One other question I would like to ask.

According to Christianity, those that do not believe in Jesus will suffer, right? (I'm not trying to slander your religion here, but that is correct, am I right?).

So what about everyone that does not have a chance to become Christian? What if they are not exposed to Christianity? Not every country is filled with Christians as is the case in America, so what about many countries on the Eastern part of the world, such as in Asia? What if they are good people? Are they destined to burn in hell because of something that is entirely not their wrongdoing? How do you justify their fate after life?

Furthermore, what about those whom were born before the birth of Christianity? They followed their religions practices and customs, many of which oppose the laws of Christianity. Were they thrown in Hell, too, because they were not faithful believes of Jesus?

~Greg

Originally posted by Clearskies
Are you an atheist?
If so, you are proving the op's point.

It's funny because at the beginning of this thread several atheists came forward and said they 'hope' there is a conspiracy to overthrow religion...

Now seriously, I pointed this out. Many times. And what did the atheists say? "That doesn't mean anything."

Whatever you say. I acknowledge that there are extremist Muslims and Christians but the Atheist cannot acknowledge the aggression of his own brothers.

Originally posted by morgul
According to Christianity, those that do not believe in Jesus will suffer, right?

No. Jesus said all Men can know 'God' in their hearts. All people can know and give love... the absence of love is what causes suffering. To know nothing of love or kindness or 'higher thought' is suffering... Buddha teaches the same concept. Lack of understanding leads to suffering... not lack of Christianity.

All religion and science is a gesture towards higher knowledge... higher knowledge is something that has to be strived for. If a person does not strive for knowledge, do they not suffer because of it?

Originally posted by riley

Originally posted by Clearskies

Originally posted by dk3000
A conspiracy of atheists to over-throw Christianity?

God, I hope so. The reason for my hope is that many Christians are so misled by their ministers and such....Poof!

Are you an atheist?
If so, you are proving the op's point.

Not really. Someone saying "I hope so" doesn't prove atheists are conspiring.. might prove he/she doesn't like christianity though.

[edit on 30-3-2008 by riley]

Riley- you have been paying attention! That'll get you into trouble

And for all in here- in my own words- I am about as far from athiesm as you can get and equally as removed from Christianity.

Jmdewey60 I would love to read your post before it got removed- I gave you a star anyway and another for coming back after you were slapped for opening your "big" bile filled mouth! Much can be learned from angry response- this is not allowed because of political correctness and trying to please everybody all the time. I have lost many points and probably their have been table discussions as to whether or not to ban my account completely. I do not know if this is true- but I think someone high up is looking out for me and is a closet fan of mine. My point is- you show grace, courage and enlightenment by returning with humility- and this proves to me- that you do not need Christianity to find a better way!

Clearskies- I am not an atheist and nor am I trying to prove the OP's intent via my posted comments. I have an opinion and that is all and it is what it is based on my experiences. The Creator is very much in my heart mind and soul and because of my experiences with Christianity I nearly lost this priceless and most important connection.

Being there is a "conspiracy" for everything these days, I thought I would pop in here having read the thread and several comments. My comment was what it was and is.

btw, bigwhammy's picture of the starving baby looks like a little mini Ahmadinejad. Now this can be seen as funny, crude, witty, cruel, mean, evil or any number of things- but it is exactly what came to mind when I saw it. Would I climb a mountain to save this baby- truth be told- I would climb mount Everest to save that child and that has nothing to do with being a Christian or an atheist - it is because that is my particular brand of human nature and I am far from alone.

There is a conspiracy of Christians over-throwing atheism and there is likely a conspiracy of atheists to over-throw Christianity.

My original comment in here was a reflection of my take on the issue. That is all it was.

Here is an interest piece of evidence if anyone is reading this comment. Christianity is capitalized in the editing tool, however atheism is not. Add a capitalized spelling of Atheism will not work or function unless it follows the appropriate punctuations or is the beginning of a sentence- wear as christianity is always capitalized regardless of grammar. Looking at the word right now- it has a little red line under it warning me of its importance and relevance in its insatiable need to be more important that I feel it is. So I will type it again- christianity. Another red line. Now for atheism- nope no funny red line- I guess I must have spelled atheism correctly and used it properly.

While we all discuss issues- it is being decided for us what is and what is not important. Our bickering simply keeps us busy entertaining all the BS as the real important issues are being decided!

IMO of course

Bigwhammy....you may have missed some of my last post as I was doing some editing. Why don't you go back and read. Why don't you go back and read that pie chart. It clearly states that 8% are Atheist and you purposely mis-read it.

Non-religious is not the definiton of Atheist. Nice try.

Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Why is so hard to understand that just because you aren't in on it, doesn't prove there is no conspiracy???

I kind of gave up trying to prove that point. For some reason, they think just because not every atheist under the sun is in on it, it must not be occurring. Not sure how to get the definition of a conspiracy to sink in.