Originally posted by jritzmann
Now I'll tell you why I think you don't want to accept this as an answer: You're emotionally vested. You want this to be, something, and no one is going to tell you different. Why? Because you feel your reputation or intelligence is on the line, if nothing else.
It isn't. And there's nothing wrong with saying "they got me", or "I'm wrong, it was..." or "I didn't realize...". We all do this. It's how ya learn and we're all constantly doing that.
JRitzman,
First and foremost, I respect your work here in the ATS Forum.
This case is a severe exception.
I'm not emotionally vested, I've made no claim to date on this video.
So here's my 2 cents. The member you are having an argument with believes that the object passed behind the clouds due to his/her visual observation.
I don't believe in 'Rods', I'm pretty certain they are bugs in general.
I don't believe this is a case of the bug/rod phenomenon.
Evidence tells me this. You see, I actually took the time to slow down the video, and did a screen capture of the place in the video where the 'object' does indeed pass behind the clouds. This image is below, with a 200% enlargment. I've labeled the image with the adjustments I've made, and the timestamp is clearly visible.
Now, no offense JRitzman, like I said, I really like what you do here at ATS, but if you were attempting to PROVE that the object passed in front of the clouds instead of behind it, why didn't you do this work?
I came into this argument not knowing, and did the work.
It sure looks to me (a NON-Rod Believer) that it's passing behind that cloud.
Let's let the personal crap drop on all sides, debunkers as well as believers. What does the evidence tell you?
I'm going with Missile or UFO, due to the Evidence displayed below (from the Raw Video on Youtube):
Now if you've got some Evidence to argue otherwise, I'd love to see it, and you can bet that if your Evidence proves your argument, I'll be your strongest supporter.





