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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
Well, it's even worse than that. We don't own our food supply either. Coporations shut down almost every private farm in the midwest during the early 80's. Remember the farmers having standoffs with cops refusing to leave the land their grand and great-grand ancestors had settled? Those private farms were shut down, foreclosed on, and sold to corporations who turned the many smaller plots into several larger mega-farms. Today, most farms are run by machines. GPS navigated un-manned tractors do all the work in the grain fields. But it was the same for other sorts of farms and ranches as well.
Now comes the best part. You are the private property of the Federal Reserve Bank which is a private corporation, not a government office. Majority control of that corporation is held by the Rothschild family, with the remainder divvied up among a few other elite families and international banksters. This was the cost of America's bankruptcy in 1933.
It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees. - Emiliano Zapata
Originally posted by Blaine91555
What an incredibly one sided thread
Not a word about who these Detainees actually are. Most of them had innocent blood on their hands long before this war started. Most of them are crazed fanatics who helped to enslave their own people.
Originally posted by laiguana
I doubt they would be there without sufficient evidence to begin with. What would be the purpose of holding random people there? That makes no sense. These -detainees- are there for a reason and if our government can extract crucial information that would aid in our efforts to fight terrorism then I see no problem in that.
Originally posted by bigbert81
Guantanamo Detainees Are Not Human Beings
(visit the link for the full news article)
On the sixth anniversary of the imprisonment of detainees at the Guantánamo Bay Naval Base, a United States judge threw out lawsuit brought by four former British detainees against Donald Rumsfeld and senior military officers for ordering torture and religious abuse, ruling that th the detainees are not "Persons" under U.S. Law, which according to another judge, means that they are less than "human beings".
Originally posted by laiguana
I doubt they would be there without sufficient evidence to begin with. What would be the purpose of holding random people there? That makes no sense.
Originally posted by Beachcoma
Could be to piss them off enough to the point they become zonkers and wacky. And then release them. Then they'd come back with a vengeance and then -- WHAM! Terrorist attack. Released detainees come back to blow themselves up. Defenders of the detention without charge will say "see, they are terrorist! Look what they did."