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Pine Gap Underground Entry?

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:35 AM
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Pine Gap, ECHALON, NSA, OTH Radar. Yes there are lifts, to build satellite dishes you must 1st build the underground foundations. You did admit that there are maintenance tunnels, that requires lifts of a heavy duty type big enough for forklifts and trucks etc.

Remember that NSA have hectares of multiprocessing CPU's interconnected that can "pluck" data as per ECHALON SOP's (in the USA I believe public knowledge - tongue in cheek) . Hence OTH Radar. What better place. You made no mention of the Energy Commission employees either. great place to split atoms as the techonic plates are VERY stable and not subject to seismic fluctuations. Very safe place to be.

Loved your comment about the local indigenous population too (not) we can hunt anywhere, And that depends what we are hunting for,....

Eg; Maralinga, above ground testing to explain underground cavity creation for seisomolgy reports. Blow a hole underground whilst above testing conducted to explain the incoming reports of plate activity "yeha just let off an above ground test device,. that explains the seismic anomalies". end of story.

Please explain how the diesel generators account for the power input when the power usage/output required is far greater. We not only listen, we broadcast as well.

So if you've never been escorted by armed MP's, you are "unclassified" personell. Not privy etc. If you still work there look for Energy Commission staff. Just cause they visit the crapper for a half hour doesn't mean they were in the crapper LMAO.

It's considered to be joint US/OZ territory, but for the fact that we provide the location, they provide the technology, so the US has the upper hand and call the shots.

I call you out, MilTelPsiOps at work to protect what we "don't want to know".

Won't say much else about the power ratios, but keep thinking and you'll notice anomalies. everything else I said is public knowledge so I can comply with directives.

Old adage, "It takes one to know one"

Happy Hunting

HADES




posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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I love the following comment you make and I will directly quote your own words to prove you know NOT what you say; YOU HAVE NEVER WORKED THERE!!

"I read through this thread about Pine Gap. I roll my eyes reading some of the absolute nonsense being said.

As a bloke who has lived in Alice Springs since 1988, I will make just one comment to show how very questionable some of the "facts" posted here are.

Comment: If Pine Gap is so Top Secret, how is it then possible that visitors can join tours of the place.? I've been there many times but have never worked there. "" END QUOTE

But you made comments about 2 of the largest aircraft ever built that fly in 3 times a week,.. HMMM, something doesn't add up here if there are only 600 staff, thats a lot of food considering the size of the aircraft.

Here's a hint, look for the people that get off the plane that don't sweat.

Happy Hunting

HADES



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Interesting thread. From the description of things, it sounds less like UFOs for the most part and doing stuff that would be out of line with the START treaty and other proliferation agreements. More or less keeping stocks fresh or bigger than admitted to. The irony is that it's in a country that doesn't officially allow nuclear reactors, but does have a history of mining and exporting uranium. I could only imagine a mine and processing plant hidden under what everyone presumes to only be a high security com-station.

I wonder if the types they have as "nuke" people are more the ordinance variety or more plant-operator types. If the second, I'm willing to bet navy or ex-navy and "bubbleheads" in particular. (More apt to keep secrets.)

Of course will never really know, will we?



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Ex-Navy Bubbehead, intel extrpolations

Join the dots



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 03:51 AM
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maxwellsdemon, I have provided evidence. Where is yours?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:32 AM
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Does this strike you as odd in any way?





Looks like a man made hangar/entrance or something.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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Looks like one of the hundreds of overhanging clefts of the Macdonnell Ranges. Looks like a quarry. Looks like a mine shaft. (look further along that ridge and others in the 350 kilometre long ranges and you will find hundreds more strange appearances. Some look like peoples faces.
What is important is what something is, rather than what it looks like. The aborigines of Sydney thought Captain Cook was a ghost, but of course he was not.
I have hiked all over the Macdonnel Ranges and up into the mountains. The only mysterious things to be seen are aboriginal paintings and petraglyphs that are so high above your head, you would think scaffolding was required or carved by giants if you let your imagination go. Or of course they might have been standing on the ground, being a sand dune that was once there 200 years ago, but has since been blown against the cliff further down wind. There is only one thing I have found amazing in the mountains and without explanation is the carving into what looks like a headstone with English initials and the year 1855 which is more than 5 years before the first known white man came through central Australia. Now that is a mystery.


