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Originally posted by melatonin
Great discussion. Might have been better without Hitchens, heh.
I'll hopefully being seeing a Dennett talk later this year. W00t!
As they say, it is easier to teach than to unteach. So does 'atheism' create a 'blank slate' in regards to religious beliefs in order to open the door to faith once the 'lying signs and wonders' of the new religion are revealed?
Yet they [Atheists] study the Christian Bible and Christian traditions much more then most Christians do.....I have seen entire threads where a dozen Christians would get their asses handed back to them on a platter of humble pie by one Atheist who knew Scripture better then they did
Originally posted by AdamD
I foresee a fairly easy transition and one without bloodshed (yes, it's possible!).
[edit on 12-3-2008 by AdamD]
Originally posted by AdamD
LOL! You bring this on yourselves. The way I see it - an Agnostic or Atheist forms their opinion on the very lack of empirical evidence for God's existence. There is no conspiracy here.
As for the scriptures, many atheists and agnostics have a complete disinterest in them. But if it's rammed down our throats enough (as it is done in Western society), we might just investigate them. Or do so out of historical interest.
I have been a quiet Atheist/Agnostic for the last 20 years and I have never forced my beliefs on to anyone. Rarely have I even disclosed them. Most other Atheists I know fall into this category.But people like you might make us change our approach.
[edit on 13-3-2008 by AdamD]
Even Dawkins says "organising Atheists is like herding cats".
The notion of a conspiracy or doctrine tied to Atheism, is absurd
Internet-based groups are also seeking to spread the atheist message, particularly among young adults. The Rational Response Squad (RRS) has chosen a provocative mode using the popular website YouTube. Their “blasphemy challenge” calls on young nonbelievers to create videos in which they renounce belief in the “sky God of Christianity”
As a result, seven organizations of nontheists - including atheists, freethinkers, humanists, and agnostics - began the Secular Coalition for America (SCA), a lobby seeking to increase the visibility and respectability of nontheistic viewpoints in the United States.
The link between belief and behavior raises the stakes considerably. Some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people for believing them. - Sam Harris
I have never forced my beliefs on to anyone.
Rarely have I even disclosed them.
Most other Atheists I know fall into this category
atheists and agnostics have a complete disinterest in them.
But people like you might make us change our approach.
so much for atheists in all categories not shoving their damn belief down our throats.
I thought you guys didn't have any beliefs?
Must of been hard herding all those cats into that category eh
Yeah that would explain why you guys are never in any of the Christian threads here huh?
They may try without any intention to spill any blood, that don't mean I wouldn't skip a beat to drop a bucket of theirs.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
con, you took a quote completely out of context...
what harris said didn't mean "let's kill christians" it means that there are some people that might just believe you should kill all christians and letting them live might not be the best option.
89 FRANK TREJO KILL THOSE G_D DAMMED CHRISTIANS THEY ARE HEATHEN KILL KILL KILL THEM ALL
88 Graham If there was a god, explain cancer, explain wars where millions of people get killed, explain 3rd world poverty.
85 hahaha you stupid columbine dorks!
84 remove this petition REMOVE THIS PETITION.
82 Alana christianson i definitely against this petition. Our president is a Christian his self What do you worship....Your poster!?! Us Christians do not think it is all about us...its not really about anyone..and how do you think Adam and eve were made on earth hun? God made them. So next time..be sure to Google stuff like this before you go posting these petitions!
81 Der Antikrist Grab the Boots, grab your Gun and let us Kill em all. JESUS IS A C_NT!
80 AngryDon I think the Romans had the right idea: Christians SHOULD be fed to the lions. They are whiny hypocritical bastards. Christians say "Make love everyone!" Just as George W. Motherf*cking Bush goes and kills a f*ckload of motherf*cking piss smelling Musilims. I think we should kill every last Christian in a very gruesome way. Such as, killing the hot women, we would make them lie on their backs and s*** a dick while choking on the cum! How brilliant would it be to kill a Christian slut with your cock!!!
As for men, we'd stick a long metal shaft up their arses until it came out of the shoulder blade or something. We'd rape small girls til they died of blood loss, and every Christian in the world would go to hell.
We'd get every bible in the world and beat some Christians senseless with their beloved book. we'd cum on it in front of them and rip it apart! we will burn churches, raze them to the ground and pretty much destroy everything Christian. It will be like the Holocaust, except on a world wide scale and we wont kill Jews. Kill the #ing hypocritical scum of the earth bastardizing Christian race!
79 David Uitermarkt
78 Daymon Christians can all suck on my juicy hard horse-c*ck.
77 androo U STOOPID CHRISTIANS SUCKAWCK BESAWEEDZ AWEE LAWEEK NAWTSEEZ!!!!!!!
76 Mo DIE F*CKIN CHRISTIANS! AND # GODS MUM LOL!
74 "I Hate Christians" Death to gOD.
73 religion is for f*ckheads because all religion is so f*cking stupid who ever thought that the idea of higher being and creativism needs their head examining. religion has killed countless millions of people for no apperent reasons apart from what some f*cking stoners 2000 years ago decided to write about a dickhead all other religions are exactly the same. kill all christians and other religious people pretty much sums it up
72 Beelzebub Kill all Jews, Muslims and Christians.
Then go after the Hindus, Buddhists, and all the other superstitious cocksuckers. I'm tired of all those F*CKING SH*THEADS and their stupid non-existent gods. That's my take on it, motherf*ckers.
71 Nathan I support this petition. I laugh at the confused weak religous #s who make up fairy tales so that they will feel the icy grip of reality less. lol
70 Jesus sucked ****. I support doing away with the suppositions of bronze age myth makers.
1: no cohesion among atheists
2: lack of message to put forth a conspiracy of this sort
3: christianity is many, many sects and not one entity that can be "overthrown"