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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 10:54 PM by SoLaR513
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A bush plane right? Why would one be be flying around a nuclear reactor that would have B-2 bombers sent after it. dosnt make much sense. Ive read
that the cooling towers could shake off and laugh at a cessna. Could pontoons be large enough to be loaded with enough explosives to do some damage
and still be lite enough to fly? Because thats the only way I see their official story holding water. Otherwise what was the threat?
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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 07:33 AM by Canada_EH
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Your setting up a what if situation that when you think about it the shape of the pontoons and the size with any explosive its not the best idea a
terrorist ever had. Also a B-2 would not be sent in for the defense of a nuclear reactor unless its a ground threat of some sort which I then don't
see the need for a 500 pound bomb.
The packed with explosives idea is interesting but the way that the plane would impact the plane with speed etc i don't think would be enough..... I
could be wrong but yeah if they have used large planes before why not that instead of a dinky cessna. All interesting but a lil too far fetched to me.
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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 08:36 AM by SoLaR513
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I agree it does sound far fetched and I wouldnt think that they would send B-2s in that situation but in our friend JPM1602's story thats what
happened. Their was B-2 activity as well as fighters sent to intercept a cessna sized plane with pontoons on it that had flown over a Nuclear reactor,
according to the local media. I was just trying to rule out that it would have been that kind of craft warranting that kind of response.
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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 09:46 AM by Canada_EH
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F-16, 15 & 18s have all be scrambled at times to intercept cessna and similar sized aircraft over areas that the should not be. remember back when
here in Canada a cessna fly into the Coldlake test range and he was nicely escorted out beside armed CF-188s and told to land at the AFB and was then
charged.
So yes intercepts happen but the B-2 is useless in said role and its frankly a waste of its airframe life.
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reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 09:58 AM by SoLaR513
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In that instance the plane was dealt with, escorted away. In this scenario it was lost, got away and there were B-2's involved. Unless I got the
story wrong.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 11:27 PM by TheAgentNineteen
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I used to see intercepts occuring all the time where I'm located. I usually heard them more than saw them, but I knew what was going on by the manner
in which they flew (If you're familiar with Military Craft, you know the distinct sound of Afterburners).
I've seen plenty of awesome flight displays in my time. I could most likely write a book on them, but one of the most random was two F-16's on
Afterburners flying overhead at night, they cut-back and slowed down, then alternatively cut their running lights off, lit back up and re-engaged
afterburners taking off on a common FLT Path nearby. I was just getting out of my car after parking it in front of my house, when I heard the Jets on
Afterburners. I looked up knowing I'd see them, and then all of that occured. It had to be one of the most random but most awesome encounters at the
same time. I always get hype seeing Fighter Jets performing manuevers overhead, it's one of my favorite spectacles to witness. As all ground pounders
in the Military say, they are the "Angels Overhead", and you truly feel a sense of awe and protection when witnessing such displays.
I guess I could say I'm like the OP in the sheer fact that I just happen to experience a lot of this cool stuff randomly. Some of it is because I've
purposely been to see these craft, others when I was near an AirBase but just by chance came across flight displays, and some were seen just while
chilling near my house (No, I don't live near a base).
Also, to reply to a few of the issues on this thread:
No, B2 Bombers are not scrambled for intercepts, only Fighter Craft are. The B2 would be about as useful as a Mid-Air Ram, unless of course it was
armed with an Air-to-Air Missile that as of yet remains Classified. Simply put though, I've never seen a B2 Scrambled for anything but bomb runs.
As far as Bomb runs, the B2 has changed since the F-117 of the First Gulf War. It now hits ground targets from 60 + Miles out, so the overflight of
targets is not a necessity anymore. They can still Carpet Bomb, but that is only done from High Altitude.
ShatteredSkies, as for the 500 FT ALT rule, that would apply to all Airplanes under normal circumstances. If a Passenger Jet for instance became
crippled and couldn't meet that criteria, or a Mil. Jet found it necessary to hit the deck, then of course all rules are out the window. It seems
like you've done your HW though
I once witnessed an F-117 flyover my High School Football game at night. No one else seemed to notice it, but I saw it due to the glow produced from
the field lights. I don't remember hearing it, but then again it was a loud game. It was flying only a few hundred feet off the deck, but it didn't
frighten me as I've seen quite a bit.
If anything SoLaR513, I would chalk the entire experience up to an amazing opportunity to see what many will never witness. You should feel lucky.
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reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 02:11 AM by SoLaR513
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It was pretty amazing. Weird stuff seems to follow me around. I have a knack for being in the right place at the right time to witness the bizare. I
seem to have this sixth sense for looking up at just the right time too, because Ive seen all kinds of things in the sky.
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reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 07:33 PM by bdn12
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wut else have you seen?
because about 1 week ago, it was 10:30 p.m. and I was just falling asleep when two red lights caught my eye. These lights were moving very fast
(disappeared across horizon within seconds) and it seemed like they were low, but they didn't make any noise. I'm not a big fan of conspiracy
theories, but it really got me thinking and I haven't been able to tell what they were. Maybe you know?
