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Is There A Conspiracy Of Atheists To Overthrow Christianity?

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posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
...yeah, now you're just grasping at things from your rectum...


99% of Atheists are giving the rest a bad name.
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others Madd

Or it could be the lusting to expand the range of my shared experience with the aforementioned “rectum”, in which case I would say “I’m flattered” but unfortunately,, for you,, I am not gay so please,,, Or, did I miss something and you got so upset , so angry, so utterly out of control you are trying to insult me?

Umm mmmm whats the word Atheists use when ones critical thinking is in critical condition?? Oh yeah,,,

AD HOMINEM??

The Bible says, When Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, they gained the knowledge to distinguish good from evil, and they passed this ability on to all their kin. Therefore, even atheists should know good from evil, and how to avoid evil if they so desire
I realize. You’re only young once, but you can be immature forever. = )




That reason and freethought should get rid of the regressive movement towards medieval Muslim caliphates and theocratic Christian states?
yes, I do
i believe that people should learn to think critically instead of being brainwashed into submission
...but that's the thing, the thinking critically part is the core of it. It’s not a conspiracy to overthrow Christianity at all, if anything it would be a conspiracy to let people see all sides of the issue and get their own say


Ya know madd,, YOU might think you know what a conspiracy isn’t but I am going to have to explain that it only takes two people to conspire for a mutually agreed upon objective. I have given you enough data for prima facie proof that Atheism has every intention to usurp Christianity with a well thought out methodical set of steps. Much like they have with getting control of the NAS. The way they are trying to remove Christmas and bring in the winter solstice. Yes tis true. The way they have bastardized separation of powers using Jefferson’s letter when there is no such separation of Church and State. The way they tried to slip the Tripoli treaty in their but it finally got changed.

The same way Atheists lie about their numbers to enjoy the benefits of being that minority so that separation of church and state gives the smallest minority ALL the say.

The way they are actively disbelieving in God 24/7 when know body really wants to hear about their hyper embellished oppression baloney as if they were the ones fighting against slavery. You suddenly have all started saying things in circular semantics so that what we all see them doing, we won’t be able to actually hold any movement, group, religion, association etc; accountable. The all sing the same song though. Wrapped in as many anecdotal childish insults to ridicule those who REJECT the spiritually blind and arrogantly deaf and dumb tenets of Atheism’s alleged genetically superior brains, they have begin studying the brains of people. Not just any people,, CHRISTIAN people.

I see this as part of the plan to put more dis information out their until Atheist can have the ACLU petition courts to force families to raise their kids the ATHEIST WAY.



Still think religion isn’t a brain disorder?[\b]

Anyway, that was elucidating an analogy I don't agree with it at all. Pinning acts of the mentally deficient on their influences is spurious logic. It's the same as hysterical mothers blaming teen violence on D&D, then on movies, and now on video games, because a handful of mentally deficient kids are influenced by these things and commit acts of violence. And if you are sympathetic to that pile of crap about the link between violent media and violent kids, then how about taking the analogy to it's extreme with disgusting ideas like homosexuality spreads AIDS, or blacks cause crime. The demographic overlaps of homosexuality, race, and religion with AIDS, crime, and violence are coincidences of society, not causes and effects.

I disagree entirely. Have you ever heard of something called the Jerusalem Syndrome? It's a relatively rare occurrence wherein people, usually males, visit Jerusalem, an suddenly imagine that they are Jesus. It is believed that David Koresh suffered from this before instigating the Waco incident. If the seed of religion was not already planted in their minds, they may very well fall prey to some other delusion, but that in no way excuses religion.

Furthermore, I did qualify my statement in the original post by saying that these delusions seemed to manifest themselves in vulnerable people, but again, if the bible didn't have a specific command to cut off your right hand if it offends you on the premise of it being better to enter heaven maimed than go to hell (an implicit threat of eternal punishment), this man likely would not have felt compelled to cut his right hand off with a circular saw.

Finally, when dealing with statistics, particularly in the field of psychology, there is practically never a case of clear causation. It's always a matter of correlation, and a positive correlation does not have to be excessively high to be considered statistically significant. I feel that the case for religion having detrimental effects on people's mental health can be made with certainty that there is a positive correlation between excessive religiosity and delusions resulting in violence to oneself or others.

www.rationalresponders.com...


