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Jehovah is an Evil God!!!

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posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Lilitu



I'm not Christian and most of G-d's rants deal with Israelites being hard.ed, not some narcissus complex in relation to humanity.


Oh I am not saying g0d suffers from NPD since I do not believe such an entity exists. The fact that the personality of the g0d of the bible shows severe personality disorders such as NPD and MPD to name two is merely a reflection of the fact that the psychotics who saw their hallucinations, heard their voices and made their contributions to the holey writ were quite off their meds.



I am not here to change your belief to Theism. You can look at the Bible from a Literary standpoint if you want.

Show me the examples of the Personality Disorders.

I can show you an entire species, humanity, who is completely psychotic. Bizarre anomalies are ignored, especially in relation to anything supporting a Dualist reality. Rather than be Agnostic and realize ultimately the average human doesn't really know anything, we retreat into our own selfish versions of faith or fanatical libertine Atheism.

The reality is, our Universe is violent and destructive. Physical processes and biological processes work at the expense of others. Change cannot exist without destruction. Various anomalies suggest a Dualist reality. Coming from an objective view, it would also suggest that a Creator would be seen as Dystheistic from humanity's point of view.

That is the real problem here, is facing the possiblity that a Supreme Being or Ultimate Reality is Dystheistic in relation to the Material Universe.

The Divine in the Tanakh, aka Old Testament, displays behavior that would be consistent with a percieved Dystheistic deity. One that doesn't place humanity, flesh, or the material universe first. One who doesn't place Humanity's thoughts, feelings and subjective reality on a pedastal. Humanity is in no position to complain about this lack of attention. We act like a bunch of psychotic, violent and disturbed little brats shouting for attention. Then when we dont understand or get our way, we blame everyone else but ourselves for our problems. We blame the Divine, we blame religion, we blame some mythical cosmic conflict between good and evil, and blame old men thousands of years ago who scribed some scrolls.

Thats why when people make statements like yours and the OPs it drives me crazy. People need to sit down and correlate information. No they are not going to like what they find or our position in it all, but its better than living in a deluded, selfish microcosm, thinking reality revolves around us, and where anything that contradicts our microcosm is ignored and ridiculed.




posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
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Yo man get a grip...God gives life and can very well take it away...Be glad hes let your a$$ live as long as you have...be grateful...thats why they were killed because they were ungrateful and worshipping idols.

Dont be talking trash bout my god homie. I wont stand for it.lol



You be greatful!!!!!! You want to crawl and be a slave to your Roman God,, you go right a. but don't you think for one moment that I will ever bow to such a MURDEROUS being!!!! I don't care what you call him he is not God!!!



posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Just because God is the creator of the universe doesn't mean that he can't grow as well and make mistakes. Hell, he made man didn't he? That seems like a mistake sometimes. I think in the long run what God is doing is evolving as we humans evolve. Maybe he acknowledge his errors and thus sent Jesus with a message of love to help us evolve as well.

[edit on 19-1-2008 by kyred]



posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by skyshow
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Don't you dare try to force me into your twisted belief system. Uh uh, my momma and daddy made me, not your one and only of the light thing...I'm not the one with the delusion sir, I'm quit certain that I know where I came from. My dad came inside of my mother, and the sperm fertilized the egg, they decided not to have an abortion, and soon, approximately 9 months after the fun, a baby was born. She was not a virgin, and neither was Marry.


First of all I have not tried to get you into my belief system but you are so angry toward YOUR GOD who you DO NOT KNOW. Without God there would have been no family history in your family tree and you and your parents would not have existed. Yes, you were born from your mother, but you cannot sustain life without God.


And pray tell, just how do you know I haven't spoken with God, or angels? Huh? Do you know this for a fact? Some of you people are so quick to judge...nowhere ever have I ever claimed to be an atheist. Never. I may be or I may not be, but quite frankly that is not your business.

You may not be an atheist but I can tell you because I do know, YOU HAVE NEVER MET GOD OR HIS ANGELS.