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reply posted on 18-2-2008 @ 11:01 PM by SoLaR513
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Were the lights flashing? Did they appear to be affixed to a single craft or more than one? Commercial airliners use red lights but they would be
flashing. If it was far away and you were inside the sound might have been to faint to hear. Sometimes commercial craft don't make a sound until
after they pass. Its hard to say for sure what you saw but really it could have been anything. Oh yeah, was there anything particular about the shape
or size of the lights that caught your attention?
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reply posted on 19-2-2008 @ 11:21 PM by bdn12
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The lights were not flashing and were actually like orbiting around each other. I can assure you this was no commercial aircraft-I know their speeds
and flight patterns. This object(s) also looked low and were moving INCREDIBLY fast-disappearing across the horizon in a matter of seconds. It just
baffles me, because I have seen so many planes in the night sky, but never anything remotely close to this.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 06:34 PM by SoLaR513
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I think its safe to rule out a commercial flight. I guess it was a UFO. Definitely unidentified. Good looking out  To bad you didnt catch it on
video.
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reply posted on 1-3-2008 @ 11:08 PM by gimme_some_truth
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Interesting. I live used to live about 2 miles from a private airport. usually just those single engine sesna's and some corprate jets would land and
take off from there. but one day about 10:00 am. I heard something way off in the distance that didnt sound like your average sesna or corprate jet.
so I run outside and it gets louder and louder untill this f-16, or what i assume is an f-16 ( i dont know much about aircraft) comes zooming by
really low. the house shook so much I thought it was gonna collapse. you could hear it land at the private airport. I went up there later on to try to
find out what was up. I didnt see the jet anywhere and the most I could get out of anyone was that they werent allowed to talk about. At the time I
lived about 45-50 miles away from fort hood. I never did figure out what the deal was.
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reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 08:09 AM by SoLaR513
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I find it very interesting they claimed not to be able to talk about it. We are left to assume things are amiss. If all was on the up and up they
could have offered all manner of explanations.
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reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 08:14 AM by Zaphod58
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He could broke in flight and was landing at the first available airport. He had to set it down, and they were available. Private airports are very
closed off to outsiders in some cases. They won't just talk to any person off the street that comes "nosing around". They also might not have
KNOWN anything, but people don't like to admit that they don't know something, so it sounds a lot better to say you can't talk about it.
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reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 03:25 PM by gimme_some_truth
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Originally posted by SoLaR513
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I find it very interesting they claimed not to be able to talk about it. We are left to assume things are amiss. If all was on the up and up they
could have offered all manner of explanations.
Yea. I thought it was odd too. I didnt see any military personel or anything. The people that I talked to worked at the private airport and probably
didnt know much of anything anyways. I used to think that mabye it was some kind of emergency landing but if that was the case I dont think they would
keep it such a secret would they?
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 08:31 PM by Anonymous ATS
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actually, your story is highly credible. i was just outside, it was maybe 8:25 to 8:40 eastern time (NJ) and its summer so it was still fairly light
out. i hear a loud thunder and i turned and looked around. i didnt see anything until about 45 seconds later. i see this black figure, the stealth
bomber, come out of the sky from the east, going towards the west. it flew over me and my house, kept going straight, and made an extremely sharp turn
about half a mile to a mile out. and i still heard it even when i couldnt see it. my brother who was working at a gym about a mile and a half away
heard it and people were coming in and telling him that there was a stealth bomber overhead. 30 seconds later a helicopter come from the same
direction, and went in the same exact direction as the bomber. i live maybe 25 to 30 minutes from NYC. and that plane (or UFO when the government
doesnt want to talk about it) was very low. it turned so sharply, that i could see the reflection of the windows. strange, very strange. what was
going on? i dont know.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 09:28 PM by Cyberbian
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I got buzzed by every exotic aircraft we have. It was 1991 and I lived in an apartment on Oahu on the side of the crater where the military graveyard
is. The president visited, and they put on a show.
The jets flew in so slow they looked like they were almost hovering, I had the impresson they were moving about 20 miles an hour. Soundlessly gliding
level with me about a half mile away. I am pretty sure that there is no conventional plane than can do that. If they aren't recycled UFO technology,
the aliens must wish they had them!
They did tilts left and right. And I had a better view from the balcony of my Appartment on top of the hill than the president down in the harbor.
What speed is something moving if you can see it for about 30 seconds within an 8 mile space between mountains? My math says 16 miles an hour, you
can argue about the subjectiveity of the approximate time I saw them, but even if you double the estimate, that's just 32 miles an hour.
I guarantee you will not find that speed listed anywhere. They looked like balloons floating over Oahu! It wasn't aerodynamics holding them up, I
feel pretty sure of that. I don't know one jet from another but there were about 20 different stealth styles.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 09:35 PM by Zaphod58
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I was there for that flyby. There was an F-117, and a B-2 involved. Everything else was conventional. There was just about everything in the
inventory there for that ceremony, including many old warbirds that they flew in off a carrier just for that.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 10:06 PM by Boone 870
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