here is a interesting web site, than might help.www.rickrichards.com//ac/ac2_.htm or it might make u ask more questions

k thanks ill go on it

Check out information on www.onealclan.com. More information there concerning the Mayans on one website than I've seen elsewhere. Click on "Armageddon 2012."

Originally posted by Mapes
here is a interesting web site, than might help.www.rickrichards.com//ac/ac2_.htm or it might make u ask more questions

It sounds like the South American jungle is cursed by some strange force. I can believe that there was once great, powerful kingdoms within South America. Atlantis probably sank (in the Caribbean) when these various kingdoms were brought to ruin (in South America) when the "war of the gods began." The real problem is figuring out when this catacalysm occurred.

It was said that there were populous cities in this region of which the grandest of all was the imperial Atlan, the home of five hundred thousand inhabitants. These mystical ruins could be related to the satelite powers of Atlantis, where the ten princes of royal blood ruled other cites as subortinate rulers.
Within the adytum, of Atlan, of the temple was a colossal statue of the sea-god, who, its was believed, raised this island from the depths of ocean and founded upon it a kingdom for his ten sons, children of Kleita, a mortal woman. This golden statue was seated in a chariot drawn by six winged horses, and around it were ranging images of the ten demi-gods. Before this group stood a pillar of orichaleum, on which were engraved the laws of the land, and an alter of sacrifice, from which oracles were delivered.

Their culture must have been advanced enough or influenced by some higher being to perfectly mold a replica of a human scull out of Quarz crystal, the Grand Daddy of crystal balls, which was found under an alter somewhere in Central America.

Now who is cursing the expeditions? The spirit forces that created that magnificent kingdom long ago? The Creator, because he hates the work of these spirit creatures?

Now for those individuals that don't believe in spirit forces; they should endevor to explore these uncharted territories because maybe the superstition won't have any power on you. But! I think some of the lost explorers did not have some sort of belief system and they too died! Do you want to risk your life for the pursuit of truth? Its not worth it if it always ends up in failure, others disbelief in your research , and eventually your death!

Originally posted by Mapes
here is a interesting web site, than might help.www.rickrichards.com//ac/ac2_.htm or it might make u ask more questions

Stories of Anceint Subterranean Cities beneath South America, each connected through tunnels and caves for miles. One comment stated that it was four days travel from one city to another through these tunnels. Reminds me of scenes form "Lord of the Rings-The fellowship of the ring". The fellow ship journey through the mines of Moria to pass under the mountains.
There are also some great National Geographics on deep caves and passageways, 4000ft under the earth, with great halls the size of football fields in Southern Mexico. The local Indians regard these areas sacred and many times researchers were endangered by the outraged locals.

Check out this portion of Atla:

THE PALACE OF NIGHT

Beneath a volcanic mountain in a grotto partly natural, but reformed by the hand of art, dwelt Kirtyah the Sorceress, daughter of Lilith, a witch woman, and Obon, a reputed serpent-father. Its hidden entrance was in the remote part of a cypress grove, esteemed by the populace too sacred for any person to enter, save the high-priest (Thalok of Atlantis), who encouraged this convenient superstition.
When night fell upon the earth Thalok himself drove his fleet horses, Wind and Wave, to this gloomy forest, and after securing them within its precincts, entered the hollow trunk of a tree, which rested its huge bulk against the mountain.
He made a signal, the door unclosed, and a dwarf with a lamp in his hand appeared, and conducted him through labyrinthian passages, till they emerged in a subterranean palace, or temple, hewn from the solid bed of the mountain, which burst upon the vision like a dream of enchantment.
The immense dome of this marvel of architecture was cerulean blue in color, and glittering with a similitude of the heavenly host; around its base, carved from the rock, was stretched the emblem of infinity, a great serpent, holding its tail in its mouth. The dome was supported by giant pillars, left in place by the architects; while in the centre of the vault a revolving wheel, brilliant with phosphorescent light, served the double purpose of ventilator and midnight sun this unhallowed fane. The sides of the grand nave were tunnelled with arched openings, leading to shadowy conservatories and chambers that invited to repose.
As Thalok bowed in honor to Kirtyah, he noticed a line of light changed position within the hall, quivered and coiled itself in broad rings, from which protruded a serpent's head with vicious eyes and open jaws.
This illusive form was a dread reality, being no other than that of Lucksor, a yellow asp of great size and age, the inheritance a serpent father had bestowed upon Kirtyah-the fearful beast whose deadly powers were subservient to her magic arts.

Luxor=Luxurious

Luksor(Lucksor)=Luck

Las Vegas


To continue about the description of the Subterranean Palace under a great mountain where Kirtyah the Sorceress and Lucksor the yellow Asp of great size and age:

"Into these marble halls of night had been gathered all that pertains to luxurious living, not only magnificent decorations and household furniture, but statues single and in groups, embossed tablets, mosaics, self-luminous pictures, screens, and alters burning with fragrant incense."

