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How "the law of attraction" works

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posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:58 AM
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Casinos do have "coolers"...but the fact that they do is not widespread. They keep that for themselve.

And you are very right that this is related to the law-of-attraction.

You see, when we´re talking about a lot of money being moved, skeptics suddenly become believers


What happens is that if a table goes into a winning-streak and the people get hyped up...this attracts more of the same - at substantial losses for the casino.

So they have to send in a "cooler" to deflect the energy and "cool the table down". They do this by distracting people, and interjecting negative comments.




posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by j_kalin
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On a personal note, I have successfully used the LOA to achieve/acquire things, but my problem is that they sometimes arrive via some very unpleasant and disturbing events...I feel like I have an extremely powerful ability to manifest things, but I don't know how to guide their creation. Is there a way to make my desires manifest via positive circumstances rather than negative ones? Or, do I have to just trust the universal mind to do things as it sees fit?


Manifesting and visualizing, using your free will, is great but always remember to surround it with feelings of the highest good for all concerned.

eg. No-one wants to manfiest $10,000 only to find that it comes to them via the death of a relative and their last will and testament.

There's nothing wrong with personal gain - the more I have, the more I can share but I'm always very careful to make sure the bigger picture includes feelings of the highest good for all that my own goal/desire/whatever is going to touch.

I'm also a great believer that the Universal Mind knows better than I do as to what is best for me, in any situation, and often simply 'ask' (for want of a better word) for whatever is best for me to be manifest in my life for the greater good of all concerned.

Life could get very dull and boring if we could all simply manifest whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted and therefore a few hills and mountains in the way can actually be quite welcome and the Universal Mind knows when I need a challenge. How I deal with that challenge is down to my own free will but the fun and stress of how to deal with the challenge and make my own choices makes me feel very much alive.

I'm also surprised at how many people try to manifest things rather than emotional states. If I'm focusing on having happy emotions then it probably follows that I'll have all the material things I need, at that moment in time, to give me the happy emotions. If I'm feeling that life is depressing then I'm probably going to have all the material things that cause depressed feelings.

I've always taught my children to focus on their feelings and emotions and if they start to feel negative about something then they stop and ask themselves why. If they can change the thing causing the negative emotion then they do but if not then they try to find something to build some positive emotions.

Remember, before you have a thought about something you have an emotion that caused that thought. So many people let their emotions rule them rather than the other way around.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating



Originally posted by Syntax123
This is an awesome thread, but I have a few questions about the law of attraction.

1. Would you ever attract something you wanted illegally? IE, someone who wants more money is lined up with the opportunity to steal the money he/she needs.


I like your questions because they reflect some of the most voiced mass-consciousness-negative-beliefs. This one is a variation of "in order to achieve something, you have to give something else up" or "no pain, no gain" or "you can succeed at the detriment of others" (all the same belief).

You can create anything you like without harming anyone. Its important for society to learn this.

Should it happen that the universe tests you in this way, refuse the temptation and insist that you can also have it without stealing. You really can.



2. What if someone feels deep resentment towards you and wants you dead, could they attract this death upon you?


Only if you allow it. That persons strong intent only has an effect with your permission and consent. If you know how to put your own vibes first, nothing others say or do or think or plan has any effect upon you. Only your own thoughts do.



3. What if two people want the same thing, such as a job promotion?


Making ones creation dependent upon others and what others think, say, do, is THE #1 stopper when it comes to creating reality. If you stay aligned with your vision and trust you will get either that promotion or something better elsewhere.


Thank you for the replies.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 08:46 AM
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Wow, I can't believe it took me so long to find this fantastic thread... actually, I just noticed this whole new forum today!

My friends call me the "Manifestation Queen", because after years of trial-and-error experiences, I've got (co-)creating down to a science. Small things I want to manifest often come to me within days, big things (house, car, job, new pet) usually take a few months.

So, here's my two cents.

First of all, I think manifesting the right things for the right reasons is very, very, very important. I can't emphasize this enough. And manifesting for the right reasons includes knowing yourself very well, without rose-colored glasses, and being able to get to the bottom of your Self, i.e., what drives you, what motivates you, what are your fears and where do they come from?

Let me get into this a bit more.

What I mean by "manifesting the right things for the right reasons" is that I believe in my heart that if you try to manifest things and your reasons are vanity, greed, power lust, selfishness, etc., there will be a price to pay... a price you probably don't want to deal with. It's very important to be honest enough with yourself to recognize your underlying motives and if you find your reasons are the above-mentioned, I'd advise to keep your hands off it.

For example, I NEVER, ever try to manifest lumps of money or winning the lottery. I also NEVER try to manifest anything I don't honestly feel I need.

