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Originally posted by TekNo88
you dont get into heaven by just believing in jesus, theres more to it then that...go by the ten commandments...and like you said (i dont really understand it either) they repent, so to answer your question, i have no clue.
Originally posted by lilblam
Let's take the 10 commandments... why follow them and expect some future reward?
Originally posted by thedarkprojekt
liblam, please elaborate on what you mean by
" is KNOWLEDGE that allows you to access higher forms of existance, nothing else. No "divine magic" or something That's silliness! "
I think you have a strong point of view but that last sentance seemed cloudy to me.
Perhaps its the tea i've been drinking tonight
[Edited on 11-2-2004 by thedarkprojekt]
Originally posted by TekNo88
Originally posted by lilblam
Let's take the 10 commandments... why follow them and expect some future reward?
Well, i'm just going to and hope for the best...if it turns out i was wrong my whole life, at least i'll know i tried
Originally posted by JustAnIllusion
For God to accept a serial killer or sinner into heaven, he must repent. However, this must serious repentment. You cant just say the magical words "God, Im sorry, please forgive me." Its not that easy. You have to let God consume your body and soul. You have to truly deeply be sorry for the sins you committed. I think God can differentiate between the people who are truly sorry and the people that just want to get into heaven.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
lilblam is that in the bible somewhere??
if anyone is going to quote Jesus and the Bible on this issue, please give me directions as to where to find it.
Originally posted by lilblam
Originally posted by TekNo88
Originally posted by lilblam
Let's take the 10 commandments... why follow them and expect some future reward?
Well, i'm just going to and hope for the best...if it turns out i was wrong my whole life, at least i'll know i tried
Right.. but tried what? Tried to do as you were told in fear of being sent to Hell? Why let anything play on your fears of the unknown? Of course it's your choice as always...
You can analyze these commandments and see WHY they are what they are, and decide which of them should be followed in what situations and for what reasons. This is how you learn. You question, you research, you THINK and discover. You trip, fall down, get up, and keep going....
Not by receiving a list and following it...
Originally posted by worldwatcher
but seekeroff, that is my problem with the Bible, it can be interpreted to push the Christianity religion when it perhaps was just a story to instill morals. You take it to mean forgiveness of sins, I really really have a hard time interpreting in your way, I still see it as a moral about fairness and equality in life.
but I appreciate your input.
lilblam, i understand your interpretation however I don't see that being expressed verbally in the bible. your interpretation sounds very much eastern philosophy. correct me if I am wrong
justanillusion...i certainly hope God can tell the difference, but under the premise that these evil people were sincere when repenting, I still cannot accept being in the same heaven as them.