100% PROOF of Controlled Demolitions @ WTC, page 5
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reply posted on 21-1-2008 @ 11:55 PM by OrionStars
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to
post by IvanZana



Hello,

Interesting...no time reference provided. Only two 'booms'...they sounded very similar, actually to sonic booms. If you've ever heard one, you would remember that it is a double boom sound...with almost that same timing. I daresay the military was not worried about going supersonic over land on that day...


It became obvious they were not worried about protecting the US that day either. Would that be the same military jets not worried about protecting us citizens, and, instead, more worried with being able to continue playing anti-terrorism war games on 9/11/2001?

You can continue to rationalize your way through the "official" reports, plus make it up as you go along, or begin to use logical reason to recognize all the severe inconsistencies in the "official" reports. Only you can make the desicion which one appeals most to you.


reply posted on 22-1-2008 @ 12:10 AM by OrionStars
reply to post by talisman



How about molecular disintegration all the way down, including almost all steel?



reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 07:18 AM by ANOK
Originally posted by Reality Hurts
You are a broken record about physics, which doesn't even remotely have anything to do with any of my posts.


Ignore me if you wish I couldn't care less, I've been ignored by the best.

How does my question not have anything to do with your posts? The lack of resistance is a MAJOR point in regards to the thread topic, '100% proof of controlled demolition'. I asked you the question, in regard to a post you made, because it is extremely important to the whole context of the WTC collapses. Because until you can justify the lack of resistance any other argument you have is a waste of time. Any other point of the collapses you can refute does not change the fact that the buildings, all 3, fell with no sign of friction/resistance in accordance with the laws of physics... (as well as other laws such as 'conservation of momentum', but just one is enough)

Friction is the resistive force acting between bodies that tends to oppose and damp out motion. Friction is usually distinguished as being either static friction (the frictional force opposing placing a body at rest into motion) and kinetic friction (the frictional force tending to slow a body in motion). In general, static friction is greater than kinetic friction.

The force due to kinetic friction is generally proportional to the applied force, so "a coefficient of kinetic fiction" is defined as the ratio of frictional force to the normal force on the body.

The study of friction is called tribology.


Source

Yes I'm a broken record, and yes I can see I'm annoying you with my persistence to get you to make a statement regarding the lack of resistance.

If you know my posting history you are about the eighth person who I've gone through this with, and guess what? Every one of them acted in the same way you have, failure to jump to the challenge and half a dozen posts dodging the subject. I mean you have all done your research right? You are all convinced the official story is correct, right? So why can’t you answer this simple question and shut me up? C’mon when has anybody on ATS ever not answered a question when they know the answer? You want to keep it secret from me? Just admit you don’t know, how about that, a bit of honesty?

But then you would have to admit the official story has not explained the collapses, right? Can’t be allowing any doubt to creep in now can we?...

People want to complicate the collapse argument with irrelevant crap when the simple truth is right in front of us. Regardless of what fantasy theory you believe in as to how the towers collapsed, it wasn't from aircraft impacts, office fires or gravity. None of those have the energy to overcome friction and resistance. Why do you think NIST failed to explain the collapse beyond its initiation, and then tried to convince people the complete collapse was inevitable once initiated? Anyone with any common sense can see that is just garbage.

I’m bugging you for a reason, and I hope people can see why...


reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 11:31 AM by Griff
reply to post by IvanZana




Nice video. Let's look at it side by side.





Yup. No similarities there. /sarcasm.

So much for the "demolitions have to be bottom-up demolitions" argument. Eh?

I'm looking for the quote by the "expert" in demolition that says the towers couldn't have been CD'd because it was top-down and not bottom-up. Anyone have that?

Here's something interesting.

The basic idea of explosive demolition is quite simple: If you remove the support structure of a building at a certain point, the section of the building above that point will fall down on the part of the building below that point. If this upper section is heavy enough, it will collide with the lower part with sufficient force to cause significant damage. The explosives are just the trigger for the demolition. It's gravity that brings the building down.


science.howstuffworks.com...

Sounds exactly like what we saw. No?


reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 11:56 AM by OrionStars
When buildings are blown from the bottom only, they could end up looking like this:

www.youtube.com...

Or this:

www.youtube.com...

Or this method, though often quite inefficient, has been known to work when all other methods are removed from the feasibility equation:

www.youtube.com...

This is what happens when primary vertical supports are removed from the primary horizontal loading bearing supports directly above them:

www.youtube.com...


reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 12:28 PM by spacevisitor
reply to post by IvanZana



Thanks IvanZana for those videos.
I watched them all, but for me, it doesn’t matter anymore how many more videos will be showed.
I see over the years dozens of them, so my mind is already made up
Definitely controlled demolition, absolute no doubt about that.



reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 11:32 PM by IvanZana
JEROME HAUER

Jerome Hauer is best known for being the director of the Office of Emergency Management (OEM) when he made the decision to build a $13 million crisis center on the 23rd floor at 7 World Trade Center. This crisis center was unveiled in June 1999, and became the subject of tension between the agency and the Police Department, whose own command center at 1 Police Plaza had until then been the focus of emergency preparedness operations.

As the first director of the new crisis center, "one of Hauer’s first tasks was to find a home for an emergency command center to replace the inadequate facilities at police headquarters," according to the Times.


Reports indicate that the OEM crisis center at the World Trade Center was not being used on 9-11 by the usual personnel. The center had been temporarily relocated to Pier 92 on Manhattan’s West Side, due to a FEMA drill which was supposed to begin on the day after 9-11, according to statements made by Mayor Giuliani. The site was immediately controversial because it was part of the trade center, which had already been the location of a truck bomb attack in 1993. City officials, though, including Mr. Hauer, have long defended their decision, even after the command center had to be evacuated during the 2001 terror attack. The OEM crisis center in WTC 7 is suspected as being the control center for the pre-planned demolition of the towers. The center, and all of the evidence of the crime, was destroyed when the 47-story tower was completely demolished at about 5:25 p.m. on 9-11
en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 14-2-2008 by IvanZana]


reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 05:12 PM by billybob
i swear wikipedia is nothing but a cleverly disguised GATEKEEPING SITE!




jerry hauer says rudy didn't take his recommendations to NOT put the stinking demolition command bunker, er, emergency command bunker in WTC7.

rudy just wanted somewhere he COULD WALK TO!

transparent evil.
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