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Originally posted by Mindless
But your point is moot till abortion and prostitution is legal . Sorry
This proves you have no right to your body at all alive why when you die would you all the sudden get these rights?
Originally posted by dawnstar
I wonder how tempting it will be to cause the premature death of the poor, or homeless, or disabled....just to have the organs for those other, more important citizens in society.
How many family members will be pressured to pull the plug before they are ready? If my heart is beating, I am alive....so, no, society doesn't have the right to my organs just yet!! Unless, of course, I chose beforehand to give up my pathetic existance for someone else.
[edit on 14-1-2008 by dawnstar]
Originally posted by scaredlady
[A person in my town had a crack coc aine induced stroke. The ambulance took him to some garage. and waited for him to die.
Originally posted by dawnstar
I wonder how tempting it will be to cause the premature death of the poor, or homeless, or disabled....just to have the organs for those other, more important citizens in society.
Violating the hospital's protocol and state law, Roozrokh took over caring for Navarro before he was declared dead and ordered a nurse to give Navarro abnormally high doses of morphine and Ativan to hasten death, according to an investigation by the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Prosecutors also allege that Roozrokh injected Betadine, a topical antiseptic, into Navarro's stomach. The attempted organ donation occurred on a Friday night. Navarro died the next day at 8 a.m. Operating room nursing staff alerted hospital administrators the following Monday about the incident. The hospital then notified police and state and federal health officials.
Originally posted by malcr
I was waiting for this argument! It is ridiculous to suggest this. Anyone willing to participate in such a "scheme" would be willing to participate in the abudction, murder and organ removal NOW!!!!!!!!!! JESUS!!!!!!!
Secondly, an opt out system would ensure that there were enough organs potentially available and therefore there would be no need for any "fast tracking" irrespective of its nature.
MR. BROWN:
Yes?
MAN:
Hello. Uhh, can we have your liver?
MR. BROWN:
My what?
MAN:
Your liver. It's a large, ehh, glandular organ in your abdomen.
ERIC:
[sniff]
MAN:
You know, it's, uh,-- it's reddish-brown. It's sort of, uhh,--
MR. BROWN:
Yeah,-- y-- y-- yeah, I know what it is, but... I'm using it, eh.
ERIC:
Come on, sir.
MR. BROWN:
Hey! Hey! Stop!
ERIC:
Don't muck us about.
MR. BROWN:
Stop! Hey! Hey! Stop it. Hey!
MAN:
Hallo.
MR. BROWN:
Ge-- get off.
MAN:
What's this, then? Mmh.
MR. BROWN:
A liver donor's card.
MAN:
Need we say more?
ERIC:
No!
MR. BROWN:
Listen! I can't give it to you now. It says, 'in the event of death'. Uh. Oh! Ah. Ah. Eh.
MAN:
No one who has ever had their liver taken out by us has survived.
MR. BROWN:
Agh.
ERIC:
Just lie there, sir. It won't take a minute.
CART MASTER:
Ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm not dead!
CART MASTER:
What?
CUSTOMER:
Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm not dead!
CART MASTER:
'Ere. He says he's not dead!
CUSTOMER:
Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm not!
CART MASTER:
He isn't?
CUSTOMER:
Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER:
No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
CART MASTER:
Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
DEAD PERSON:
I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER:
Oh, don't be such a baby.
CART MASTER:
I can't take him.
DEAD PERSON:
I feel fine!
CUSTOMER:
Well, do us a favour.
CART MASTER:
I can't.
CUSTOMER:
Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
CART MASTER:
No, I've got to go to the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
CUSTOMER:
Well, when's your next round?
CART MASTER:
Thursday.
DEAD PERSON:
I think I'll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER:
You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?
DEAD PERSON: [singing]
I feel happy. I feel happy.
[whop]
CUSTOMER:
Ah, thanks very much.
CART MASTER:
Not at all. See you on Thursday.
Originally posted by TrojanNutzConspiracy
I mean i think i read somewhere they will make any where between
250,000$ to 1,000,000 u.s.a. dollars off the organs they collect!!
To hell with that!!!
Somebodies making a boat load of cash and its not me!!!
Originally posted by realyweely
Originally posted by TrojanNutzConspiracy
I mean i think i read somewhere they will make any where between
250,000$ to 1,000,000 u.s.a. dollars off the organs they collect!!
To hell with that!!!
Somebodies making a boat load of cash and its not me!!!
You 'read somewhere' ? where?
In the UK the NHS is free, it is illegal to sell or trade in organs. Any donated organs will go to the first matching person on the list irrespective of financial or any other status.
Q Could my donated organs and tissue go to a private patient?
A Possibly. Patients entitled to treatment on the NHS are always given priority for donated organs. These include UK citizens, members of Her Majesty's forces serving abroad and patients covered by a reciprocal health agreement with the UK.
Other patients would only be offered an organ if there were no suitable patients entitled to treatment under the NHS. Every effort is made to ensure that a donated organ does not go to waste if there is someone who can benefit.
Donated tissue is made available to any hospital in the UK where there is a patient in need
Originally posted by sean_uk
Private hospitals are not "Non-Profit" organizations. Obviously, they are going to "profit" when the new scam... I mean scheme comes in. There have been organ scandals in the past, and they still happen all over the world... but this is the worst.
Originally posted by sean_uk
This has been planned for a few years now, by the Nanny State, and has been carefully constructed so as not to appear too radical & controversial; careful not to upset certain religions & beliefs; careful, because they need "LIVE" donors. People who are in comas and on life-support systems will have there organs removed while they are still alive...
Originally posted by sean_uk
So, all you "brain doners" stop thinking that you are better than those who prefer to keep them selves to themselves (literally!); stop thinking that you are morally superior, and that those who do not wish to donate are "selfish".
Originally posted by sean_uk
The typical statement from doners is: "well, what good's yer liver to ye, when yer dead?". How many times have I heard statements like this, almost word for word, which only proves that they've heard somebody else say it, and they're just copying cos they're braindead sheep!
Originally posted by sean_uk
FRANKENSTEIN!!!
Originally posted by sean_uk
What do Grave Robbers, Cannibals, Nazis & Serial Killers have in common?
They all take things from the dead. (presumed consent?)
What's the difference in taking somebody's liver & kidney (transplant), and eating somebody's liver & kidney?
Originally posted by sean_uk
I've nothing against people who choose to donate their organs, just the self-righteous, brainwashed hypocrites who do not understand FREEDOM!