So, let's say you're thinking of manifesting $200,000. Instead of doing that, it would be better to consider WHY you want this money or WHAT you need it for. Do you wish you had a nice house because yours is falling apart? Then manifest the house, not the money to get it.

On the other hand, if you just want another house because you feel like you absolutely have to have a McMansion, then ask yourself first: WHY? Why do I feel the need to brag about my house? What do I hope to gain from this?

If the honest answer is: I want to impress my friends, family, and neighbors... then ask yourself again: WHY?

If the honest answer is: Because I feel the people around don't value me enough, and I want them to view me as a winner... ask WHY?

If the honest answer is: Because I want positive attention... ask WHY?

To make a long story short, in almost every case, the final answer will boil down to: I want to be loved.

Then go and manifest that love, not the McMansion.

(to be continued)



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:37 AM
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(continued from above)

Here's the other part of my "manifestation ethics": "Manifesting the right thing."

Now, how do you know something you want is the right thing for you? You really don't.

Let's say you absolutely want that accountant job with Miller, Miller & Smith. You love the people there, you love the work, the pay is good... everything seems perfect. Emphasis on "seems"... If you just go ahead and manifest that particular job, something unexpected could happen that makes the job much less desirable. E.g., the boss you love retires or quits, and you get another one who makes your life a living hell. Or you'll get a coworker who's just insufferable. Or the company is going bankrupt after a few months of you working there.

This kind of negative, unintended outcome can be prevented in two ways:

1. You ask for that specific job with Miller, Miller & Smith, but add a "caveat clause." I usually write down what I want to manifest, using the present tense, e.g. "I am now happily working as an accountant for Miller, Miller & Smith." Then I would add a phrase like this: "Dear Spirit [insert "Universe/God", whatever you believe in], please help me manifest this IF it is the right thing for me and IF the time is right." This, of course, requires a certain amount of humility, i.e., you admitting that you don't know EVERYTHING and that you really have no idea what's best for you.


At the end of my manifestation lists, I also usually add "To the Highest and Best of All Concerned -- so be it."

The latter is my personal "insurance" against nasty tweaks. For example, you may try to manifest a house, and you get it because your Mom suddenly dies and you inherit hers. That's why "To the Highest and Best of ALL CONCERNED" is such an important phrase. Don't ever forget it.

2. The second method is not to focus on a specific job in a specific firm, but on the general outcome, i.e., what you actually hope to get out of that job... and then trust the Universe/Spirit/God in his/her/its infinite wisdom to make the right choice FOR you.

Describe in detail -- and I mean, IN DETAIL, because "careful what you wish for" -- what you expect from your ideal job and make a list with as many bullet points as you can possibly think of. An example could be "I am now working in a job that is satisfying and fulfilling to me, financially, intellectually, emotionally and spiritually." Get as specific as you can without naming an actual job. Have faith that the Universe/Spirit/God will sort it out for you. This requires trust and, again, a certain degree of humility.

Also important: with every bullet point you write down, think about your wording and if there's any chance that this could turn into something negative. Then add "clauses" to prevent it from going in that direction. Unfortunately, I had to learn that the hard way.


For example, once I came out of an infatuation with a guy who was incredibly charming but would never let anyone see his true Self. He never talked about his private life, his emotions, anything. So I made a "soulmate list" and one of the bullet points was "I am now with a man who is sensitive and able to express and freely talk about his emotions."

Three weeks later, I met J. and got together with him... and boy, was HE sensitive and able to express his emotions. Unfortunately, he did nothing but. Every day I got an earful about how someone had hurt his feelings and his general sadness about the state of the world, etc., etc. He was such a whiner that after three weeks I couldn't take it anymore and kicked him out (he was staying with me temporarily because his former roommates had kicked him out too). So much for that -- BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.


Today, if I had to do it over again (already found my true soulmate), I would write that same sentence, but add "but he's ALSO strong and self-confident" or some such. You see how it works?

If anyone has any questions about manifestation, how to do it right, and what the pitfalls are, feel free to ask me. I'm always happy to share this kind of stuff.

[edit on 7-10-2008 by sylvie]

[edit on 7-10-2008 by sylvie]



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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Wow sylvie you make it sound like a deal with the devil. Or that Loki is mischievously spinning the wheels of fortune.

What you're describing is very good, though, especially as it causes one to examine 'true' motives. Self-realization is what it's all about. The 'clauses' you describe give a framework that acts as a check-list, kinda?

Your description of asking 'why?' several times to get more to the root of things is great. That's such a good technique, not just for personal motives, but for examination of all sorts. I believe Toyota, at one time, instituted such a thing as an official management policy, to better avoid chasing effects rather than addressing causes?