If you cannot convince them, confuse them. Every absurdity has a champion who will defend it. You know I am not playing by the same silly rules you do when they keep changing the way they say it happens every time someone finds a gaping hole in the nescience of evolution. This is YOUR people talking about the only thing they ever talk about and that’s US!

Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.

Atheists have made us the topic of their every discussion, they are so preoccupied attacking our Bible with discontextual so called contradictions, making movies called “The God that wasn’t there” which is the same lies that have been debunked so may times it is obvious Atheists are just trying to start a fight with Christianity and Christians.

Then there is that ignorant “Blaspheme” contest on youtube. I mean,, when are they going to grow up and get a damn life and quit trying to ruin ours.

It‘s not like they will get anywhere but hated. Then you all can complain why you guys don’t get voted into office. It’s because Hate generalizes and love is particular. All I see Atheists doing is creating as many enemies as they can, BECAUSE THEY WANT US TO KNOW THEY ARE SO SMART!




... Here’s what i said:
gorillas are apes but not all apes are gorillas
Humans are apes but not all apes are humans
we share a common ancestor with gorillas, but gorillas aren't our ancestors.this shows how much attention you were paying in biology.


No, it shows how desperate you are to find a flaw in my statement

Like the original post that said we came from “Magilla Gorilla” I see,, intelligent design is no match for natural stupidity, or what ever they call it. The point is Madd ,, IT WAS FACETIOUS . There is NO Genus Magilla Gorilla.

Don't believe everything you think.


i just pointed out your lack of understanding of evolutionary theory... to which you yelled out talking points that are easily dismissed
it has been proven, that's why it's a theory instead of a hypothesis.

so i don't think you really have enough of a grasp of the subject to understand any proof of it.


No you just gave me your opinion, YOU AREN’T A SCIENTIST ,, Hell Most of you don’t have time for Jobs you’re so “actively disbelieving in God” Evolution Started with a hypothesis THEN they built a theory around it! Sort of like every goal and objective they aim for,, The shoot an arrow at the side of a barn and walk up paint a target around it and say “SEE , RANDOM CHANCE”



...no, i don't. i've never used an example of internet stupidity as any evidence for anything


Well,, with all due respect Madd,, I have seen your posts used for just that type of example on other Atheist websites.



exactly, children shouldn't be indoctrinated; it's abusive


Some people better quit assuming they know the difference,, because OBVIOUSLY,,

YOU DON’T



...wow, i think i found the massive hole in your bigotry


Oh make no mistake madd,, after seeing how Christians are being setup to be lab rats while they all you that same slogan “Treat the Christians with extreme prejudice, ridicule them, harass them into better behavior”

It’s like I said, to, me,, they are “just a punch in the face waiting to happen” if they think they are going to ridicule me with their “in your face” A- evangelism


This is the best advice Atheism can get from ANYONE.


Tyson has made some very disturbing comments of late. He is the reason I refuse to watch PBS’ Nova Science Now series (he’s the new host for this year.) I would urge others to boycott the show as well. This is further proof that deep down, I think, most Darwinists believe what they constantly claim isn’t the case. That undirected, purposeless, goal-less Darwinism equals atheism. That is THEIR goal- more atheists.

You will also note the liberal connection as well. They basically liken being religous to being an idiot, or being a pedophile…or being Republican. I’ve noticed that conservatives are usually not on the Darwinist side of the issue, but rather are more connected to a telic process- that the world DOES have meaning and you are NOT an accident.

Very troubling that Tyson would openly say his goal is to convert people to atheism with science. I can tell you one thing- I will never visit the Hayden Planetarium as long as he’s around. It’s amazing that this is what “science” has come to in our lifetimes.

www.uncommondescent.com...




Demonstrate to me that atheists commit more acts of hate speech than Christians do or shut up with this talking point.


Please don’t tell me to shut up in the same post you have told me I get my ideas from my rectum and called me childish twice,, frankly Madd,, you really don’t have the room to criticize. I know the vulgarity gives the illusion that you are making a strong point but you may want to try using caps. Don’t worry,, I can’t hear them

Well guess you are going to have to replace that free thinking with some good old fashioned DISCIPLINED THINKING.



honestly, this kind of sort of falls into the category of mild hate speech... saying a categorical remark about atheists and how horrid they are when you can't prove it...



