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posted on Feb, 16 2008 @ 05:52 PM
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I tell you what eyewitness. When you've been having most of the same arguments, and most of the same responses for several YEARS come talk to me. I've been having this same "debate" for the last several years, and I'm sick of people calling names, and accusing people of being things they aren't because they don't agree with them. So yes, I am taking my ball and going home, and getting out of the 9/11 forums, to stay this time.




posted on Feb, 16 2008 @ 11:35 PM
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Excellent, Congratulations, The truth has been victorious and debunkers are dropping like flies.

So far no one has been able to debunk this thread , the daniel lewin thread, the shanksville thread, and the WTC 7 thread.

Good Job. This is just the beginning.


Cheers all, have a great week.



posted on Feb, 16 2008 @ 11:37 PM
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a) all of those 'drills'

b) the 'mock' hijackings

c) the 'bio terror drills'

d) oh, and the biggie...the 'cruise missile intercepts'....!!!!

Sorry, I am laughing a little too hard





You want the names of the Drill taking place on 911?
911 WAR GAMES AND TERROR DRILLS
Amalgam Virgo- Air defense against rogue state/cruise missiles, hijackings.
Vigilant Guardian- Air defense against hijacking.
Northern Guardian- Air Defense.
Vigilant Warrior- NORAD exercise.
Northern Vigilance- NORAD deploys fighters to Alaska.
Amalgam Warrior- Large live-fly air defense and air intercept.
Global Guardian- Nuclear warfighting.
Crown Vigilance- Air combat command exercise.
Apollo Guardian- Large scale live-fly air defense and intercept.
NRO (National Reconnaissance Office)- Crashing planes into buildings.
Fort Meyers, Virginia-Firemen (Pentagon)- “aircraft crash refresher course.”
TRIPOD II, Manhattan- Response to bio-chemical attack.
Timely Alert II – Emergency response to bomb attack.

You cant disprove any of this because it's FACT.



posted on Feb, 18 2008 @ 10:01 AM
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A Calm Voice as Disaster Unfolded in the Sky


By the New York Times, January 28, 2004


By Phillip Shenon



WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 — Betty Ann Ong, a veteran flight attendant for American Airlines, could not have sounded much calmer on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, as she tried to describe the mayhem aboard Flight 11.

"The cockpit is not answering the phone," she said from a jump seat at the back of the Boeing 767, calling to the ground from one of the crew phones that she would normally use to communicate with other crew members on the plane. "There is somebody stabbed in business class. They can't breathe in business class. They've got Mace or something."

A tape of a four-minute portion of the 20-minute phone call received at the airline's reservation center in Cary, N.C., at 8:20 a.m., was played on Tuesday at a hearing of the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, the first time the recording was heard in public.

The panel's chairman, Thomas H. Kean, said the commission decided to allow the public to hear the tape as a demonstration of the "heroism" of Ms. Ong and the "duty, courage, selflessness and love" that was evident in the midst of the chaos of Sept. 11.

While the tape was difficult to understand at times, it clearly conveyed the situation of Ms. Ong and most of the passengers and other crew members forced to the back of the plane, with at least two flight attendants and a passenger stabbed and dying, and with some sort of chemical released into the air in the front of the plane.


HEre is more transcripts www.mishalov.com...



posted on Feb, 18 2008 @ 11:37 AM
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The lady that took Betty's call said that it happened at ' just after 8 am " NOT 20 minutes later. They will never release the rest of that tape becvause what would be heard would make anyone sit up and take notice.

Of COURSE Betty nwas dead calm; why not? She was taking part in a game. Betty saw NOTHING herself and was merely repeating that Amy Sweeny told her from the fron of the plane. Doesn't it seem strange that the stew's would be wondering IF they had been highjacked or not? If you read the words, it all starts to add up.

