zooms into the UFO and keeps it relatively centered, dispite the fact that the UFO is darting around. The ITALIAN AIRFORCE VIDEO revealed this weakness. I knew it was fake the first time it was posted.

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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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Hi witnessfromafar, and thanks! You're right, the pictures I posted where just thumbnails. Sorry 'bout that. I posted all the links to the images in my other post afterwards, hopefully you'll see it there.

Thanks again!



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 04:58 PM
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Sorry for the mess, here's a thumbnail - link post for the videos to my descriptions. check out my posts before this for a description of what the heck I'm talking about.

[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/16/ufoproject5rh6.th.jpg]



[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1754/ufoproject4wr6.th.jpg]



[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4296/ufoproject2jf0.th.jpg]




[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/692/ufoproject3jh7.th.jpg]





[img=http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9060/bola31eg9.th.jpg]



[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1126/ufo1ky2.th.jpg]


Here's a close up showing the UFO and the cloud mask. notice how the UFO was actually very low quality. But even more important to learn is that once again, it doesn't require an expert artist to craate these ships, since in the video, it looks QUITE real..


[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4268/ufo2vj1.th.jpg]


Now this picture you'll see that I have turned off the first mask (notice UFO in front of clouds) and turned on the second mask for the other portion of the cloud, the spiky part at the bottom, was so that I could move the mask, frame by frame with the building..otherwise it is hard to match the scroll movement precisely.


[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6356/ufo3qn2.th.jpg]



[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7646/ufo4qv6.th.jpg]



[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2248/ufo6yf6.th.jpg]




[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9715/ufo8em6.th.jpg]

[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1992/ufo7yz8.th.jpg]
[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8994/ufo9oj2.th.jpg]



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 05:03 PM
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You are welcome, and thank you as well!

I've learned a lot already, and these are great guidelines. I'm sure this information will come in handy when examining future clips.

I'm not sure how to encourage you to continue (my basic understanding still being relatively low in this area) but please do! Really terrific work Manbird, and your explanations are easy (for me) to follow also!



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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Hey!!! Looks pretty good!!! Do you do bigfoot, too?



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Fuzzyone
reply to post by manbird12000
 


Hey!!! Looks pretty good!!! Do you do bigfoot, too?


Only if my wife asks me, and that's behind closed doors!



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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i found this on live leak looks like a fake to me what do you think?


P.A ufo?

[edit on 20-1-2008 by miguelbmx]



posted on Jan, 21 2008 @ 01:00 AM
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I never really give much attention to a video with a bunch of blinking lights in a pitch black sky...but...

The acting was horrible in it, that's for sure. Tell you the truth, looks like firefly's!

To be honest, the microphone seems pretty close to the users mouth, the combination of him being outside and us hearing every subtle breathing sound is suspicious.
The is also a freq. buzz in the background similar to the type of buzz you would hear from an aparatus attached to a computer, such as a microphone or headset, could be an anolog recorder though.

The camera seems to rotate as if he's looking completely straight up and rotating on his feet, which is wierd.

But I'd say the acting gives this one away. Just one more video with a bunch of lights shining against a night sky.



posted on Jan, 21 2008 @ 01:05 AM
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dude i am so glad you made this tread.
and thanks checking out the video.

this is not a one liner


[edit on 21-1-2008 by miguelbmx]



posted on Jan, 21 2008 @ 01:13 AM
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Funny, but that just took it a little too far
Well done on this tutorial. I must say that I can tell some are fake but others I was quite impressed with



posted on Jan, 21 2008 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by eRauzed
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Funny, but that just took it a little too far
Well done on this tutorial. I must say that I can tell some are fake but others I was quite impressed with



The video that MiguelBMX posted a link to, I wouldn't look at for more than 3 seconds.



posted on Jan, 21 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by jritzmann
CGI's awesome stuff, but back in the day (and sometimes still today) this is one of the ways people got so incredibly fooled.


Yeah, there's actually no need to even "fake" a photo. You can build a large inflatable model and take a photo of it, and there you have a real photo of a UFO that will stand up to any scrutiny.

Photos are fun and interesting, but by themselves, photos are only one small bit of possible evidence that needs to be backed up by other, harder evidence for it to have anything other than novelty value.

Multiple sightings and images from different people who are not anonymous, artifacts tested for authenticity, verification by experts and government officials... add all those things to a photo and you've really got something. Something nobody's come up with after more than half a century.



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