2012 - What WIll it Bring?, page 1


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Topic started on 15-1-2008 @ 11:44 AM by Apsaroke
Okay, I'll try to do this without sounding like a crackpot.

My first introduction to information regarding 2012 was with the Mayan Calendar ending in 2012. Apparantly, the gist is that 3,600 years ago, the planets aligned and created a corridor in which the "gods" came through and that on December 21, 2012, the planets are aligned yet again and the corridor is created and the "gods" will come back through to earth.

I was originally interested in the story, not so much for the corridor and planetary alignment portion, but more for the ending of time and it's correlation to the Bible's "and time shall be no more." Yeah, I know.. there are lots of forecasted calendar endings, but this one tweaked me for whatever reason.

Then I pondered a bit on the planetary alignment deal and what impacts that might bring to our planet. Which lead me to looking at pole shifts and that whole line of stuff. A friend eventually found ATS and linked me up here where my mind has now had plenty to digest. lol

It was here at ATS that I found references to the Sumerian texts and that sent me off looking at them and of course, the whole Nibiru/Planet X train of thought. Now, throwing Sitchin out of the mix as he is apparantly quite controversial, I am peaked by the fact that the Sumerians were very accurate in their description of the planets, their descriptions, and their orbits AND they included the extra planet, Nibiru. I have trouble understanding how they could be so accurate regarding everything else we know to be true about our solar system, yet be erroneous in an extra planet. Interesting enough, it is forecast that this extra planet is due back to us in 2012.

That was enough to spur me to go try and find some sky charts. I went to
www.heavens-above.com... where I was able to pull up various skycharts for my location. As I played with the Hour and Minute setting, I was starting to see alignments. The strongest viewing for my location is for the date of Year: 2012 Month: 12 Day: 21 Hour: 10 Minute: 0

This is what the chart looks like for my location at that date and time:

Sky Chart

What I found was that by drawing a straight line from Mars to Saturn and then a second straight line from the Sun to Mercury and Venus, you end up with a corridor.

This prompted me to go back to the Sumerian texts and to try and find a source on them that is not Sitchin. I found what I was looking for here:

www.sacred-texts.com...

It was very interesting scanning through this and finding reference to the creation of man.

I have yet to have the time needed to dive deeply into the information at secred-texts but I am looking forward to doing it.

So.. now the Speculative portion of this thread:

I do beleive that in 2012, we will see a planetary alignment that creates a corridor in space. The Mayans combined with the Sumerians both basically make the same statements: "The Gods came from the sky". Planet X? Dunno, but the Sumerian drawings of the planets certainly gives some merit to the idea of such a planet's existence and I don't think it can be quickly waved off without good conversation and reasoning behind it.

So if, we're looking at a return of the "gods" which is forecast by the Mayans and also in the Bible (even though the Bible is monotheistic), it really makes me wonder how people will react. It also makes me wonder if this planetary alignment, of which the Sun and the Moon also play a role, will produce natural disasters beyond anything we have experienced in our lifetimes and if survival of such disasters will be possible. If the 3-1/2 years of tribulation do precede the end of time, we should see increased activity beginning mid-2008, no? Thoughts anyone?


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 12:03 PM by Apsaroke
Thanks, Perplexed.

I don't mind the sarcasm. I do know how cracked it all sounds. I have trouble getting past how many external and non-connected references there are to the year 2012 as being a very significant year.

I don't think I referred that it will definately result in a doomsday deal, but rather, musing over why this particular year holds so much meaning across many different belief systems.

And as a post noted, 12/21/2012 is also when the Age of Aquarius begins which is supposed to usher in a new age of enlightenment. Shoot...there is even a reference to the Roswell crash and the year 2012 located in another thread here at ATS. That theory is based on numerical data and numerology and has next to nothing to do with Mayan or Biblical predictions.

I have been surprised that the planetary alignment has received very little attention. Throw out all the religious or ancient civilization stuff, and we're still left with the scientific reality of a planetary alignment of a magnitude that we ourselves have never experienced. Considering the impact that only the moon has on our ocean tides, etc, one has to contemplate what effects our going to be experienced from this alignment.

I'm no science expert and hopefully someone here will be able to provide some insight... but one thing that had me curious with the "corridor" that gets created is what is occuring in the center of that corridor in the mix of the gravitional pulls from each of those planets?

I've also been pretty intrigued by how quickly people dismiss historical recordings of this planet having been host to people from another planet. Even the Bible refers to chariots in the sky and people being "taken up" to God. Enoch for example. I don't know if people dismiss these things quickly becuase it is an uncomfortable thought or what, but it is interesting.

I do know that we're seeing shifts in our weather patterns. Here in TN, just a few days ago, we were under tornado warnings...very odd for January. Last summer we encountered drought-like conditions that had us under water restrictions (something I've never experienced living here).

Now..even if this can be explained as a "natural earth cycle" and you throw out the global warming and planetary alignment stuff, you're still facing real conditions that need to be addressed. Take a look at how Hurricane Katrina impacted this country (USA). This area like many others received a new influx of people in very large numbers, very quickly. This placed a strain on employment opportunities and housing availability.

Now consider what happened in our mini-drought this past summer. Natural ponds and wells dried up, leaving cattle farmers without water or hay. TN farmers had to go states away just to find feed. These are real things regardless of the reasons behind them.

Now if there is a connection to future events that are forecasted to 2012 via different modes of thought, then we can expect an increase in such "natural events" which means an increase in the impacts of those "natural events". It's kind of reminding me about the Biblical story about the Bridesgroom coming. Who will have kept their lamps ready and who will not have?

I do hope that 2012 turns out to be another Y2K, but just in case, I feel very lucky to have 10 acres of land that we are using to increase our self-sufficiency. It's not so much the disasters themselves I worry about being prepared for so much as we all know how the masses react in a disaster setting. Shoot... give folks here a forecast of 1" of snow and the stores get cleaned out. Now give them a disaster that really impacts them and it isn't going to be pretty.
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