Also, Amy Sweeny showed NO emotion during the ' highjack ' scam, but did show plenty when she called her kid earlier sorry she had missed him ...MORE upset about not being able to see your kid get on the bus..but later when highjacked she is totally calm? No way. No mater how calm someone ACTS, there is always signs of distress in the voice and demeanor. Neither lady showed any sign of even minor anxiety on any call.

Imagine this ludicrous scenario: Somehow the ' highjackers ' in first class manage to : Shoot Daniel Lewin in the head ( Amy says he was knifed to death, no gun mentioned..but the FBI says Lewin was shot in the head..hmm); take over the cockpits and kill or disable both pilots with no one noticing anywhere in the plane but first class ( damn those curtains are thick!!); Show Amy Sweeny a BOMB with wires yet allow her to live despite having allegedly killed at least one crew member already and possible as many as four; keep all this quiet and secret from all the other passengers and crew while it was happening; fly the plane to target and crash perfectly.

NO sounds on ANY call recorded have even ONE example of passengers either screaming, talking, praying or any other sound that would indicate an emergency was happening. The Amy to Betty calls were full of clues:

IF Amy had been shown a bomb by the highjackers, why didn't she tell Betty? If Amy was aware of the highjacking and cockpit takeover , why didn't she tell Betty that they were being highjacked instead of what she did? Betty was puzzled: The crew was guessing and assuming that something was wrong, on the basis of not being able to contact the cockpit!! If Amy was relaying the info that the Govt. claims she had, why would Betty be puzzled as to what was happening?

After all, if a team of highjackers shoots ( or stabs, depending on which lie you accept ) several people and takes the cockpit somehow, and shows a bomb to Amy, why would there be any question as to what was happening? It would be pretty plain, wouldn't it? Amy never tells us what happened to the pilots, now does she? One would think that if she was so close to the action that a highjacker took the time to show her a bomb, that she would have SOME clue as to how three highjackers could kill and move two pilots, keeping them in the cockpit while they flew the plane!!

No mention of pilots, of course. No reason ever given how the cockpits of FOUR jets could be taken without even ONE pilot managing to push a button right next to their thumb and yelling an alert on the radio. FOUR times: Perfect and total and sislent takeovers of all the cockpits. 100% success rates at doing so so fast that not even ONE pilot among EIGHT was able to push a button. Amazing, these Saudi's, huh? Rambo and Superman in one. Faster than a speeding jet, and stronger than all of the pilots. Anyone that can believe the official lie either has no rational logic in them or has not read the evidence.

It is laughable, if not for the tragedy involved, to believe that ANY of this could be true. If you take apart the stories and read the transcripts, it does NOT take a genius to see that we are being hoodwinked into accepting a story so outlandish that ONLY a dumbed down populace and a controlled media could allow it to be seen as anything but a bad joke.

It is plain and clear what happened: The plane was being used as a part of the GAMES and the crew was told that this was an exercise and that they would be helping their country by simply playing along as if it was real. They had a script. Betty is reading from a script at times, and is repeating what Amy told her in others. WHY would there be ANY question in the minds of any crew member if the events described by the calls were real? WHY would they have to guess that something was wrong? Why not just walk up to the cockpit and knock on the door is the phone didn't work?

It seems that AMY was not willing or allowed to leave business, Betty was not allowe to enter business, none of them ever talked about why sopmeone didn't just PUSH THE CURTAIN BACK AND SEE WHAT WAS UP IN FIRST CLASS? That would settle what was going on, but it just never was discussed.Amy and Betty were fall guys, just like the rest, for the plan that day. The perps wanted some confirmation of their phony story for later use, anmd that was what this was all about. BETTY confirms what AMY says, not because she saw anything, but because of what Amy told her. That is what the perps wanted: Stories that make it sound like a highjacking took place.