I thought you were just spiritually blind but,, did you not see the posts?
That’s right,, you’re an atheist,, we have a totally different set of standards on morality I'm afraid. One factoid you can take solace in if you think my establishing the truth about Atheism is hate speech.,,

Ya know that freedom of speech? Well with it comes the freedom NOT TO LISTEN. Might want to remember that, k thx




ah, mister word twister
he never said that he said some people might have beliefs dangerous for us to kill them for it...did he ever say that christians fall into this category?
No


Madd I don't care if he was talking about Charles Manson,, IT WAS A REALLY IDIOTIC IDEA BUT TYPICAL OF LENINIST LOVERS. Communists. And Now Atheists.

Oppps they were the communists.


provide me evidence that shows that the average atheist is a bad person
If you don't have any, you're a bigot


No one is righteous, a not one and all have fallen short for man was born with an evil nature. Umm You would be right though,, if Atheists have taught me anything, it is to not vote for them and never trust them. So far,, I haven’t met a one that didn’t start calling me stupid the moment they find out I have an “imaginary friend”




you haven't provided proof of anything more than immaturity on the internet.


And what have your posts to me been,,
the Alternative?



...a lawsuit to protect freedom of speech is now frivolous?
And you don't have to shout, there's a bold and italics feature that will create just as much emphasis.


It’s frivolous for a convicted Atheist Pedophile to sue the Supreme Court so he can be given conjugal visits with the small boys he likes to “indoctrinate with his superior Atheists parenting plan. THEY DON’T HAVE ANY RIGHTS.




...no, it's because you don't understand evolution


That’s because I don’t believe in *Poof* MAGIC or pretty much any perversion of Science. Evolution was a scam from DAY 1 and that is the dirty secret that Aheists want to keep hidden from the public. Since they want to play games and spread lies. Then TWO can play that game and if you think Atheist have a reason to get angry,,, just wait and see why all this stuff that effeminate con artist atheist Dawkins Hitchens who is so pickled in Vodka and cigarettes most of the time he is seething in his own juices of hatred, then we have Sam Harrissssss.

His name even hissses when you say it.

He is a legend in his own mind running on a trailer trash scholarship of phony motives suggesting the most despicable lies to justify the most vile vulgar of ideas he has every intention of gradually becoming more acceptable as a means of dealing with the very people that remind him of the God he hates.
daily of his selfish pride, his godless useless meaningless pathetically pitiful existence. Such a waste of God given talent to think he would use it against the very one that put it in his spirit.

They wanted to ridicule Christians?? Real BAD IDEA

All they have done is awaken a sleeping giant and have made Christians start reading their Bibles again because of Atheists. You people think Christianity will implode?? Naah We will have as many videos of Darwin and his many many ad Hoc attempts, manufactured phony evidence to keep that most easily debunked, spuriously fraudulent fake theory from being falsified. Of all the Scientists in history, NO ONE has more people following in a false sense of intelligence , majoring in minors over the most fallaciously fabricated foibles of fictional science in the history of man. You might as well have been a Scientologist. There is only one reason I can see anyone buy into that garbage junk science and one reason alone. That would be as a tool to make God irrelevant.

Now we know why Atheism is and why they have always felt irrelevant.. While No one I have seen works harder to actively disbelieve God as Atheists nd they do it because HE IS IN THEIR MIND, HARD CODED and they are trying to drive him out. Yet they say WE have the meme LOL. The Movie The Double Life of Darwin will do for evolution what supersize me did for fast food. By the way,, its looking more like those terrorists were Jewish Atheist and not muslims during 911. I figure it’s probably true but if it’s not Ill still pass it along as fact

Just like Atheists do with the Holocaust not happening, that Jesus never existed or denying their Godless Societies have murdered more millions of people then all Religions has combined. They will remind all that Atheists are no smarter then other in spite of what Sam Harris tells them, they are NOT Scientists NOR will they be allowed to discuss the Neurology of Theism as a brain disorder, as if they are all experts all of a sudden. www.rationalresponders.com...

I don’t think giving Christians that goody goody reputation to live up to while Atheists continue to rip on them is going to work anymore. Go ahead, try with me ,, like they’ve done before, saying nice way for a Christian to talk.

Atheists think they know so much,, with their dogmatism of Atheism Materialism and Communism Ideology. Sure their may be milder more decent secularist humanists but that doesn’t excuse Atheists current assault on ALL Religions. Sound Familiar?

If this sounds like Bigotry,, let make this clear, I don’t hate Atheists,, frankly,,

They aren’t that important.

