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Originally posted by melatonin
Science doesn't give a damn about your religion. That's the beauty of it. It just doesn't care. It allows people of all faiths and non-faith to study nature and advance knowledge.
Science is not attacking religion in schools. This is quite the projection here.
Nope, I gave you my motives. Isn't that what you asked for?
Come on, con, give me a break. So far you've spouted all kinds of nonsense about atheists from Dawkins wanting to wipe out religious education from schools, to Dover being an atheist crusade.
Originally posted by Conspiriology
No but Atheism gives a damn and thats what I am against
No but Atheism does and they use this science like a sword
No, I never asked you what your motives were, you assumed what mine were first.
You want me to show you what Dawkins says and does? It isn't a problem I should be able to get enough off my backup files to upload and you can see what I am talking about.
I know its sordid sick and disgusting history as well. I was once like you,, cocky arrogant using all kinds of tricks setting up strawmen so I could burn the foolish church mouse down to a crisp.
I didn't ask for it hell I didn't even believe in it but Ill tell you this my friend,, if he wants you,, he is going to tell you and you WILL listen and listen well. You are someone if you have even noticed that I pay a little more respect to in my posts.
I respect your intelligence and I respect the fact that I might be one of the links in a long chain of other Christians providence has brought about in our paths crossing in the hopes that you feel the lord calling you. To someone like you, the postulate on its face is moronic I know but to me,,,
People like us ex-atheists have more of a burden to live down knowing what we have done what we did to hurt others claiming a science as our own and using evolution as a tool box filled with lies that ridicule people of faith while keeping those that might otherwise find the lord from seeking him.
so science has its evil side and that side is evolution.
allow them to learn the dishonesty and deceptive tools used by people like us.
I was talking to sizzler last night in a pvt message telling her how I sometimes would like to re-invent Christianity to make it more appealing
as Atheists when it comes to exploiting them in their true beliefs their very real agendas.
You know all that garbage atheists spew about Hitler being a Christian?
Edward Simon, a Jewish biology professor at Purdue University, wrote, "I don't claim that Darwin and his theory of evolution brought on the holocaust; but I cannot deny that the theory of evolution, and the atheism it engendered, led to the moral climate that made a holocaust possible."
Could the incredible number and depth of our social problems be the result of a Darwinian Science called Evolution?
Tell me Mel?
In an age when upstanding Congregationalists and Unitarians were urging Americans to produce Fewer and Better Babies (Eugenics Publishing House, 35th edition, 1929), Sanger was in step with the times. By mid-century, most mainstream Protestant leaders agreed that the nation needed to calibrate carefully the number and type of babies—and immigrants—allowed.
was Darwin even a real Scientist?
If Darwin were alive today, he would be hooted out of the scientific community because he was not a trained scientist and because of his outrageous views about black people. Darwin thought that blacks were closer to man's ape "ancestors" than the white race and behind closed doors it is STILL as racist at the Atheist meetings I've been to as it was when it started.
Should I go on?
Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn.
When I see posts like I have seen already laced with the same bigotry and the same prejudice but now it isn't blacks but the religion they were drawn to because it answered the prayers to a God that brought about Civil Rights and freedom from slavery.
Mendeleyev's "periodic system of elements" clearly shows how very important in the history of nature is the emergence of qualitative changes out of quantitative changes. The same thing is shown in biology by the theory of neo-Lamarckism, to which neo-Darwinism is yielding place.
I have more reasons to know why Atheism and Evolution are one in the same
Originally posted by norman619
Atheists BELIEVE in the non-existence of a god 100% on faith. 2 sides of the same coin
Originally posted by LightinDarkness
I would offer that these selected atheists are no worse in their ideology than the crusaders or islamic extremists.
Originally posted by norman619
Please define Atheist for me. Last I checked Atheists believe there is no such thing as a god.
Originally posted by LightinDarkness
(The Crusades had nothing to do with religion except a religious facade, and everything to do with politics. But its easier to bash religion.)
Fanatical hatred against religion does a disservice to reasonable and logical atheists who do not spend their time bashing everyone else's belief system, and it puts those with such hatred on the level of religious fanaticism.
Originally posted by sizzle
I have been involved in several very heated discussions lately, here on ATS, between Christians and Atheists. I must say that it troubles me very deeply. I have found myself lashing out at others in defense of my beliefs. This is out of character for me. In the REAL world, per se, this never happens to me. I do have friends who are either Atheist or Agnostic, and we are able to discuss things amongst ourselves civilly.
The links to Atheist websites that have been introduced in these topic threads, are frightening. They seem to be trying to incite some type of action against believers of Christianity. Is this really necessary? The thing I look at is; Most of us are deeply troubled at being at war with Iraq. I believe that most of us can agree on that., Christian and Atheist alike. The other is that there is wide-spread belief that the affairs of our government is in serious trouble. Can we agree on that? There is a lot of troubling things going on, such as the possibility of a police State and/or a NWO. As the old saying goes, "A house divided against itself, cannot stand."
I would like to propose that we stop the bickering on this issue, and band together on the more important issue of saving our country. I think that this is the most serious issue that we have at hand. I apologize for any statement that I might have made that would have seemed offensive to anyone. Can we start over?
I would like to propose here that we start reconciling valid, deeply thought out ways to stop this runaway train, called the U.S. Government, as it now stands. I know that there are some very fine and intelligent minds here on this website. I have seen it over and over. Let's stop tearing each other to bits and start trying to fix our country. This invitation goes out to members outside the country as well. Because I have seen their concern many times, and some of their viewpoints. So how about, let's get them all together in one place?
Folks, the condition of our country is too important for us to be fighting amongst ourselves. Let's call a truce on this type of fighting and try to do something constructive. Any ideas?
Originally posted by alli3
Don't worry, your just being paranoid, there are no such actions taking place to over throw christians. Athiest are just expressing their selves, just like how christians express themselves on tv and say harry potter, halloween and most things are evil. I'm not an athiest, some of my fiends are. There's no such plan.
One must wonder what is wrong with the Atheist Agenda people. Is it just one member who is an asshole, trying to ruin everyone else's day with their unnecessary attacks on people with religion, or is the entire group too stupid to realize their hate tactics are not winning people over?
I have watched this group since its founding, having gone to one meeting (yes I am an Atheist, surprised?), and I am amazed at how zealous some of its members are.
These lunatics are frightened by people who have a religion, and decide to try and remove it from their lives. Many of these "Atheist Agenda" members seem to get pleasure from angering those with religion, going so far as to put up posters that state "F_ck Religion." Before anyone calls me a liar for this, you can ask any member of this organization, and they will tell you that they did indeed hang up such a poster, but it was quickly removed. The fact that anybody would want to do such a thing, thinking it will spread open mindedness (yes, that is what many of the members will claim they are trying to do), worries me as an Atheist.
unlike these other atheists, who seem to have stuffed their heads so far into Richard Dawkins ass, they don't seem to realize how close minded their needlessly aggressive actions actually are