HOW MANY hundreds of ' inexplicable anomalies ' can one accept before a red flag goes up? If you came home and found your window broken out, and a trail of your belongings strewn across the yard, would you assume everything BUT the fact that you had been burgled? Would that be the last thing you would deduce? Or the first? All the evidence points to an inside job using the games as cover and to provide some ' proof ' that they can trumpet later that will placate the people who never invesitigate anything and trust the media and government.

A REAL detective with the ability to gather the REAL evidence unhindered could wrap this case in a week. It stinks to high heaven, the entire official story. It cannot be true. It is not true. There is NO evidence that proves it true. Nothing but circumstantial and preplanetd and arranged evidence will be looked at by the perps, who are the ones that investigate or control the investigations anyway!! I would LOVE to meet the guy ( Lewin?) that planned this one out; this is one slick and smart, and cold blooded man.

Remember, the shadow intel main men have taken over the executive brancjh and are consolidating all power into the hands of the perps and their cronies; This has been done and is almost complete. Bush now has the legal (?) ability to declare martial law after the next Neocon/ Israeli false flag job and end the charade once and for all. Every step in the plan has been done and is ready for implementation.

People, just think about this: Since the government simply ignores any questions that try and get to the bottom of the ' anomalies ', or denies the FOIA requests wholesale to keep the proof hidden, we are far beyond the stage where justice is going to be done. Believe this: There are many FBI and NSA and CIA people who know damned well what happened, these people are not stupid and could not possible believe the official story, yet they will shut up and allow the nation to be destroyed before they will risk their jobs and money, and safety.

Sibel Edmonds has more guts that ANY FBI agent, government stooge , Neocon murderer, or White House traitor. The American people are lazy, dumbed down and shallow sheep who would rather follow the Bush cabal to hell rather than open their eyes and minds. So be it. But for those of us not thick enough to believe in fairy tales, it means that we are not going to get any real action until the media is willing to do its job. They are not. NOT ONE major news service carried the Sibel story...not one!! The author had to take it to Europe to get it printed!!

If THAT is not complicit coverup, nothing is. By merely parroting the lies of the players, and ignoring all real evidence, they help the perps to continue the coverup. God help America. I truly believe that we will see, in the next six months, the beginning of the end. Bush will never allow himself to retire as the obvious failed liar, drunk, cokehead and idiot that he is: His Napoleonic complex andsexual identity confusiuon will push him to commit crimes against humanity until he can see HIMSELF as some hero and savior of America for the future. That sick freak actually wants people a hundred years from now to credit HIM, of all people, with turing America into the only power on earth, and one that rules with the NWO to domiante the world.

It makes me almost ill physically to think of how many people have no clue even to this day about Bldg. 7. Even that should be known by every schoolkid in this nation. If America was to have any chance, the truth must be told. And if there is ONE thing that the Bush/ Cheney/Israeli cabal will flee from like the plauge, it is the truth. Truth is anathema to the men who did this. Truth is what they say it is!!

Back to Betty ONG. Poor Betty and all the rest were obviously played for paatsiess so the perps could have some calls that they could edit, misquote and alter so that their story would be a bit more believable then it was beforee they had this ' evidence'. It all ties in; this was one sweet plan, and the fact that it turned from GAME to real in an instant says all we need to know: It is IMPOSSIBLE tro believe that this was anything BUT an inside job.



posted on Feb, 18 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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Are you saying all of these drills took place on 9/11?



posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Shataken
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Are you saying all of these drills took place on 9/11?



Has there been any evidence to the contrary?

Just waiting for the guy who says.... No proof here.

they are obviously not smart and very ignorant.


[edit on 22-2-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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Wonder why 9/11 truth lacks a Pulitzer Prize? they use just pure hearsay and make it all up. I have found zero evidence to back up this OP implication; does that make it a lie?

The list of facts to support the OP:
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posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 02:17 PM
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THere is more evidence to prove that the official story is really the most insane conspiracy of all.