My point is if you people spent as much time and money as you do buying into this hooky and bogus crap,

This proves to everyone you do not know God.


maybe just maybe, we could begin to start fixing this messed up planet. Thus far, religion hasn't improved our lot much at all, if anything, looking back in history we see the reality of the situation, and that is it's a huge scam and it brainwashes the masses and controls them for political purposes.
Stop looking at religion and start trying to make a connection with God ON YOUR OWN, FROM YOUR HEART, NOT FROM BOOKS..

and yes I will say again, Your actions are shameful and disgraceful the way you are so angry toward God.

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posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by skyshow
That cross you so proudly display is a tool for capitol punishment...you worship the devise that ...

We have real problems occurring in the world today that we as humans need to address and fix. god, or gods, or whoever you people try make believe will save us all, so far are either asleep on the job, or never have shown up to work in the first place. Please people, put down your dead gods, and your idols, quit fighting over nonsense, and religion dogma...start helping to find solutions to our global problems and begin to enjoy one another and their differences in culture and foods...this religious insanity really needs to be abandoned. Think about it folks, For thousands upon thousands of years, religion has not delivered the goods--It never has, it's not now, and it ain't ever gonna...

Where is Jehova...sadistic murderer or not, where the hell has he and all these gods been???. My god people, start doing some thinking, use that brain of yours and wake up!


Just like you told LibertyForAll or Undo (not sure who it was), don't you "dare try" to "convert" us to YOUR "twisted belief system." Savvy? We're not interested in atheism. Too much evidence to the contrary.

I'm not going to barge into the UFO forums and tell those who have seen them or believe in them to quit believing just because I don't. I'm not going to go the paranormal forum and tell those who believe in ghosts or who have seen them they don't exist. Dig?

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posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by AshleyD

I'm not going to barge into the UFO forums and tell those who have seen them or believe in them to quit believing just because I don't. I'm not going to go the paranormal forum and tell those who believe in ghosts or who have seen them they don't exist. Dig?

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Your post is ignorant, their is no video footage of God, but their lots of footage on ufos. Its hard to reason with some one that has no sense. Keep on believing!!!!!

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posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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All religions are shadow puppet stories evolved over time by Man trying to make sense of his experiences. Information and disinformation, crafted works with control as their goal and effective power plays. Start to question... One or Many? Good? Evil? According to who? How Good? How Evil? Even if all my experiences were pleasure, then I would have to call the least pleasureable one painful.



posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by XcLuciFer
Your post is ignorant, their is no video footage of God, but their lots of footage on ufos. Its hard to reason with some one that has no sense. Keep on believing!!!!!


I probably should have used to the term "aliens" since I know there are semantics freaks running around ATS. But let's say there is a person who swears they saw an actual alien. I'm supposed to tell them they didn't see it or that it wasn't real because I haven't seen it? How arrogant! People claim God, angels, and demons are not real because they haven't seen it? That's equally arrogant.

And I've always loved the "video footage" argument. People, people. Video footage has only existed in recent times. There are other way to prove things than seeing it on video footage. Not saying there is "proof" of God world wide but yes- individuals have had actual physical experiences. That is their personal proof. You cannot tell someone who has seen or experienced this that it is not real because you have not experienced it. Pseudo intellectual skeptic arrogance is all it is.

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posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by XcLuciFer

You be greatful!!!!!! You want to crawl and be a slave to your Roman God,, you go right a. but don't you think for one moment that I will ever bow to such a MURDEROUS being!!!! I don't care what you call him he is not God!!!


Howdy do, again.


Okay, I want to offer you a personal challenge. I want you to quit mimicking the stuff you've read by others and actually read for yourself, what was going on when Yeshua (Jesus) came on the scene and left the scene and the follow up of Constantine's official religion.

1. There's nothing (and i mean this emphatically) to indicate that Yeshua was a Roman creation. This is supported by the following reasons:

--A. He was a jew not a roman. There was a big disconnect between these two groups as the jews were under the dominion of the pagan Roman Empire and had nothing in common.

