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Originally posted by Anatomic Bomb
My mother, I'm sorry to say, is kicking around voting for that kook Huckleberry. Maybe this highly absurd statement will change her mind. If it doesn't, I might have to give her Alzheimer's or something.
Article VI of the U.S. Constitution actually and very carefully and deliberately say:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
As so often, the framers and founding fathers meant what they said, said what they meant, and risked no waste of words. A candidate for election, or an applicant for a post in the bureaucracy, could not be disqualified on the grounds of his personal faith in any god (or his disbelief in any god, for that matter). This stipulation was designed to put an end to the hideous practice of European monarchies—and the pre-existing practice of various American colonies—whereby if a man did not affirm the trinity, or deny the pope, or abjure Judaism (depending on the jurisdiction), he could be forbidden to hold office or even to run for it. Along with the establishment clause of the First Amendment, and the predecessor-language of the Virginia Statute on Religious Freedom, it forms part of the chief glory of the first-ever constitution that guaranteed religious liberty, religious pluralism, and the freedom to be left alone by priests and rabbis and mullahs and other characters.
However, what Article VI does not do, and was never intended to do, is deny me the right to say, as loudly as I may choose, that I will on no account vote for a smirking hick like Mike Huckabee, who is an unusually stupid primate but who does not have the elementary intelligence to recognize the fact that this is what he is. My right to say and believe that is already guaranteed to me by the First Amendment. And the right of Huckabee to win the election and fill the White House with morons like himself is unaffected by my expression of an opinion.
Originally posted by pavlovsdog
Is your mother a Christian? Is she going to church? Odds are that her church is using the pulpit to tell it's sheep that this is good and desirable.
They are also surely reinforcing the ideas that we are a 'Christian nation' and that our Constitution was based on the 10 Commandments.
Originally posted by Thousand
So basically, what you're trying to say without saying it is: "The constitution was based on the bible, but it's been relaxed over the years to make sin more 'accessible' by making acceptable 'lifestyles' and 'choices' that were not originally allowed, and now it's become 'mans' law instead of 'gods' law."
Do you even have a clue as to how completely wrong you are?
Originally posted by DCP
There is an anti christian group out there (or here on ATS)
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Simon, you seem a little too obsessed with homosexuality. You showed your colors, a little, with the "(sin)" comment.
... And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."
Originally posted by C0le
Huckabee with these words is now an enemy to the Constitution.
Any American who votes for him is also.
[edit on 15-1-2008 by C0le]