It cannot be hidden no matter how many debunkers come one and say "No it wasnt, blablabla, whats your sources, blablabla"

[edit on 22-2-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 09:11 PM
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Well, Ivan...once again, posted a lot of stuff that you got where?

I mean, are you in the military? Sorry if I missed that part of your credentials. Did you learn all of this special info from 'inside' sources?

BTW, it is 'Ft. Myer, Virginia'...not *Ft. Meyers, Virginia*

You see, I lived just about 1.3 miles away from Ft. Myer, just off Pershing Drive, on Garfield Street. Google Map it, if you care to do some research and not parrot stuff from un-named sources that is usually hearsay and typical Internet nonsense.

Used to be able to go on the base and watch the fireworks every Fourth...nice big lawn facing the Mall, great view of the fireworks. That got shut down (Homeland Security?? What a JOKE!!)



posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 10:14 PM
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No one has denied that these games were taking place on 911.

911 WAR GAMES AND TERROR DRILLS
Amalgam Virgo- Air defense against rogue state/cruise missiles, hijackings.
Vigilant Guardian- Air defense against hijacking.
Northern Guardian- Air Defense.
Vigilant Warrior- NORAD exercise.
Northern Vigilance- NORAD deploys fighters to Alaska.
Amalgam Warrior- Large live-fly air defense and air intercept.
Global Guardian- Nuclear warfighting.
Crown Vigilance- Air combat command exercise.
Apollo Guardian- Large scale live-fly air defense and intercept.
NRO (National Reconnaissance Office)- Crashing planes into buildings.
Fort Meyers, Virginia-Firemen (Pentagon)- “aircraft crash refresher course.”
TRIPOD II, Manhattan- Response to bio-chemical attack.
Timely Alert II – Emergency response to bomb attack.



posted on Feb, 28 2008 @ 12:45 PM
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Recall also, Ivan, that the 7/7 bombings in london also had the amazing ' coincidence' of having the exact same scenario played out: Games were authorized by a client to a company that does these drills. Hundreds of actors were hired and placed..and at the exact same locations as the games, were the bombs!! The man in charge said on TV that he was amazed when he learned that what had been only a game turned real, at at the exact same locations and circumstances.

The lapdog media of course ignored this screaming evidence of complicity and of course nop one in their right mind could possible believe that it is possible mathematically or any other way to accept the story that it was all coincidental...no way on earth. The odds are beyond imagining. The exact same places where the game bombs were to go off, the real one's did. Same times, same places...evidence showing that the bombs were in fact under the trains and the fall guys who got killed were in fact players with no idea what was happening to them.

What better cover for the perps than using the game people and resources all the way..except making it live and not a game any more. It really is brilliant, and only the highest levels of authority in the USA both militarily and politically could account for the misuse of the system to attack ourselves. The Neocon perps have pulled it off, and insulated themselves against any real investigations and we know that justice will never be done..officially that is.

I am certain that there are major military and private people who still love the Constitution and are appalled at what they see facing us: If a group would simply take a stand and mount a legal coup, and restore justice, we might ...might, survive as a nation and not slip into NWO slavery and poverty as planned. The smart men in high places know damned well what happened on 9-11, and they know that assassination is no problem for the Cheney/Bush/Kissinger/ Brzezinski/Rockefeller/Israeli-etc.etc. cabal's when they start a plan going.

Anthrax in the mail to the most liberal senators stopped any and all objections to the prepared Patriot Act, which destroyed the Constitution in major ways. Weak sister congressmen and women afraid for their very lives quietly gave the Bush gang law after law..anything he wanted, no restrcitions..and the Repug's, loyal always to money and war machines, think that if they follow the insane path to destruction that Bush glories in now, all will be well....it staggers the sound mind to try and understand how they cannot see the obvious..or seeing it, could ignore it.