--B. Almost all laws and rules regarding being Catholic in that timeframe are not in the bible. They were instituted by the popes and bishops, which was basically an integration of their former pagan approach to the gods, with a bit of yeshua info tossed in.

--C. There's nothing to indicate that the bible was even taught to the parishoners as most of them couldn't read it anyway, and there were very few copies, as they had to all be translated and written by hand. You try writing even one book of it, and you'll see the problem.

--D. Constantine was a smart man. When Yeshua's teachings became prominent and threatened the status quo, he usurped it, made it the official religion, hid the books and started making his own proclamations.

Yeshua was very pro-female. There wasn't a single religion or government on the planet, before he came here, that was pro-female. Yeshua didn't agree with vengence, so war would be like the last thing on his agenda.
There are so many things about him that aren't even remotely roman, it surprises me to hear anyone suggesting he was a roman concoction.



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 01:57 AM
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Well some of his teachings are similar to teachings of Plato's and other philosophers.

Also There were pro-female religions around and most had God's that were female.

In the bible it basically says women are suppossed sit down and shut up.

Although I know that's not what Jesus woud've wanted.








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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by Shawn B.
Well some of his are similar to teachings of Plato's.

Also There were pro-female religions around and most had God's that were female.

In the bible it basically says women are suppossed sit down and shut up.



It may say that, but that was not Jesus' approach. That was other people's ideas encroaching on Jesus' teaching.

And no, those were not pro-female governments or religions.
In Greece, women were considered part animal. Their female children were frequently killed at birth, as were the hindus and the buddhists Greece was a pederastic society. Look up pederasty. Roman Empire was based on it, but encouraged families moreso because family is what keeps a society aloft.
Judaism was not pro-female either.



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 02:44 AM
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The problem here is alot of supposition.

For example, an image of Yeshua (Jesus) as a baby on the lap of Mary, was compared to an image of some other pagan roman example. You have to insert into the event, that idea was evidence that jesus was a roman fiction. Babies have been sitting on the laps of their mothers for thousands of years. The concept is what was used, not the actual person of Jesus. It was a familar theme. Familar pagan themes were the focus of the Roman Empire's religions until Constantine highjacked and mangled christianity. To ease the people into it, the same types of themes were regenerated with Christ and the Apostles in the positions of various pagan gods.
A statue of apollo became a statue of an apostle.
A statue of a roman goddess became a statue of mary.

Mind you, Jesus was a jew who followed judaic law. He would not have went to temple on Sunday. He would've went on Saturday. He would not have encouraged people to erect statues to venerate. The focus was on the things of the Shekinah, the unseeen things, the things of the Spirit. The concept was during meditation to get your eyes off the flesh, its various demands and eye candy, and get your mind on the things of the Spirit. This did not require statues, rituals and so forth. It was quite simple and accessible by anbody, anywhere. Too easy i guess.



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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 06:54 AM
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oh, and truly what an awful and sadistic nasty evil creature that Jehova is....I'm so glad you pointed that out. By the way, I absolutely adore your avatar!


Also I would love to hear more about the gods that came before the Christian ones....regarding the post where you rightfully pointed out that today's believers have just walked in during the last ten minutes of the show...very interesting, and to think there was a story before the story...who would have thought?

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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 07:00 AM
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hey, yo, you quoted me, but without the credit. Who said I was an Atheist? You? Are you sure about that? How would you know? Not that "Atheist" is a dirty word, because in fact it is not. Not once did Jesus speak about an Atheist...or about a gay person....one would think that if it were all that important, as important as mainstream Christendom has made it be, that Jesus would have said something regarding it? hmmm. And let's say your mother for example got smacked out front in the streat by a mack truck...would you want a picture of the grill of that truck, blood and all, framed and hanging in your front room? Why would you want your most beloved depicted on the device that killed him? The cross is a capital punishment execution devise...many find it very morbid...many more find it strange that so many worship such an idol. I'ts very strange indeed. How do you explain that? How do you rectify the fact that the church(s) could melt down many of those gold and silver crosses and sell it market value and feed many hundreds, indeed thousands of hungry...but I guess it looks better at the alter huh? You think Jesus was all about this philosophy?