Seriously though, there is no evidence at all of Nuclear Reactor and multiple underground floors of Pine Gap. Some website written by an unknown person says so, therefore it must be true??

There are many websites out there saying Americans were flown in and out under the cloak of darkness to build the place. This is an outright lie. It was built by local Alice Springs contractors. All aussie and the place itself was designed by an Aussie Edwin HATT, the name sake of the the road to the place. All of that can be verified in clear evidence.
There is not one thread of evidence to say the place was built by the yanks, but overwhelming evidence to prove it was built by local Aussies. In the Alice Springs library you can go into the section called ""The Alice Springs Collection" which is a collection of material only relating to Alice Springs. You can view the newspapers of the 1960's and see photos of the place under construction. You will read stories of the local companies winning the contracts to provide the steel, pour the concrete, clear the earth and so forth.


All this talk of thousands of employees has no substance. All bar about a dozen temporary single workers, the rest all live in town with their families. They take a bus to and from the place for each shift.
They buy their groceries at the local supermarket. Their kids go to the local schools. When sick they attend the same GP's as the rest of us. Sure, some are former military but a very significant number have only ever been a civilian.

The Starlifter and Galaxy are loaded and unloaded at the Alice Springs domestic airport in full view of everybody. Sometimes all that comes off the once a week plane is a small 2 metre x 2 metre packing crate. Hardly food for thousands is it? More commonly we see furniture and cars being unloaded and inspected by customs and quarantine before leaving the tarmac. (more freight comes on and off a single domestic Qantas flights, being just one of the dozen or so daily domestic flights)

There is no security restrictions on the Alice Springs airport tarmac, so you can take as many photos as you like. So where are the photos of massive containers and trailer loads of salt. ? None exist because those claims are false.

Come on people... I live here and can easily point you to clear factual evidence to dispell almost all of those rumours,.
edit on 31-1-2011 by NTresident because: fixing typos



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by apodictic

Looks like a man made hangar/entrance or something.



B.T.W. ... to me it just looks like a natural formation of the range. There is another similar just to the left and more on the range running parallel behind it some 20 kilometeres away.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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toooooooooo early to read a wall of text. But I see nothing else around there that looks like that that isn't covered by trees. And if you think about it, that would be an ideal location for a hangar. Mountain on one side, forest on the other, and only one way in to get to in. yes I know it's kind of a stretch but of course they'd try to camouflage it well and it can't be seen from the air like on google earth or something. It was just a question because it struck me as kind of odd that it's a perfect angle like that. And of course there's no evidence of nuclear crap, then it wouldn't be so secret would it! Not saying there is, but yeah. Thanks for your input just wanted to see what a local thought of it
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:28 AM
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Some relevant media articles of Pine Gap from the newspapers....


www.abc.net.au...

"It's been very productive and a wonderful example of what the United States and Australia can do when we put our minds to it."

Mr Bleich says the base upgrades include work on its power station.

"There is going to be improvements in the kind of fuel which is used, moving off of diesel and into natural gas and they've also done a number of refinements within the facility in order to make it more environmentally-friendly.

"In fact it's recently met the Australian environmental certification standards."[/qoute]

Job vacancies advertised at Pine Gap (note - advertising for Australian employees)
www.jobisjob.com.au...

#
Electrician - Power Generation
Company: Raytheon
Location: Alice Springs NT 0870
At Raytheon Australia we deliver high technology solutions and mission support to defence and government customers. As a global leader in state of the art electronics and mission systems support, Raytheon is one of Australia's largest and most successful... jobs in alice springs…

Electrician
Company: Raytheon
Location: Alice Springs NT 0870
At Raytheon Australia we deliver high technology solutions and mission support to defence and government customers. Raytheon has the contract to provide maintenance support for the Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap (JDFPG) mission based near Alice Springs... alice springs jobs…

Diesel Fitter/Mechanic
Company: Raytheon
Location: Alice Springs NT 0870
At Raytheon Australia we deliver customer solutions and mission support to defence and government industry clients. As a global leader in defence, commercial and government electronics, Raytheon is one of Australia's largest and most successful defence... jobs alice springs…

