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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:54 PM by DogHead
reply to post by Ancrom



You are way off with Andromeda Strain other than the procedures followed to make sure it never happens. Not what I meant at all...

NRO is a broad umbrella but again I think that is a swing and a miss for you, sorry.

NRO has a presence, and a big one, but so do others. It's all the same alphabet soup day to day anyways.



reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 09:23 PM by rebeccaspusy
Let's Clear this up... I stumbled across this website because I was flying and saw a restricted area near Alice Springs so I'm not a conspiracy person but was just interested in what it was Restricted for...

O.K the Definition of Restricted Airspace - It is only a warning to aircraft flying that there may be any of the following - Artillery ranges, firing of any sort or anything damaging to aircraft in flight.

Plus the height of this is only to 18,000 ft

This is not Prohibited airspace in-which aircraft are Absolutly not allowed to pass over without permission - IT's just a warning that you could damage your aircraft if there was a firing range or something nearby.

**Also if there was real concern for them to hide what they are doing...Why would they allow you to post online where they can track your ip address...It's just silly!...Plus if the reason for this massive project is to power submarines...I think it would be easier to buy bigger batteries for the subs.**

Plus why would any person on earth try to jeapordise our lives...it's been open since 1969 or something and I've been living a happy life...Infact we have been saved many times by america...And iraqi's are glad that saddam has gone...And to that lasor beam going into the sky...I'm sure thousands of people per night would have seen it as they were flying buy the main Airway route that crosses over alice spring on the way to europe... So I can't buy it...Apart from that it's a military installation to fight against communism.

I mean if america wanted to control us they would be a communist country but they aren't...They are a democracy...

Anyway I'm just a person who likes to know about the world but doesn't want to question the military if I know they are doing their best to keep the world safe...


reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 10:22 PM by purplemonkey
reply to post by rebeccaspusy



"**Also if there was real concern for them to hide what they are doing...Why would they allow you to post online where they can track your ip address...It's just silly!"

he claims that the administrators at the base have allowed him to release some information... for the purpose of... well he never really gave a good answer... and releasing to such a small number of people is kind of pointless...

"Plus why would any person on earth try to jeapordise our lives..."

Money, power....

"And iraqi's are glad that saddam has gone..."

and they are happy with the current situation?..

"And to that lasor beam going into the sky...I'm sure thousands of people per night would have seen it as they were flying buy the main Airway route that crosses over alice spring on the way to europe... So I can't buy it...Apart from that it's a military installation to fight against communism"

this part i agree with... all up until you say 'fight against communism'... the fight was never over communism and democracy it was about who was the super power (during the cold war that is)!

"I mean if America wanted to control us they would be a communist country but they aren't...They are a democracy.."

yes America is democratic /sarcasm...


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 05:48 PM by DogHead
reply to post by broli



The conversation wasn't quite like that. You have to get permission to write pretty much anything, report on all your activities and sources of income, everything. But sometimes the powers that be are surprisingly tolerant. It depends on whether what you are going to refer to is accurate, sensitive, endangering people etc. I loathe disinformation so I wanted to be 100% accurate as far as I could be.

I know there are victims of conspiracies here who have matching information to me, if you look around you will see that their information dovetails and there is an excellent reason why. These people are strangers to me but their experiences check out.

There are also CIA agents of influence here or agents of change to use the Hegelian term. They are NOT in my situation, they are patsies of disinfo ops. There seem to be some others who have real information to share but they seem to often be the ones ignored or howled down. I think because real life spectacular stuff doesn't always SEEM spectacular. Anyway, hope that is helpful to explain the situation.



reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 06:39 AM by DogHead
Lunar Sparkplugs

There are a range of items collected in near space, on the Moon and on Mars. As far as I know nothing has been collected on Venus.

Some of the stuff shows signs of life. As in, life NOW, something alive on the rock or the item. In one case, inside the item.

I have seen some of the items in question. In some cases I have not the faintest idea how they worked out exactly that these are non-naturally occurring ie manufactured or made. Most look like rocks or fossils.

I saw in a briefing video little creepy crawly things inside a fluid which was inside a rock from Mars. They looked like little octopus headed centipedes. I don't know exactly how big they are but the rock they are inside is miniscule. The things themselves are or were in an aquarium where they were set up in a sort of poisonous fish tank arrangement. They are being used for the full range of potential stuff you'd imagine- cancer cures, nerve gas, new plastics, plastic surgery, nerve regeneration. I have to say they looked anything but friendly, really quite nightmarish. If you've ever seen flukes or parasites like that up close- that same sort of grim animal purposefulness in their twitchy movements.

It wasn't my area at all to actually investigate them.

What I don't know is whether those creepy crawlies are terrestrial mutations caused when the rock was infected on Earth or whether they were already on it.

Some of the other stuff is space junk that apparently doesn't come from any Earth launch. Couple of the pieces are Methuselah old, so definitely not from us. There is also a small satellite which is one of apparently thousands put up there as a perimeter around the Earth by... somebody else. It certainly doesn't look like any of the ones we were briefed about (ours and foreign) and didn't look terrestrial.

My favourite of the items is glowing Moon water- never found out what the story was with that beyond the fact that it came from a crater up there.

It is so frustrating because I never got the chance I wanted to just look at these things either in the US or in Australia.

It's real though, and everything from flame throwers to radioactive metal filings are set up to burn down or kill ASAP anybody or anything trying to get them out or to get in to them.

The store itself is inside a Faraday cage and has glass beads set into an air barrier between the stanchions and walls. As well as the normal security which I am not allowed and would never reveal.

The existence of these things confirms life on other worlds for me, and confirms that there is intelligent technological life, but at the same time it is still so insubstantial in some ways.

Debate just goes on and on and on about whether some peripatetic race has been and gone long ago, is the Moon hollow or just puncutated with massive caverns, and so on.

It's like the fact of alien life becomes somewhat ho hum and then it's back to arguing over details. Strange world.

This is why here I am hopeful on ATS some people will come forward with other pieces of the puzzle for me and I make no secret to my old employers about that. The people with the folders full of answers will just sit on them until doomsday so I have no other choice.

And I genuinely feel that limited hangout is what they want now. They want it all to edge into the public consciousness the way it would have from 1947 onward if they hadn't stepped in to some manipulation.
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