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Gates: US allies don't know how to fight insurgents

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posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 07:57 AM
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Gates: US allies don't know how to fight insurgents


www.mg.co.za

Deepening divisions within Nato over its military operations in Afghanistan emerged on Wednesday after Robert Gates, the United States Defence Secretary, said America's allies did not know how to fight insurgencies
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posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 07:57 AM
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Well now, we don't know how to fight! And our Defence Minister had the nerve to defend him.

Because you know, the Americans have done a bang up job in Iraq fighting the insurgency.

Wonder how he is going to feel about us when we end our combat mission in 2009?

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posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 08:37 AM
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Strange. I wonder what's the actual cause of this falling out. First Chertoff says Europe poses terrorism threat. Now Gates is saying you folk don't know how to fight insurgents.

I wonder what's going on behind the headlines.



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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Oh dear. If the esteemed Secretary of Defence would open a history book he would find that the British have been fighting insurgencies for... oohh... three centuries or more (before the United States of America existed). If he'd said this during the American Revolution then he'd have a point, but the British Army is probably the most experienced anti-insurgency force in the world by now with extensive experience across the globe. Africa, Asia, India, the Middle East, North America and closer to home in Northern Ireland. I'm sure the UK has picked up a trick or two along the way.

I imagine the State Department are loving this, having to patch up relations with some of America's closest allies. Pity poor Condi.


Good point too, Beachcoma. It does make you wonder if something is happening behind the scenes that we don't know about.

[edit on 17/1/08 by Ste2652]



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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Hmmmm


now 1 question ;

is the US preparing , slowly , to open warfare with Europe?



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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He's back peddling on his remarks now

news.bbc.co.uk...


He said his concern about such skills was directed at the alliance as a whole and not other member nations.


Um sure. He meant all of NATO sucks, not just Canada, Britian and the Dutch.

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posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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Precisely! The Yanks didn't know buggery about insurgencies until a few years back, even then they're answer to everything was "ATTACK!! ", which usually ended up with a bigger insurgency afterwards.



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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Helmand has seen some of the worst fighting in all of Afghanistan and, in my opinion, the troops from the UK, Canada and the Netherlands are doing NATO proud. Sadly, their efforts don't seem to receive the recognition they deserve.

What we need to remember is that NATO was set up for the purpose of deterring the USSR and its allies in the Warsaw Pact from attacking Europe and North America... not for fighting insurgency. NATO isn't defunct, but it does need to review its strategy and stucture to adapt to the demands of the 21st century.

Most successful insurgencies have been defeated through a single, unified strategy which takes both fighting the enemy and winning over local support as key priorities (since it becomes much harder for insurgents to operate if locals don't support their cause). We don't seem to be putting enough effort into the latter element, and the longer we neglect it means the harder it'll be to win.



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