Deep in that brain where God hardwired his copyright to his creation his intellectual property so Science couldn’t call it Natural Stupidity copy it then use it in their own creations praising it as Genius . That Copyright is the meme that haunts each and every atheist to act out in passive aggressive gestures not knowing who to blame their whole miserable lives on. So they have blamed Christians while they keep repeating in their minds “ I don’t believe in God, I don’t believe in God”

Well Christians do

I suggest rather then try to change that to fit their Communist, Darwinist, Atheist, worldview, they CHANGE THEMSELVES and the whole world will have a better view.



Wow...
insults abound with you


Just be glad I am not getting them from my rectum




actually, i love being wrong
when i've found out i'm wrong, i've learn something new.


Well I’d say you’ve missed a lot of opportunites then

Sheesh

- Love Con
The topic for the debate?





[edit on 21-3-2008 by Conspiriology]




posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 06:26 AM
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*Rea... [Tires screech to a halt, the record scratches, and I spit my drink out all over the computer screen]

Oh, dear child.

I wish my double take had been caught on camera for that bit.



Do you actually have anything to add or just childish nonsense? Christians have been killing Pagans, Jews, Atheists, Muslims, etc....ever since they formed the bogus religion.

Christians are the ones all hot and bothered by people that don't believe what they believe. I've never had an atheist shove his/her beliefs down my throught but the crazed bible thumpers work on it daily. "If you don't take Jesus as your savior you're not going to be saved!" blah blah blah....

Christians need to look at their own behaviors. Atheists didn't spend centuries destroying whole races of people in the name of Jesus.



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 08:52 AM
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i don't really have the stomach or character limit to address all of your points, but i'm just going to go with the most glaringly ignorant stuff.

first here comes the context police


Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

Originally posted by Conspiriology
THE FBI DOES and they were very interested in 42 of the sites I sent them information on 7 came down so far. Ill work on the rest. I feel it's my civic duty


...yeah, now you're just grasping at things from your rectum...no evidence for anything here, only that people on the internet are stupid, regardless of point of view...


and here's what you said


99% of Atheists are giving the rest a bad name.
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others Madd


insult.



Or it could be the lusting to expand the range of my shared experience with the aforementioned “rectum”, in which case I would say “I’m flattered” but unfortunately,, for you,, I am not gay so please,,,


questioning my sexual identity (which also betrays homophobia)



Or, did I miss something and you got so upset , so angry, so utterly out of control you are trying to insult me?


no, i'm pointing out that your point is entirely made up.
especially since the FBI doesn't take down websites for hate speech...stormfront seems to be going strong after all this time of being essentially a pure hate site...

and oddly enough, here's your next statement


Umm mmmm whats the word Atheists use when ones critical thinking is in critical condition?? Oh yeah,,,

AD HOMINEM??


an accusation that i'm using an ad hominem attack...when i was simply addressing that your point was entirely fictitious (though in a comedic manner)

...and then you accuse me of being immature.
how sweet



The way they tried to slip the Tripoli treaty in their but it finally got changed.


treaty of tripoli never got change. it remains saying that the USA was in no way founded on the christian religion.


Then there is that ignorant “Blaspheme” contest on youtube. I mean,, when are they going to grow up and get a damn life and quit trying to ruin ours.


the blasphemy CHALLENGE is a way for people to demonstrate that they aren't afraid of religion.
...it has nothing to do with your life. in fact, you can ignore it by simply not watching the videos.

...and there's another ad hom attack in there...


No you just gave me your opinion, YOU AREN’T A SCIENTIST ,,


...so?
being a scientist would only mean that i have more scientific experience
explaining a theory doesn't require a degree.



Hell Most of you don’t have time for Jobs you’re so “actively disbelieving in God”


...wow, another ad hom attack
can you provide any evidence for this, or is it just more slander?




Evolution Started with a hypothesis THEN they built a theory around it!


oh my lord
oh wait...that's just like every other theory that's ever existed in the scientific community
all theories start out as a hypothesis...that's the scientific method for you.
please, learn more about science before you attack it.


Well,, with all due respect Madd,, I have seen your posts used for just that type of example on other Atheist websites.


again, ethereal claims that you cannot substantiate
...especially since such usage would kind of sort of violate copyright issues
....and i didn't even know anyone was using my posts in this manner

so, will you attempt to substantiate the claim?