The slick lawyers, manicured and moussed for their bathroom stall gropings in between political sessions designed to strip all the remaining rights away that we still enjoy to some small degree, parade before the cameras spewing the same old tired LIES that we have heard for all these years: The Muslims are coming to kill us all. Bush can be trusted with all power. Al Queda is everywhere and if we do not give up all our rights, they will take America and we will all be wearing burka's on the streets. The war was about Saddam being a meanie..since the proof of the lies that were told by the Bush cabal to get us into phony wars for conquest and profit is absolute and undeniable, Saddam being a meanie is enough justification, right?

The American average IQ is nothing to be asahmed of, but the average American level ofawareness of the true facts concerning any issue is appallingly low, almost non-existent. Most of us cannot tell the inquirer what the name of their representatives are, or which party they belong to..or what the name of the company is that the VP Cheney was CEO of prior to selecting himself as VP..( answer: Halliburton). How many billions in no bid contracts were given to Halliburton at the start of the war to this day? The average American is more likley to know all about Brittany and Roger Clemens and their selfish nonsense than about current events and world shattering facts.

We deserve what is coming, because we have lost the desire to insure that freedom is protected from evil designs of evil men..we actually TRUST..can you imagine that? In this day and age , when literally no one and nothing can really be trusted, with few exceptions, the American public is content to sit back and ASSUME that some decent and law supporting entity will do the right thing and make sure that we go on as a free nation. They assume and they trust; but they do not verify. Remember Ronnie Reagan, the doddering old rascal that was heavy into the Iran Contra madness? Wel, old Ronnie had a saying about the Russkies: Trust, but verify. No one verifies any more, and those that do are shoved aside by the players and their ilk, who want what is coming.

God help us all.



posted on Feb, 28 2008 @ 02:23 PM
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eyewitness86, dude you sum it up so clearly. I wish that the MSM would carry articles like your's on the TV and in the newspapers.

It seems to me, that our future might be looking more like a Mad Max movie, scratching a living in desolation. The only question is which generation will it all take place? There's probably a couple of billion people on Earth who are bluffed by the lies and won't see it coming. I feel sorry for Betty and the others, who participated in a game gone wrong.



posted on Mar, 3 2008 @ 10:20 AM
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Good post eyewitness.

The truth about everything the disgusting U.s administrations and agencies have commited is coming out and cannot be stopped.


Debunkers are collecting like bugs on the grill of our car.



Contrats you truth seekers, this is only the beggining. What a great time to be alive.

Would be nice if all the debunkers and official liars would register their names on some list. There will room for the rightous after that.


edited to remove unnecessary verbal attack on the opposing side of the arguement and removed the offensive suggestion of how to handle the folks who oppose your argument.



[edit on 3-3-2008 by Crakeur]



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 10:28 AM
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Ya seems like what happened what the War game/ Hijacking exercises taking place on 911 was used as a cover to achieve their objective.

Kansas City shuffle.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by eyewitness86
Recall also, Ivan, that the 7/7 bombings in london also had the amazing ' coincidence' of having the exact same scenario played out: Games were authorized by a client to a company that does these drills. Hundreds of actors were hired and placed..and at the exact same locations as the games, were the bombs!! The man in charge said on TV that he was amazed when he learned that what had been only a game turned real, at at the exact same locations and circumstances.





911 Wargames were the cover for the terrorist attacks.



posted on Sep, 11 2008 @ 09:05 AM
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After reviewing the evidence, it weasy to come to the conclusion that everything that happened on 911 was all part of the exercises planned that day.



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 09:30 PM
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is there any relatives of betty ong who have came foward and said she was missing, and they actually did have a funeral with her remains since they were recovered.

i have to say. i'm no conspiuracy theorist and even i can say this seems very fishy, and suspect.

thanks for the thread. great info and it's great to see this talked about.



posted on Dec, 24 2008 @ 05:52 PM
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Hi folks. First post. been doing a lot of reading here and decided to sign up.