HR Manager - Alice Springs
Company: Raytheon
Location: Alice Springs NT 0870
At Raytheon Australia we deliver high technology solutions and mission support to defence and government customers. A global leader in defence, government and commercial electronics, Raytheon is one of Australia's largest and most successful defence contractors... job alice springs…



www.cdu.edu.au...&CDUPress.pdf

Pine Gap opens up a new market
United States employees at the Pine Gap Joint Defence
Facility (JDFPG) near Alice Springs, and their families,
now have unprecedented access to Charles Darwin
University.
Under a new arrangement
with the University, US citizens
connected with JDFPG can
enrol in vocational and higher
education courses on the same
basis as Australian permanent
residents.
The University’s business
development manager, Ian
Towns, said Pine Gap families
form a significant percentage
of the Alice Springs community.
‘But the Alice Springs community
as a whole will benefit from the
broadening of the University’s
local student base.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by maxwellsdemon
reply to post by NTresident
 



But you made comments about 2 of the largest aircraft ever built that fly in 3 times a week,.. HMMM, something doesn't add up here if there are only 600 staff, thats a lot of food considering the size of the aircraft.


No, I said once a week because only once a week does one of the planes come in.
No food due to Australia's very tight quarantine restrictions. (ask anyone who tried to bring cheese, honey, bread or meat into Australia. Is always confiscated and destroyed)
And as I said earlier... they buy their groceries in town.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by maxwellsdemon
reply to post by NTresident
 

look for the people that get off the plane that don't sweat.


That would be the flight crew since they don't ever carry passengers. The lack of sweat is because out here in Alice Springs heat over 45 celcius in the summer, none of us sweat. Well we do, but you can't see it. The sweat evaporates near instantly in this low humidity (less than 15%). Dehydration is common amongst tourists who are not familiar with dry desert heat.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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The piece of paper I signed that you never have.
Which is standard SOP for military sites.
So I can't tell you much else, you have to find that out for yourself or "sign up" and do your duty for your country.

Happy Hunting

HADES



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by maxwellsdemon
reply to post by NTresident
 


The piece of paper I signed that you never have.
Which is standard SOP for military sites.
So I can't tell you much else, you have to find that out for yourself or "sign up" and do your duty for your country.

Happy Hunting

HADES

As I suspected. You have none.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by NTresident
 


Does this strike you as odd in any way?





Looks like a man made hangar/entrance or something.


Have you looked at that same spot on googleearth or earthflash? Aerial view is not suggestive of what you are suggesting.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Yeah I tried looking and couldn't see it. Maybe for the fact that it's built into the side of a mountain



posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by NTresident
 


Yeah I tried looking and couldn't see it. Maybe for the fact that it's built into the side of a mountain


Or maybe for the fact it is not a hangar.



posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 12:54 AM
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Proof? I never said it WAS, but prove your claim then. Go there and take a picture for me since you're closer lolzzz
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posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Your proof is that you have never worked for the military as you previously admitted, my proof is that I know what the "minimum" SOP's are. At a certain level DefC/SOPs are mandatory. (which is public knowledge I am using) regardless of O/S issues.

I can't give you any more proof than that, that's the piece of paper I signed, I can only use public information and extrapolate that from that so you can join the dots. I'm not stupid enough to tell you what I know,

If you want to know more about Pine gap, go to the local recruiting office and put on your uniform, or work for the alphabet soup agencies and get your clearance. Sit down with the boys in blue/grey/black.

And yet you still can't do a power input/output analysis either. I gave you your "publically" available hint. Research the NSA involvement. Which you have failed to mention, or ECHALON etc.

Go play hopscotch with the girls and get back when you can find something decent, or sign up and do your duty.

That's unless you are PsiOpsDisInfo. Pleb word for a PODIA.

It's an amazing world out there.

Happy Hunting

HADES



posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by maxwellsdemon
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Your proof is that you have never worked for the military as you previously admitted, my proof is that I know what the "minimum" SOP's are. At a certain level DefC/SOPs are mandatory. (which is public knowledge I am using) regardless of O/S issues.


Again, as expected... just unsupported words from you with no backing, evidence or credibility.



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