Oh make no mistake madd,, after seeing how Christians are being setup to be lab rats


...you aren't.
lab rats are the ones being set up to be lab rats



while they all you that same slogan “Treat the Christians with extreme prejudice, ridicule them, harass them into better behavior”


...most of us actually don't like that idea. i've talked to some atheists about it and none have taken a liking to it.
...ok, one did, but he was once worked over by some guys who had just come from a bible study in his small town where he was the only one that didn't go to church, so it's kind of understandable.



It’s like I said, to, me,, they are “just a punch in the face waiting to happen” if they think they are going to ridicule me with their “in your face” A- evangelism


more of your silly machismo that shows how little of an argument you have.

here's another thing i said:


Demonstrate to me that atheists commit more acts of hate speech than Christians do or shut up with this talking point.


...a request that you dodged.



Please don’t tell me to shut up in the same post you have told me I get my ideas from my rectum and called me childish twice,,


no, i said you pulled one thing out of your rectum because i was saying it's entirely fictitious...and you could have easily fired back by proving your claim instead of doing what you've done.

and your arguments are childish, that's fairly straightforward. you've acted quite childish over the course of this response to my response.
hell, you've even questioned my sexual identity, which is quite the display of adolescent immaturity.



frankly Madd,, you really don’t have the room to criticize. I know the vulgarity gives the illusion that you are making a strong point but you may want to try using caps. Don’t worry,, I can’t hear them


...i'm not really that vulgar.
i hit quite hard without the rectum comment



Well guess you are going to have to replace that free thinking with some good old fashioned DISCIPLINED THINKING.


and what does any of this have to do with your point that atheists produce more hate speech than theists?

please, substantiate the claim or stop making it.



I thought you were just spiritually blind but,, did you not see the posts?
That’s right,, you’re an atheist,, we have a totally different set of standards on morality I'm afraid.


...no, we really don't
actually, are standard tends to be slightly higher, as we can't excuse our acts as being something a god told us to do
and we can't ask anyone but those we've harmed and ourselves for forgiveness

and can you show me evidence that atheists are less moral than theists?



One factoid you can take solace in if you think my establishing the truth about Atheism is hate speech.,,


...it isn't the truth about atheism
there are 1001 and 1 problems with that site both in terms of fact and logic...
in fact, it's hate speech against both atheists and jews...how they manage to pull it off is kind of incredible in the worst way

i give you a suggestion: read hitchens "God Is Not Great" and you'll see a proper response to the communism point that i just don't feel like summing up here

or you could not have an open mind.



Madd I don't care if he was talking about Charles Manson,, IT WAS A REALLY IDIOTIC IDEA BUT TYPICAL OF LENINIST LOVERS. Communists. And Now Atheists.



...it was an idea in the context of philosophical discussion
...and he even said "may"
he never said it was something that was necessarily true



Oppps they were the communists.


...not all communists were atheists
and not all atheists are communists (far from it)


Umm You would be right though,, if Atheists have taught me anything, it is to not vote for them and never trust them. So far,, I haven’t met a one that didn’t start calling me stupid the moment they find out I have an “imaginary friend”


and yet you have nothing to substantiate your outright bigotry against atheists

you've even repeatedly called us a "punch in the face waiting to happen"

side note: most of my friends are christians
in fact, my 2 closest friends who are like brothers to me are very devout christians (one even wants to be a youth minister)
hell, my girlfriend believes in god
...seems i don't call them stupid for believing in what they believe


yet another installment of "i said, you said"
i said:


you haven't provided proof of anything more than immaturity on the internet.


you said:


And what have your posts to me been,,
the Alternative?


i see what you did there...and it's yet another personal attack.



It’s frivolous for a convicted Atheist Pedophile to sue the Supreme Court so he can be given conjugal visits with the small boys he likes to “indoctrinate with his superior Atheists parenting plan. THEY DON’T HAVE ANY RIGHTS.


...except that never happened
you're just making stuff up now

the ACLU acted on behalf of NAMBLA to ensure that their right to freedom of speech was protected

and here you've accused atheists of being pedophiles...or at least all pedophiles of being atheists
can you prove that?
i think not.

i'm not going to get into the rest of it because i don't have the time or enough space left to deal with it.

can someone else handle it?

as for the topic of debate, evolution would work as one
seeing as you like to call it a scam, let's see if you can properly affirm it

here's the topic "evolution is a scam"
you'll be the affirmative position, attacking evolution, with your partner
i'll be the negative position, defending evolution, with mine.

