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2002: NATO sacrifices Afghan children to detect land-mines: ex-German soldier

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posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 04:53 AM
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2002: NATO sacrifices Afghan children to detect land-mines: ex-German soldier


www.globalresearch.ca

Soldiers of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) have repeatedly used Afghan children to detect land-mines in war-ravaged country, said a former German ISAF officer in Berlin on Thursday.

ISAF soldiers threw apples on an area and then waited to see what would happen. If the children were to run to pick up the apples, and there was no explosion, the area was declared safe, according to Wohlgetan.
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posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 04:53 AM
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All's fair in love and war, right? Sickening if this is true.

www.globalresearch.ca
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 05:57 AM
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This piece of news comes from IRNA - 'Islamic Republic News Agency' - IRAN's official propaganda channel.

If true, it is sickening, but I think it is just propaganda.

Article on IRNA



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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Yea, im not too sure about this one. I would think mine detection has come a long way in the years of warfare, so I find it hard to believe they would sacrifice children to detect mines.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 08:37 AM
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Ahh, excuse me, but IRNA just reported on the book, as well as globalresearch. I am not going to dismiss the evidence provided in a book just because the IRNA reports on it.

I suppose you want to dismiss all these sources reporting the book too? This is just the first page of google search results on the book:


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You guys are shooting the messenger, and never even went and read the message. :shk:



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 09:35 AM
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Im certainly not going to ignore any cooberating evidence, but as you said most of those sources you sited are making refrence to the book soon to be released.

I think over all, we are going to have to wait to see any supporting evidence come forward, or buy the book.

My misconception was that this guys book was initially based on the IRNA report, in which case, the veracity of such claims would be in question.

Everyone makes mistakes i guess.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by InSpiteOf
I think over all, we are going to have to wait to see any supporting evidence come forward, or buy the book.


That might a good idea. But when someone goes to the trouble of writing and publishing a book about something, it at least should be given a look. Keep in mind the publishers have a stake in the validity of the information as well.


My misconception was that this guys book was initially based on the IRNA report, in which case, the veracity of such claims would be in question.


To a degree I agree, in that case. But even then, with all of crap that our own MSM publishes, and selectively, I like many others don't know who to believe anymore. That's why I find myself at sites such as ATS, alex jones, rawstory, and many others for alternative viewpoints.


Everyone makes mistakes i guess.


No problem man. Let's look at the evidence, and see if anyone else comes forward to corroborate this claim. After Abu Gharab, I don't put it past them.
What if they were under supplied? What if the mine detecting equipment was destroyed in a battle? I mean there could be many reasons for this atrocity that are not immediately evident.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
That might a good idea. But when someone goes to the trouble of writing and publishing a book about something, it at least should be given a look. Keep in mind the publishers have a stake in the validity of the information as well.


In theory, your absolutly right. But in this day and age of information wars, its hard to judge what is propaganda and what is distrubingly true. Often times, there is a thin line between the two.





No problem man. Let's look at the evidence, and see if anyone else comes forward to corroborate this claim. After Abu Gharab, I don't put it past them.
What if they were under supplied? What if the mine detecting equipment was destroyed in a battle? I mean there could be many reasons for this atrocity that are not immediately evident.


I have a hard time believing it, only because of my over-riding sense of humanity says its too sick to be true. But given our long history of distruction and distain for human life...its hard to say.

As for more evidence comming forward, i have a feeling its going to be hard to find much on this. This is the type of story that will get hushed as fast as possible.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 01:33 PM
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The operative word being "if". Very doubtful.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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I'm pretty skeptical, frankly.

This sounds like someone trying to make money selling a book, compounded by someone trying to score propaganda points.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 01:52 PM
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PLEASE, you put ANY faith-haha- in the "Terrorits Times"

Come on, we are trying to DENY IGNORANCE!!!!!!





posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
PLEASE, you put ANY faith-haha- in the "Terrorits Times"

Come on, we are trying to DENY IGNORANCE!!!!!!




And I'm trying to deny lack of reading.


Lol, scroll up and read mrmonsoon!

[edit on 16-1-2008 by TrueAmerican]



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