 


As a separate thought from my comments to sylvie, since I just mentioned management, I'd like to express my exasperation for obviously 'pseudo-positive' attempts at management to use LoA-type techniques. If I have to read one more email that glosses over quite relevant and complex issues with the phrase "I'm sure everything will work out just fine!" and a little smiley face, I may have to get a little more metaphyically analytical in my responses and reactions
. If you know me, that should raise an eyebrow or two.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ian McLean
Wow sylvie you make it sound like a deal with the devil. Or that Loki is mischievously spinning the wheels of fortune.


Not at all. I think manifestation in itself is just neutral "creation energy"; it can be very beneficial or it can bite you in the a** if you're not careful how you handle it. I've heard so many people complain that manifestation doesn't work; they've tried it, but never get the outcome they're looking for. As Skyfloating already said in the OP, there's a lot more to it than people think. One of those things is the inability to receive, due to negative thoughts and feelings that undermine what you want to manifest... but there are techniques to get rid of them.

Another thing is "wanting" instead of visualizing that you have "it" already. This only increases the wanting, not the getting.

I could go on and on. Suffice it to say that I believe we manifest/create all the time, just most of us are doing it unconsciously, with random or even negative outcomes. It takes practice to do it right, but it's just a learning process like everything else.


What you're describing is very good, though, especially as it causes one to examine 'true' motives. Self-realization is what it's all about. The 'clauses' you describe give a framework that acts as a check-list, kinda?


Absolutely. It's like putting down a "legal framework" within which to operate. If you don't do this, the consequences can reach from comical to tragic.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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Does anyone want to talk about LOA and manifesting in the midst of global economic meltdown and rampant fear?



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by sylvie
Wow, I can't believe it took me so long to find this fantastic thread... actually, I just noticed this whole new forum today!

My friends call me the "Manifestation Queen", because after years of trial-and-error experiences, I've got (co-)creating down to a science. Small things I want to manifest often come to me within days, big things (house, car, job, new pet) usually take a few months.

So, here's my two cents.

First of all, I think manifesting the right things for the right reasons is very, very, very important. I can't emphasize this enough. And manifesting for the right reasons includes knowing yourself very well, without rose-colored glasses, and being able to get to the bottom of your Self, i.e., what drives you, what motivates you, what are your fears and where do they come from?

Let me get into this a bit more.

What I mean by "manifesting the right things for the right reasons" is that I believe in my heart that if you try to manifest things and your reasons are vanity, greed, power lust, selfishness, etc., there will be a price to pay... a price you probably don't want to deal with. It's very important to be honest enough with yourself to recognize your underlying motives and if you find your reasons are the above-mentioned, I'd advise to keep your hands off it.

For example, I NEVER, ever try to manifest lumps of money or winning the lottery. I also NEVER try to manifest anything I don't honestly feel I need.

So, let's say you're thinking of manifesting $200,000. Instead of doing that, it would be better to consider WHY you want this money or WHAT you need it for. Do you wish you had a nice house because yours is falling apart? Then manifest the house, not the money to get it.

On the other hand, if you just want another house because you feel like you absolutely have to have a McMansion, then ask yourself first: WHY? Why do I feel the need to brag about my house? What do I hope to gain from this?

If the honest answer is: I want to impress my friends, family, and neighbors... then ask yourself again: WHY?

If the honest answer is: Because I feel the people around don't value me enough, and I want them to view me as a winner... ask WHY?

If the honest answer is: Because I want positive attention... ask WHY?

To make a long story short, in almost every case, the final answer will boil down to: I want to be loved.

Then go and manifest that love, not the McMansion.

(to be continued)


I understand your viewpoint of boiling down to your true desires, but is there anything else that makes a greed or vanity filled desire bad?



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 08:36 AM
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What the World needs now is some happy thoughts!

We are creating all of this doom and gloom. Come on people...focus on some positive intentions for yourself, your family, your community, your country and the world. Let's turn this tide of negativity.

We need to use our collective consciousness to manifest a solution to the worldwide chaos going on right now. We need to be the Peace. We need to be the solution.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 09:39 AM
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What's wrong with greed or vanity? Well, it depends which philosophy you subscribe to, I guess. If you think that there's no objective right or wrong, the answer would be "nothing." If you think that we're here on Earth to learn and grow and that part of that learning process is to get along with and care for other human beings, then the answer would be "everything." From my viewpoint, I'd say that things like greed, vanity, power lust, etc. are not constructive but destructive qualities that we should try to overcome. I also believe in cause and effect, action and consequence. So if you act out of greed, there's a repercussion. As the witches say: "Whatever you send out comes back to you 3-fold."

