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Originally posted by greentea23
I was agnostic leaning towards Buddhist philosophy (which is sometimes quite an impersonal worldview) until recently, when I decided to try out this idea of a personal God who cares for me. I surrendered in a sense, humbly, and spoke to Him, and I felt an instant lifting of burdens of my shoulders. It was a magical experience. So now, I seem to be leaning towards the Christian concept of God.
Originally posted by syntax132
I'm confused about affirmations and what exactly they are. Why would saying to yourself, "I get 90% or better on all of my tests" be any more of an affirmation than writing down on a piece of paper, "I get 90% or better on all of my tests"?
What are all of the techniques that you guys have personally used and have had success with, and which ones worked the best for you?
The law-of-attraction states that you get what you put out, that what you experience is a match to your overall energy-vibration.
They did find a way to take something intricate, and put it into more simply applicable terms. Dont necessarily pay attention to the messengers, but to the message. The messengers are "only human" as are the audience. Both have their quirks and inconsistencies, as you have correctly sensed. If you are looking for an older and a bit more intricate "version" of the message, go back to the 1970s "seth books" by Jane Roberts.
"When you suggested, in Fort Collins yesterday, that if you think about a thing it will come to you whether you want it or not, and that a person draws their destiny to them; when I heard that, the words that came into my mind were: Auschwitz, Bialystock and Dachau. Are you saying that six million Jews invited extermination upon themselves?"
"We would never say they invited it wantingly or knowingly. But we unequivocally say that nothing happens to anyone without a predominant vibration that matches it." Just before Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, she says, "the people who did not want inconvenience left right away. People who are not accustomed to managing their life well, stayed."
"The poor people stayed."
"They are poor in vibration before they are poor in manifestation."
Esther and Jerry Hicks met in Fresno, California, in 1976; they married four years later. She was a book-keeper; Jerry, by his own account, had made a fortune by reaching the top echelons of Amway, a controversial multi-level marketing corporation whose product lines include cosmetics, jewellery and insurance. Critics claim the organisation has employed quasi-religious motivational techniques; certainly Amway [now called Quixar in America] has, like Abraham, generated substantial traffic on cult-watch websites. Jerry Hicks ascribes his business success to Napoleon Hill's seminal 1937 book, Think And Grow Rich.
"Well, if there is sincere desire, and you bring your belief into alignment with it, it can be. People say: could I grow back an arm that has been amputated... is this really possible? We say yes."
"Could the following of Abraham become as widespread as Catholicism, or Judaism?"
"We are at the heart of the majority of religions you would know."
"So other people are doing the same work?"
"That which Jesus Christ was, Esther is now. Not Esther alone. That which Buddha was, Esther is now. That which Mohammed was, Esther is now."
"So how was it," I ask her, "that you first came to transmit messages from Abraham?"
It started in the mid-1980s, she tells me, when the couple were living in Phoenix, Arizona.
"Jerry had been reading the Seth books [channelled messages from a spirit guide, written by the late Jane Roberts]. I was afraid. Seth spooked me. But I warmed to it. I'd lay on the sofa and Jerry would tickle my feet, and we'd read Seth for hours every day."
"They told me the name of my guide would be given to me in a clairaudient experience. Theo asked us to meditate; to sit in a room and focus on our breathing."
When they got home, Esther recalls, she and Jerry changed into their bathrobes and sat together, in wing-backed chairs.
"We put an étagère between us, because it felt so strange. Almost immediately I was numb. I couldn't tell my foot from my nose. Something breathed me. That's how I describe it. It was my first contact with Abraham. I was convulsing in ecstasy, making noises ..."
"What do you mean, noises?"
"Ecstatic sounds," says Jerry.
"You mean like sex?" I ask her.
"Yes. The energy was so strong that my teeth were buzzing - zzzzz. Abraham were moving my head. Later I realised that I was spelling letters in the air with my nose."
Each day for about two months, Esther spent about two hours translating for Abraham by the somewhat laborious means of nose movements. Then, one night in bed, Esther's hand began to thump on Jerry's chest. "That's not me" announced Ether, "It must be them". She felt urged to go to the keyboard. Her fingers were powerfully driven and she typed "iwanttotypeiwanttotypeiwanttotype ..." for a whole page before spelling out a request for her to spend a few minutes each day in this manner. A further two months passed with typing being the translation method..
It was while driving together on a freeway, that the next phase began. On a bend, in a middle lane between two 18-wheelers, Esther felt they were about to get sandwiched. She was scared, but at the same time she felt her jaw wanting to move, sort of like a yawn causes your mouth to move. She relaxed and the words "Take the next exit" came out. They did as directed, and spent hours under the overpass talking excitedly about what had happened. This was the beginning of Abraham-Hicks - Abraham speaking through Esther.
"LOA" was not invented by them. Their latest books just happen to popularize the concept so that it becomes available to the masses. The "LOA" concept comes from the "New Thought" (check wikipedia for that). Movement of the nineteenth century. It arose with the Industrial Revolution. Predecessors of it can be found in religion and mysticism, especially in the ancient Vedas.
Originally posted by oneclickaway
I understand they did not 'invent' the LOA. Although correct me if I am wrong but the very term LOA is a modern one and the older texts spoke not of LOA but of many universal laws which all intertwine.
Then again these people did invent a dumbed down incomplete version of a possible truth after rewriting bits from other texts in order purely to make millions upon millions out of greed and sometimes delusion. They didn't just happen to popularise anything, it is a cynical move to make money on the back of gullible and often vulnerable people.
I am not sure the idea of growing an arm back is a great thing to have available to 'the masses. is it?
Originally posted by FlySolo
I was going to ask you about what you thought about Jerry and Esther Hicks but I see it was already brought up.
I have a question(s) regarding LOA. Some time ago I too stumbled on the secret and from time to time I try to meditate. Currently, I'm using a "bach to the future" mp3 I found in a post here some one created for ATS which uses binary beats . I think you would be familiar with this. I find this seems to really help me slip into a trance where I am able to visualize where I want to be more clearly.
My question is this: How long/often must I keep it up before I would begin to see results?
I'm guessing times vary depending on the amount of baggage one carries? If this is true, then wouldn't one first need to let go of their baggage before the LOA can finally kick in? With that being the case, then we all know it may take years if ever at all for one to let go of their negative belief system. Psychologists, therapy, hypnosis... $$$
I have another question. Many times I do worry about things in excess but nothing materializes. Yet, other times I'm right on the money. (Current new boss) I knew he was going to get an offer and start rocking the boat. Why some and not others considering the framework for my energy is currently based on the "have not" ideal.
I would also like to make an observation. Now that we have facebook, we can all see how our friends live their lives in the lap of luxury. Constantly posting about where they've been, who they know, what their doing now, and on and on. Their lives are great, I would have to wonder if they have always been like that. I would also have to wonder about their upbringing as a child. |How much support they may have received from their families. Perhaps even sheltered somewhat from the evils of the world. No horror movies, no bad news on tv, the perfect Brady bunch or Huxtable family. Compare that to the have nots. Do you feel it makes a difference?
So in summary, how does one get rid of the baggage? How long will it take to change your belief system? After all, this belief system is the foundation for our adult personalities. Its far too late to change our personality, but i know you can change behavior. Eventually changing your behavior will result in slight personality shifts.
Originally posted by Stillalive
flaged,stared,baked n shaked,thank you my good man thats what i needed to know
not like the movie the secret where they kinda lye..not the visual thing
the feeling from the visualing is important ait?