We all seem to know this is is a drill call but I did a little 'analysis' anyway..
I've been a music producer for a bunch of years now and this doesn't qualify me as an audio analyst in any way but I sure know what an edited waveform looks like and this Betty Ong file has been tampered with in a few places... her speech cutting off before she's finished saying 'yes' along with the plane noise cutting out at the same time with the operator still audible suggests that this may have been recorded and then the plane noise added afterwards..

The whole initial 'flight 12' thing is a dead give away right off the bat and like most others in this thread have said the lack of emotion has got drill written all over it.

When Nydia at AA operations calls AA emergencies line, she says she's monitoring the call and has been advised that the pilot and everyone has been stabbed' but Ong says to her at least twice that she can't call through to the cockpit so how would Nydia get that information if Ong hadn't spoken to the cockpit?

Ong also says someone's trying to call medical and then gets cut off, if they're mid air, how are any medics gonna get to them?

What a poor job they did on this one.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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This is my first post, these disgusting allegations some of the people on here made me join this forum. In my opinion, the slightly believable conspiracies such as Pentagon hit by a missile, Flight 93 shot down, etc., get debunked so people who can't accept the truth turn to these extremely bizarre theories that make absolutely no sense what so ever. 9/11 conspirators love to point out inconsistencies in the real 9/11 story, but are hard pressed to form a story of their own that makes any sense. Betty Ong's call is completely authentic. Yes its slightly confusing, but anyone in that situation is going to be stressed, confused, and stutter. As for the whole mace thing, she said they couldn't breath in business class and she later on says someone is coming back from business. She may have been unable to breath in business class but another one of the F/As may have been able to pass through the business class cabin to relay her information from the two F/As that were stabbed. The reason there weren't any screams or commotion in the background is because she was in the rear galley of the 767 in the back of the coach section which is far away from the first class and business class sections. There were 9 F/As aboard this flight, (F/As stands for flight attendants in aviation speak) the F/As seemed to have been gathering information from further forward and from the stabbed F/As and possible the first and business class passengers who witnessed the attacks to Betty and Amy who was also in the back of the plane.

The F/As were "loosely" following their training. They weren't interfering with the Hijackers and keeping the passengers calm. I don't believe they were taught to call the ground in the event of a hijacking. The coach passengers were told there was a medical emergency in first class and the first and business passengers were probably told to go along with this also contributing to the reason why there was no audible commotion on the phone calls. There was no revolt because the F/As had no idea that this wasn't a "typical" hijackers make demands and take the crew and passengers hostage, authorities make demands, passengers and crew released type hijacking. I know that the F/As knew towards the end of the call that something wasn't right because the airplane was fly erratically, but I don't think they knew that the pilots had been stabbed or that the hijackers were flying the plane. Nydia probably made a mistake when she said "the pilot every bodies been stabbed." Theres no record of Amy or Betty, the only ones to have contact with the ground, saying that the pilots have been stabbed.

In regards to how the hijackers entered the flight deck. My most likely guess is that they stabbed the F/As, stole their keys, and then gained access or they had keys of their own. I don't think they kicked the door in or "lured" the pilots out or the F/As into the flight deck. In regards to Betty saying "we can't get inside," one or more of the F/As probably used their key to try and open the door or knocked on the door and the flight deck gave no reply. This goes along with the "no body move please" comments from the hijacker pilot. He thought he was broadcasting to the cabin and probably said that in response to one or more of the F/As knocking on the cockpit door or trying to open the door. Amy Sweeney also stated that she saw one of the hijackers show her a black box with a red and yellow wire wrapped around it.

If anyone has any more questions regarding the actions of the (I know others will disagree but IMO heroic F/As) aboard that flight, please ask me. I have more than five years of experience in aviation and I hope I can clear up any confusion you may have about what went on in that cabin. For those of you seeking the "real" truth, please consider what seems more plausible. The conspiracy "story" where everyone points out inaccuracies but never forms any real conclusion, or the official story which actually makes sense.





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