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reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 07:51 PM by SimonSays

Originally posted by West Coast
Wow, strong rhetoric. Im going to shoot myself if this guy actually becomes the next president. All hope will be lost!

think I'll join ya ..... errrr, you got 2 bullets in that gun ??

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 08:14 PM by Shadowflux

Man, things must have really changed in the past ten years that he would be so open with comments such as these. I sincerely hope he gets no where near the oval office.

I don't know if I'm too worried really. I think he may have a lot of support in the Bible belt and the heartland but I think a lot of the more coastal states won't take too kindly to him speaking like this. I know for a fact he will never win NY speaking like this, in fact he'd probably do better here if he was a satanist.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 08:21 PM by IAF101

I hope huckabee does well, hes better that other crazy Ron Paul with his militant minions. The good thing is this guy is laying out what he believes right at the start.

Also, I dont know how much of what he is saying is merely rhetoric for SC and how much he really means.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 08:35 PM by Thousand

reply to post by mizzu

So basically, what you're trying to say without saying it is: "The constitution was based on the bible, but it's been relaxed over the years to make sin more 'accessible' by making acceptable 'lifestyles' and 'choices' that were not originally allowed, and now it's become 'mans' law instead of 'gods' law."

Do you even have a clue as to how completely wrong you are?

Do you know anything about the American Constitution? At all? I assume you're American, but it sure doesn't sound like you've even read the thing...because it has provisions against the exact type of changes you're hoping to have made. Biblical influence belongs nowhere in government, especially in the judicial branch.

One Nation Under God indeed.

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reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 09:22 PM by DontTreadOnMe

This guy is really not of this world.
First he goes on that late night talk show and claims he does't know there's a writers' strike.

Now he's in Michigan and telling us that Daimler-Chrylser should be headquartered here......HELLLLO......Daimler and Chrylser went their separate ways HOW long ago? And, what about the headquarters in Auburn Hills?

This guys is a little scary with his relgious zealotry.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 09:33 PM by Hello123456

What happens to the porn industry out of this where does that go. A man of ignorance indeed bible has always been a way to seek power hasnt anyone noticed the connections between Horus and Jesus they stole a old egyptian beleif and wanted world power Jesus was crucified then he supposudly came back. People don't take aliens seriously but they take this seriously I cannot stand the ignornace anymore its unbelievable the world is controlled by cultists and extremists why Mike Huckabee becomes one himself what a facist. Despicable thats downright horrible Im sorry for the outrage today I saw a UFO get chased down by some bullying USAF jets I cried my eyes out all I could do was see the chase could not help I hope the beings are alive. Thumbs down for mike Huckabee the new american facist

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 09:35 PM by Hello123456

Does Huckabee want stoning we went for a free republic so this wouldnt happen our forefathers would not stand for this this is true BS I mean right out of a can. How do the other canidates feel on Religon. Huckabee is an extremist.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 09:37 PM by Hello123456

I think if huckabee ever met god hes in for a shock god is space and time angels are ETS the heavens and this was a misconseption taken long time ago Satan is the anger and Hell is a place in time.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 09:48 PM by apc

Whooooaaaaa!

I started to like Huckabee when the Fair Tax spotlight was on him. But he keeps coming out with stuff like this... Holy Crap (literally)!

I'm thinking he needs to follow in the footsteps of his lord and piss off some Romans.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 10:01 PM by HimWhoHathAnEar

reply to post by Inannamute

Hm. You know, I can't remember any country in living memory that decided that their government had a right to dictate good and bad religions to the masses... none at all..

Umm... The Middle East. Islam. China. Ring any bells?

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 10:07 PM by j_kalin

Originally posted by mizzu
In it's original context, the Constitution is , for the most part, in agreement with the Bible. Our founding fathers used the Ten Commandments as a basis for "man's" law. Throughout the years, the Constitution as well as corresponding state & federal laws, have been changed via amendments to reflect man's interpretation of present day trends. In other words, what the majority felt was too restrictive or condeming in the original law was changed to make their "lifestyles" or "choices" lawful. I for one, would welcome more Biblical influence in the judicial branch. "One nation Under God".

I beg to differ; the constitution was based on English common law, created by the English kings and the Magna Carta as well as other legal documents of the time. Nothing in the constitution has ever been taken directly from the 10 commandments as valid as they may be, and incorporated into our laws. Keep in mind that the founders were deists, and not necessarily Christians in the modern sense. They believed in a universal higher power, not in any particular religion. That is why they came to this continent (to escape religious persecution and government dictates on religious matters). Thus the concept of church and state separation. If Huck's ideas seem sensible to you, imagine he is a Muslim and wants to start sharia law. That's why this sort of thing is unacceptable. The constituion has to work for everyone, not just the minoruty(20% or so) who are evangelical christians.

