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FLORENCE, S.C. - John McCain blamed overspending by the federal government in part for the nation's economic troubles as South Carolina voters Friday received the sobering news that the state unemployment rate had hit 6.6 percent, the largest one-month increase in nearly 20 years.
"As a Republican, I stand before you embarrassed. Embarrassed that we let that spending get out of control," the presidential candidate told voters on the eve of the state's GOP primary.
"The economy is not good. The stock market continues down. And the indicators are not good. I'm not too astonished. ... We let spending get totally out of control, and it continues today, and I'm sorry to tell you this," McCain said at a town-hall style meeting at the Carolina Hospital East Campus in Florence.
The Republican presidential candidate has voiced apprehension over proposals for temporary tax cuts and more spending as suggested by many Democrats and Republicans alike, saying they result in additional strains on resources. McCain has proposed cuts in corporate taxes instead from 35 percent to 25 percent, extension of Bush tax cuts, and elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax.
"People talk about a stimulus package. Fine, if that's what we want to come up with. But stop the spending first," he said.
South Carolina's unemployment rate jumped to 6.6 percent in December, the largest one-month increase since at least 1990, state employment officials said Friday.
The number of people without jobs rose nearly 16,000 to 142,800, the state Employment Security Commission reported. The total number of nonfarm jobs fell by 5,900 in December from the month before.
In a slip, McCain had to backpedal quickly when he was asked about his views on illegal immigration and responded that he had never supported "amnesty" and that "I've never supported Social Security for veterans." As some audience members gasped, McCain said, "Oops." Then, he corrected himself, "For illegal immigrants."
Every dollar spent should be a decision on who and what you're going to support.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
There are no more "local" grocery stores. Most people live in an urban/heavy suburban environment where farm markets are non-existant or token novelites. "Made In USA" products are extinct. You can't have a garden big enough to feed anyone in a studio apartment.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by Apsaroke
Every dollar spent should be a decision on who and what you're going to support.
It's too late for that. There are no more "local" grocery stores. Most people live in an urban/heavy suburban environment where farm markets are non-existant or token novelites. "Made In USA" products are extinct. You can't have a garden big enough to feed anyone in a studio apartment.
I am not saying you are wrong mind you. Just that the advice needed to be taken seriously 15 years ago, by the entire middle class.
Originally posted by frayed1
Originally posted by jackinthebox
There are no more "local" grocery stores. Most people live in an urban/heavy suburban environment where farm markets are non-existant or token novelites. "Made In USA" products are extinct. You can't have a garden big enough to feed anyone in a studio apartment.
While this is quite true, I have noticed a resurgence in local farmers' markets in the last couple of years......check around in your area.
Even if you live in a small apartment you can drive to ( make it a group effort and buy in bulk, saving gas and cash) a market where local growers sell their produce.
If your state distributes a 'Market Bulletin' , get one! ( In GA, it's an agricultural dept. publication, and it's free!!) It will list 'pick your own' farms, or other local growers that will sell right out of their gardens.
Originally posted by krill
well i happen to live in a area with no butcher, a super wallmart, a chain grocery store (that i cant afford to shop at) , a farmer market that only operates the 3 months in the summer and no transportation to anywhere thats able to provide the provisions you speak of. so what am i to do for me and my wife not shop at wallmart and starve? the closest town with a grocery store thats affordable is over 20 miles out of the way so seeing as my form of transport is a pair of hiking boots i dont see any choice for me but the soul stealing nwo puppet.
Originally posted by krill
Questions for you:
1) Do you live in an apartment or house? If Apartment: Do you have a balcony or patio? If house, what is your lot size?
i live in a 3rd floor walk up apartment, we have no patio or balcony and obviously no yard.
2) What public transportation options exist in your area? Here in TN, every county has public transportation. While pitiful, it still exists.
we have only a bus and thats dodgy at best and dosent go to the town with the needed grocery store, sadly i looked in to this option. but when i do go anywhere out of town i take the bus its quite nice realy its air conditioned and heated has a lil tv every few rows so you dont get board and only costs 1.10 to go any where it goes.its even clean and has comfy seats they use charter buses in my area.
3) Do you have any group affiliations? IE church or other social group? I ask this becuase with working with individuals who have disabilities, we have been very successful in identifying tranportation options for those unable to transport themselves. Sometimes, it's simply a matter of connecting those in need to the unidentified available resources. We have found many senior citizens who could use a couple of bucks in gas money that are willing to help provide transportation.
well first things first no im pagen as is my wife so no church help for us hell around here theyd rather stone us than accnowledge we exsist. as for other social groups there realy isent any i live in a very small town, me and my wife are both disabled and we have looked in to the diability transport here but they only transport to dr. and dentist visits. as for helpful neghibors thats kinda out of the question seeing as how as soon as they ask why i cant drive they never talk to me again. hell most wont talk to me anyway cuzz word has allready spread around town of "that psycho" from out of state.
4) You sound very rural in location based on your description of isolationism. How many major property owners exist in yur area? (In excess of 20 acres?) How many of them are raising cattle? We have found that many cattle farmer sin our area are more than willing to sell portions of their beef (IE 1/4 cow) and split it with you. These people typically know where to get their beef butchered at even if it is 100 miles or so away.
ok first off the closest cattle farmer is father then the good grocery store secondly the major property owners here all own small patches of woods and hills. and 100 miles is so far out of my way it might as well not even exist. as for canning or freezing i cant afford a secondary freezer so all my freezing is pretty much taken up by my standerd monthly food stuffs and if i could afford one id have no way to get it to my 3rd floor appt., as far as canning goes in the end thats more expensive then buying the cheap canned veggies. and seeing as me and the misses are both disabled and on a rather small fixed income every penny has to count hell the only thing i splurge on is buying soda instead of drinking water and even then it causes enought of a strain on the old money bag that the wife sometimes has to tell me i cant have any .
thank you for carring enough about a complete stranger to try and better his situation though. you have no idea how much it fills my heart to see some one who still cares about someone other then there own friends and familys .
No offense, Jack, but it only requires a bit of diligence and true effort to find these things.
Ground Beef Patties - 1lb.($9.50)
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by Apsaroke
No offense, Jack, but it only requires a bit of diligence and true effort to find these things.
Actually, I am offended that you assume I can afford...
Ground Beef Patties - 1lb.($9.50)
...as listed on the site you linked. And this doesn't include the delivery charge. Furthermore, there are millions of people in the city without access to such goods.
I'm living on ramen at this point anyway.
Storing in bulk is not possible in a studio apartment. Even less when you are "between homes."
Please don't misunderstand me. I think that anyone who can, should support their own local economy. Unfortunately, this is no longer a viable option for most of us. This is the result of a deliberate campaign to undermine the middle class. Even those who can afford to take the measures you suggest, simply don't have the time to do things like canning and gardening when they are working 70 hours a week.
I think you misunderstood me. My point was that within 10 seconds I could find a place supporting local farmers. If I were to put more time into looking for something, I'd probably stand a very good chance of finding something that would work for you and that is with hitting just the internet (the most expensive place to look). Just imagine what the possibilities are when you start applying networking between people. I found my egg guy through a friend at work whose mother had been buying eggs from this guy. And so on....
I'd love to be able to pop open a box of instant mashed potatoes and a set of pre-breaded chicken cutlets as opposed to peeling potatoes, dicing them, boiling them, mashing them and breading my own chicken cutlets, etc.. It's choices.