I can't but help to notice the usage of "LU" in the ancient
Amerian Civilizations being found. Another website said that some interesting symbols were being found down 2000ft below the ocean between the Yucatan and Cuba which look like some sort of Cross( like a plus), with a surrounding frame around the plus symbol. The researchers found these symbols in the the small island of youth off Cuba. This symbol represents "Lu" or in other words "People of the Stars". Is this the fingerprints of the Lumerians?

Check this out:

Luck
Luxurious
Luminous
Luminary
Lust
Lucifer
Lunar
Lumerian

If there'd been trade, we'd have seen global evidence of it in the form of things that were never there before suddenly showing up. There were no bones of modern cattle found in the South America until after the Spanish brought cattle over during the time of the Conquests.

I rarely disagree with you, but will on this point... Remember, in addition to the cotton already pointed out....there are numerous ingredients used in the embalming of mummies, that were ONLY indigenous to South America, thus there HAD to be trade between the two...

Also, another pointed out the voyage test, was completed successfully.

The reason there isn't much evidence of it is likely the secrecy of such a trade partner.... Not to mention, the Atlantean civilization crumbled rather early in Egyptian history, so it was likely only rare trade visits, versus an organized system, throughout much of Egypts glory years....

Just look at the Alti-Plano in Bolivia, in South America, if you are looking for the city of Atlantis, whereas the continent of Atlantis, is still there, as it is the whole of South America. It is the CAPITAL CITY that went beneath the waves...

You'll find the red, white and black bricks, the orichalchum, the exact measurements as given by Plato, the rectangular plane, the channel to the sea, the rings of land and sea, etc. all there....fitting to a T the descriptions....even a local identical legend of their ancestors, whose capital city, and civilization, was purged by flooding.....

Pretty cool about what you guys have told me, and after like 3 weeks this topic is still alive lol

if atlantis is soo advanced and mystical why did it sink and if it didnt wouldnt the tribes in south america be just as powerful?

Isnt Atlantis supposed to be in the Antarctic?

Correct me if Im wrong.

nobody knows where it is...

i mean how did they cease to exist without any traces of artifacts

Originally posted by Tetsuo-51
Isnt Atlantis supposed to be in the Antarctic?

That's kinda what I was getting at with the first link; most posters on there seem to think so. I still say it's in the Bahamas.

Isnt Atlantis supposed to be in the Antarctic?

There are numerous theories to the whereabouts of Atlantis, including South American, islands, Antarctica and also undersea.

I remember seeing a documentary on History Channel about a island who think that they are the remains of the great Atlantis race, and it a famous visitor hot spot (I don't remember the name)

As for the real location of Atlantis, we don't have the slightest clue!!


[Edited on 2/27/2004 by surfup]

Maybe the government has found yraces of Atalntis and perhaps Atlantis!; but dont want us to know. They never want us to know.

Remember the fabled account of Hercules and the finding the Golden Apples. These apples were given to Juno at her wedding from the goddess of the earth and she entrusted the golden apples to the daughters of Hesperis, assisted by a watchful dragon. Atlas was one of the Titans who had warred against the gods, and after they were subdued, Atlas was condemned to bear on his shoulders the weight of the heavens. He was the father of the Hesperides, and Hercules thought, might, if anyone could, find the apples and bring them to him.

-Bulfinch's Mythology, The Age of Fable by Thomas Bulfinch 1855(1894). The Labors of Hurcules.

The Greater Antilles(Bahamas) associated with the Hesperides or Isles of Atlantis. The Lesser Antilles associated with Atlantides or the Isles of Proserpine.

First proposed by Hyde Clarke, that the seven Atlantides or daughters of Atlas were the mythical islands of the Greater and Lesser Antilles, each connected with one of the seven stars of the Pleiades.

-referenced from "Gateway to Atlantis" by Andrew Collins.


....The Oranges of Florida or the Islands of the Caribbean, being the source of the fabeled Golden Apples of the Hesperides is my own thought at the moment...


"At each intersection of the canals,(of the interior of the city of Atlantis) as also on the rock-bound shore, were massive gates of brass that could be closed in time of storm or invasion, making Atlantis one vast impregnable fortress, while across the streams were bridges of such proportions that an army could march over, or a ship pass under in safety. These encircling water-ways were so admirably arranged that at the pleasure of the gate-keepers vessels of the largest burthen could sweep majestically into the very centre of the island, or lie on its confines powerless to effect a landing; these were the coiled dragon of fable, that guarded the golden apples of the Hesperides; the gates were its hundred mouths."- Atla by Mrs. J. G. Smith 1886

oranges taste good and cheap why would it be soo prized in atlantis...wouldnt it rot???? if they kept it too long i think if they were soo advanced they would know it would rot...damn...

Alomst every civilization knew that vegetables, or fruit rot, espicially if Atlantis was an advaced civilization they would probably do something to the fruit not to make them rot.