Wikipedia:Historical influences
Several of the ideas in the Constitution were new, and a large number of ideas were drawn from the literature of Republicanism in the United States, from the experiences of the 13 states, and from the British experience with mixed government. The most important influence from the European continent was from Montesquieu, who emphasized the need to have balanced forces pushing against each other to prevent tyranny. (This in itself reflects the influence of Polybius' 2nd century BC treatise on the checks and balances of the constitution of the Roman Republic.) John Locke is known to have been a major influence, and the due process clause of the United States Constitution was partly based on common law stretching back to the Magna Carta of 1215.[9] Another leading influential force was that of the Iroquois Confederacy which had set a basis for the United States Constitution as well as the Articles of Confederation.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 10:41 PM by Johnmike

Well better change it than downright ignore it.

Like we've been doing for a long time, and became common thanks to FDR.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 10:45 PM by jpm1602

This guy is more whacked than Pat Robertson. Pllllleeeeeaassse Eddie, don't let the right wing christian nutjob get the job!

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 10:52 PM by C0le

God or no god, unless god shows himself, I don't want my leaders taking orders form any entity to which those orders can't be proven...

Bush is a prime example of "god told me to" and look where it has lead us...

The Constitution was written the way it was to eliminate such problems, The rights of man and the limitation of Government are simple.

What someone does, Owns, Says, or Believes is their business and until they violate another persons rights, they are to be left alone and Government has no right to tread on those rights, and has a sworn duty to protect them...

Religion has no place in Government, when Governments only role is to protect the rights of man.

Huckabee with these words is now an enemy to the Constitution.

Any American who votes for him is also.

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reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 11:47 PM by flashback

I wouldn't be too concerned about Huckleberry sitting in the oval office. Mr. preacher has some demons of his own:

www.boston.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

www.buzzflash.com...

If he gets the GOP nomination, this story will "Dukakis" him.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 11:55 PM by AmoebaSized

Huckabee is just plain silly. First he would have to Amend all the political candidates brains back to something but they still would fall short of being amended towards God. Then he also have to include Congress people next and so on and so on down the line. Then the rest of the world, and all of Isalm and China and some tribe in Africa like the one they found in 1964 who were still cannibals. Huckabee is not even having a prayer at this time, and it may be doubtful if he is having a prayer at any time. He should just go over to Tibet and talk to the Tibetan Monks for a few years and learn something first.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 11:56 PM by Arcane Demesne

reply to post by Nailer

16th

deemed illegal the first rn in the 1880's, and was finally passed in 1913.

reply posted on 15-1-2008 @ 11:58 PM by jpm1602

True story. My apprentice was a blue blood Englishman. Bentley. His great grandfather was not allowed to shave on Sundays. He said Blimey and came over on the boat. The rest was history. Our forefathers were so ahead of their times to seperate church and state. I have my religious convictions that are mostly kept close and personal till someone says 'Jesus never died on the cross, so what'. In the presedential rotunda they best be kept even closer.
When I saw Bush on fox in the back 40 saying how God talks to him....it took me weeks to swallow that pill. A week later we invaded Iraq.
Don't involve God with killing and mayhem. Sprout kept blinking furiously during interview. Blinking is strongly connected to disinfo.
I didn't really swallow that pill, just became increasingly sick over time. Seven years now. Bloody hell, even WW2 didn't last that long. Call it what it is, an occupation.
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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 04:31 AM by pai mei

Tell him to read the Bible then. I am not a Christian myself but look what it says here :

The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. So if you worship me, it will all be yours."

Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.

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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 05:06 AM by dawnstar

Originally posted by Arcane Demesne
reply to post by Nailer

16th

deemed illegal the first rn in the 1880's, and was finally passed in 1913.

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

For some reason, I don't see any biblical justification for trying to derail the 16th amendment. What was it Jesus said, oh ya, give unto Ceaser (the Fed in our case) what is Ceaser's (the fed owns the money, we just borrow it from them and then get hit with a nice interest charge).....and unto God what is God's.....in other words go fishing with the faith that God will provide you with the money you need to pay ceaser!!!
Even Jesus didn't see anything wrong with paying taxes!! Now you can argue that the fed is the money changers that Jesus drove out of the temple, but then that could be easily corrected by our government starting to print it's own money, and then collecting the fed's money from us, and giving it back to the fed, along with some of the newly printed money to make up the difference, and we could walk away without any debt. But, well, who's to say that our government would be any better at running the economy than the fed was....or that they would spend less money and cease taxation!

Na, for some reason, I don't think this is the amendment that Huckabee would like to get rid of. He wants to be president, and I am sure he would like to be paid well for being president.
The 13th maybe...the 14th probably...the 15th more than likely...the 19th most definately... and then there's the 24th..
and of course there would have to be at least one addition, the Federal Marriage Ammendment...

but there's no biblical justification to oppose taxation, although I could see a reason to oppose the way we are getting our money as being a little out of biblical bounds, since it makes us all debtors from the start. but, you don't need any changes to the constitution or the amendments to fix that one!

oh, by the way, ya so hucky messed up and let a rapist murder go......so what. it was pretty commonly known that bush was lying thru his teeth, and he managed to ride the christian right back into the white house. It must be that power or prayer....or easily manipulated electronic voting machines.!!

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