***bends over as the stones strike my naked back***

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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 07:56 AM
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You may not be an atheist but I can tell you because I do know, YOU HAVE NEVER MET GOD OR HIS ANGELS.


you must be god herself. Such bold statements from such an insignificant ant. Wow, I saw a bumper sticker once that you reminded me of. It said "Jesus, protect me from your followers".

I'll Pray for you, the next time I do, wich isn't often, because it doesn't correlate with any outcome, but still, sometimes I do, and mostly prayers of gratitude. May your god forgive your sinful and hateful soul and lead you away from evil and into salvation...May she shed light onto your dark and dreary spirit, and fetch about the nastiness and ill will that hovers around your essence. May she ultimately lead you away from bondage, and into freedom and so that you can finally one day be at peace. May she show you that love comes not from judgment, but rather from within.

You sir have no idea what you are talking about. How dare you say I don't know God, or that I am Angry at God, or that I am anything. You have no right to do that. This is why I made this prayer, and so that your god can maybe begin the cleansing process and purge those hateful demons and cast them out of you. You aught to be ashamed of yourself. Take the damn beam out of thine own eye. Just what the world needs, another judgmental thinks he knows it all, hateful Christian! Really, these people are to be pitied.

Pass the pepper and relish please, and can I have a few ice cubes to go in my cool-aide please?


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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 08:17 AM
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He is Occultist, this aint nothing though he is a BABY OCCULTIST! Madam Blavatsky, ALice A Bailey, Alister Crowley and many more Occultists have all said the same thing. Funny thing tough is they all call Satan GOD and Jehovah (which is not God's name) Evil, but this one wouldn't go that far, like I said this one is a baby occultist and doesn't know enough to speak. I won't even get into the multiple Bible Versions he used to quote from. Try the King James and a Concordance next time and you won't look so dumb.



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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That's curious. I wish I could reference the book that I read about the J and Z thing - but I have long since forgotten it (read it years ago). Whatever the case, the point is that there are mistranslations and misinterpretations galore of the bible and other sacred or ancient texts.



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 08:28 AM
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...this whole thread though is like walking knee deep in some very nasty polluted water, and with no shoes on either to protect your feet from broken glass. If it were me you were talking to, and you were referring to the one I was replying to as being the baby occultest...I think he has more problems than just low intelligence...and I don't mean to put him down, I just think he is lost in some kind of a fog. Who would actually come onto a blog forum and tell someone else that they don't know God, or haven't seen an angel, or that they have, or whatever...he doesn't me know from a brick of horse dung and I don't know him either, and wouldn't even begin to assume in a million years what he has experienced or has not....but it does add weight to my belief that religiosity fuels delusions of self grandeur and delusional behavior in general.

For those of you who want something to pray for. Pray for the day when the world will finally free herself from the oppressive bonds of religion. Religion may not be the only thing that oppresses us, but it's a start, and a significant one at that. Our survival as a species may very well depend on it!

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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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I wasn't speaking abou you but the original poster. He sounds like the Occultists in what he says, and I don't mean a little bit like them. He says some things word for word that Madam Blavatsky said and Alister Crowley so I was kinda wondering why he didn't go full out with he Occultist rhetoric. Then it dawned on me, he is a Baby Occultist and just starting to learn the trappings Occultism.

I would not disagree with the intelligence questions you raised either though.



posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 08:41 AM
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ah I see. I think it's all BS. Every last bit of it...from satanism, to Luciferianism, to the Trinity to every single last one of the dead gods, and idols, and all the golden crosses, and the plaster statues and all of this crap. And that's what it truly is, crap. We developed impericism to help us understand our world and to find ways to make things better. So far, and granted I think we have just etched away at the side of a huge ice burg, but so far it's got us a hell of lot further than anything coming out of the realms of religiosity or the occult and that's over thousands upon thousands of years.



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