[edit on 3/21/08 by madnessinmysoul]

[edit on 3/21/08 by madnessinmysoul]



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
Do you actually have anything to add or just childish nonsense?


Basically just childish nonsense at this point. Especially with a comment so blatantly false that 'childish nonsense' is all it merited.


Christians have been killing Pagans, Jews, Atheists, Muslims, etc....ever since they formed the bogus religion.


I think you need to purchase some history books.


Christians are the ones all hot and bothered by people that don't believe what they believe.


Human nature. Atheists are the same way. They are so busy standing two inches away from our faces ranting about how bad the Christian breath is all while forgetting they just ate an egg and onion sandwich for lunch.


Atheists didn't spend centuries destroying whole races of people in the name of Jesus.


Correct. They do it in the name of 'politics.' Or so I've been told...

[edit on 3/21/2008 by AshleyD]



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 05:43 PM
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Atheists didn't spend centuries destroying whole races of people in the name of Jesus.

Correct. They do it in the name of 'politics.' Or so I've been told...


1. So it's okay for Christians to kill in the name of Jesus?
2. Atheists and politics? Name some politicians that are Atheist.

*waiting*



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
1. So it's okay for Christians to kill in the name of Jesus?


Nope! Never. It is never okay. People who do such things are guilty of the following:

1) Assuming God is impotent and needs our pathetic help.
2) Forgetting what Jesus said on the subject about turning the other cheek and walking away in peace. Not to mention that only He has the authority to judge at the end of time and we have no right to do so.

The people who do/did such things are/were schmucks. If you want to see my personal rant on the subject, just ask me how I feel about such things.


2. Atheists and politics? Name some politicians that are Atheist.


I'll just take the easy route and quote myself:

"I think you need to purchase some history books."



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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2. Atheists and politics? Name some politicians that are Atheist.


I'll just take the easy route and quote myself:

"I think you need to purchase some history books."


Thank you for the un-answer that I expected. I just met you and already so predictable.



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
Thank you for the un-answer that I expected. I just met you and already so predictable.


Hysterical! That is exactly how it is looking from my end, Mr. Gingerbread Man. Can't catch you can I? How many times has this debate played out on ATS?

Atheist: Untold numbers have been killed in the name of Christianity.
Christian: Untold numbers have been killed into the name of Atheism.
Atheist: Nuh Uh! It is politics.

Now I am being told to prove it is politics when I am not the one who believes it is political in the first place.

Ironic? Oh ya. See ya later, Mr. Gingerbread Man. I've already had my morning jog and am uninterested in chasing you.

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posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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Fascinating, but still.....nothing.

Atheists killed who?
You're an Atheist? You say the Atheist says it is politics. So you said it was politics when you suggested the history lesson. So again, you are an Athiest, not that there is anyting wrong with that. That's cool.

I didn't know Atheists thumped



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
Fascinating, but still.....nothing.


*Whistles innocently*

That is what I call perfect timing.


Atheists killed who?
You're an Atheist? You say the Atheist says it is politics. So you said it was politics when you suggested the history lesson. So again, you are an Athiest, not that there is anyting wrong with that. That's cool.

I didn't know Atheists thumped


[The teacher tells her students while having a day at the zoo]

Look, Children! It's a word twister. Isn't it cute how it throws its own poo around?



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 02:40 AM
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Ash,
I just wanted to step in for a moment and thank you for your dedication here. Sometimes your comments make me laugh. I only hop onto this site when I see your name on 'MY ATS.' I do that as a courtesy to you. I appreciate you taking over for me.
I don't think anyone will ever believe how much I regret having opened this thread. I have opened thread topics that I have spent days researching subject material, and the thread went nowhere. On this thread, all I did was ask a dumb question. And this thing just will not die. At one point, I even asked the mods to close it. But they felt that it would be unfair to the members who still wanted to discuss it. I suppose that is true.
Call me a weenie, but I just don't believe that anyone really wins an argument. So that is why I stepped out. Peace everyone. And thanks again Ash.

Edit: Just wanted to add something before I leave. I appreciate all the comments that I received here. Both Atheist and Christian. Please don't get me wrong. I do not remember the member's name at this point, it's been too long. This member was an atheist and was pretty riled up at me. But his comment at me, sent me on the most fruitful journey of my life. I wish I knew who he was, so that I could personally thank him/her. His comment suggested that Christians had tunnel vision. So I went a-studying. Lol! Thank-you, whoever you are.


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How do you think I feel? I had purposely been avoiding this thread until you U2Ued me ages ago asking me to chime in. Now I wish I had told you at the time to shove it!

And, yes, I am kidding. I would never would have told you that.

But I totally understand where you're coming from. At this point I'm willing to bribe the mods.. all the mods... if they would close down my evolution thread! I'm sick to death of it!


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posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 04:14 AM
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*Rea... [Tires screech to a halt, the record scratches, and I spit my drink out all over the computer screen]

Oh, dear child.

I wish my double take had been caught on camera for that bit.



Do you actually have anything to add or just childish nonsense? Christians have been killing Pagans, Jews, Atheists, Muslims, etc....ever since they formed the bogus religion.


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Christians need to look at their own behaviors. Atheists didn't spend centuries destroying whole races of people in the name of Jesus


Yeah I know Jesus hates when people have used his name in vain, Scripture says they would kill in his name. Isn't like Atheists to take religious flyer off the windshield of his car purporting to have been water boarded into Christianity or been tied down having it shoved down his vitriolic foul mouth.

I should have so much to complain about.



"If you don't take Jesus as your savior you're not going to be saved!" blah blah blah....



Yet HERE YOU ARE because the LAST thing YOU want to hear is another bible thumping Christian. Sheesh guy why is it every post I have seen of yours, you are talkin out of both sides of your mouth.

You don't like what she has to say,,

LEAVE

- Con



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 04:18 AM
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I didn't know Atheists thumped


Atheists don't thump, but they they sure mumble a lot

-Con



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by AshleyD

Atheist: Untold numbers have been killed in the name of Christianity.
Christian: Untold numbers have been killed into the name of Atheism.
Atheist: Nuh Uh! It is politics.



Now ya know why they are so bent on separation of church and state, so their atheistic worldview can infect the politics of state then everybody

Dies


- Con



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 08:43 AM
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Ashley....fascinating ability to avoid answers. BRAVO! YOU should be a pollitician.

But seriously, name some Atheist politicians. Why are you avoiding the question?

I'm throwing poo around?
Darling, you're sitting in it!



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 09:58 AM
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Btw,
Just wanted to make a point here and I'll be on my way again.
If you are an anglo, you are part of a murderous crowd also.
(American Indian)
(Black people, formerly slaves) and that's just to name a few. Later

Edit: And what were these crimes done in the name of? Oh! I forgot...Progress, wasn't it? Or was it greed? Sorry, I get confused. But I guess it is okay as long as it wasn't done in the name of religion, right?

Not just talking about America here. Didn't Africa once belong to the black people? How many times did Israel belong to the Jews? I believe that England just returned it to them in 1948.

But, you know how us Murdering Christians are....

Hmmm....weren't the vikings anglo? Don't recall that they were Christian.

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posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 03:04 PM
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What does "Anglo" have to do with Atheist?



The term Anglo is used as a prefix to indicate a relation to the Angles, England or the English people, as in the phrases 'Anglo-Saxon', 'Anglo-American', 'Anglo-Celtic', and 'Anglo-Indian'. It is often used alone, somewhat loosely, to refer to a person or people of English ethnicity in the The Americas, Australia and Southern Africa. It is also used, both in English-speaking and non-English-speaking countries, to refer to Anglophone people of other European origins.

source: en.wikipedia.org...


Are all English people Atheists now? I have heard the expression "Anglo-Saxon Protestant" before. Aren't Protestants Christian?


Here's some scary Christians:





There's so many I just don't have time....

Do you know any scary Atheists?



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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So some questions for you, AshleyD.

Were the crusades conducted in the name of the Christian faith and reclaiming the holy land from the infidel, or were they not?

Was the depopulation of Latin America by the Spaniards, and North America by the Protestants enacted in the name of "spreading the faith" or was it not?

Was the English civil war rooted in the divisions among the new branches of Protestantism in England, or was it not?

Did Stalin conduct his pogroms for the greater good of atheism, or did he not?

Of course there were "other reasons" - but we're talking about stated reasons aren't we, with hte "in the name of" meme.



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Stalin was part of the Russian Orthodix Church, a Christian church. Stalin wasn't against religion. He was against any religion other than his own - just like most Christians.

He was labeled an Atheist by some. If you label a turd a piece of candy, it doesn't make it a delicious treat.



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