[edit on 10-10-2008 by sylvie]



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by GirlNextDoor
Does anyone want to talk about LOA and manifesting in the midst of global economic meltdown and rampant fear?


I'll say this:

Every single person has some very important decisions to make in the coming weeks, whether he is a CEO of a company or just a mail clerk. Whom to pick to represent us, what to do with our finances, how to take care of our families and our futures in uncertain times are a few issues which take precedence and effect everyone.

These decisions seem overwhelming and frightening because they're so important, but we have the power to make everything right. We have the power to brighten the future for ourselves and for everyone. We just have to believe we hold this power, and most importantly, choose to wield it.

Vote. Help someone in need. Improve the bedrock of your finances. Continue to enjoy life. Most importantly, believe that all of this will actually make a difference. Haha, I know it seems like a pretty big leap of faith, but if you don't believe it then it isn't true.

No one is exempt.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by sc2099 but we have the power to make everything right. We have the power to brighten the future for ourselves and for everyone. We just have to believe we hold this power, and most importantly, choose to wield it.

Thank you, sc, for your thoughtful answer. I'm still pretty new to this, and I'm finding it difficult to focus. It's like my brain is full of mental static and my motivation is just sapped. Your answer here is a helpful reminder that I'm choosing to let these circumstances make me feel a certain way (fearful), and the only way I'm going to stop feeling that way is to turn off the media feed, stop talking about it, stop brooding about it.

Time to stop rubber-necking at the car wreck and get focused again on my destination.


Vote. Help someone in need. Improve the bedrock of your finances. Continue to enjoy life. Most importantly, believe that all of this will actually make a difference. Haha, I know it seems like a pretty big leap of faith, but if you don't believe it then it isn't true.

No one is exempt.



Again, thank you.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 02:25 PM
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I wanted to post something here on "desire".

I'll manifest things all the time and sometimes I wont see results until later then expected whereas something else that I didn't really want to see, will manifest almost immediately.

For instance, if everythings in place like if I had a good meditation one day with some emphasis on visualisation, I'll go to bed and will myself to get sleep paralysis to OBE or dream of a certain thing, and I will.. but sometimes I'll manifest dreams that I don't want.. it will be an idea that pops up and I'll say to myself, nah i don't want this right now, it's not imortant to me.

When I try to manifest something I find I'm trying to convince myself that I desire the outcome, that I really want it to happen. I'll state it in my mind and usually I'm pretty serious when I want something, but still.. its still like I'm forcing myself to desire since I'm the kind of person who is totally accepting of how things are and content with it.

I think I figured it out, its not enough to say you want something, to really THINK you want something, true desire is just felt, and its so subliminal and often dismissed/ignored... its like a deep pulse right in your soul, you'll think of a person or thing and you'll just have this deep longing for it, this to me is true desire, and this seems to manifest for me even when I tell myself "I don't want this".. Another way to look at it is that saying I dont want it, is still acknowledging it, thus focussing attention on it, at least subconsciously.

I'm still trying to figure it out, but I'm sure in time I'll be able to manifest whatever I want, and really want that is.



Anyone got any other inputs on feeling/knowing true desire for effective manifestation?

- SG



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by GirlNextDoor
Does anyone want to talk about LOA and manifesting in the midst of global economic meltdown and rampant fear?


If you closely examine the daily newspapers of...lets say...only the last 100 years, you will find out that this is nothing new. According to these, we are constantly "on the brink of total destruction". Remember the great depression? Remember WWII? The Vietnam War? 911 and "The War on Terrorism?" And now the "Great Economic Crisis of 2008".

Conspiracy-Theory states that fear is manufactured perpetually. Law-of-Attraction-Theory states that this neednt have anything to do with you as you are yourself responsible for which aspects of reality you attract. The Wizard/Shaman is not swayed by the ever-changing winds of fear and desire but stands poised, responsible, clear and optimistic regardless of what is happening around him/her. And in this way he/she is of the greatest assistance to his fellow humans. What the 8 oclock news dictates to be "important issues" is irrelevant. To be a force of good in your sphere of influence...thats relevant.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 02:21 AM
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Some input:

I dont think desire is the creating-force in the equation but only the preliminary step. Desire of something is one step seperate of deeply believing/feeling something as already-real.

So that deep feeling you were talking about is actually belief, not only desire. I agree that its a PULSE...and you can feel it pulse outward into the world and attract certain events.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by GirlNextDoor
Does anyone want to talk about LOA and manifesting in the midst of global economic meltdown and rampant fear?


I've been trying to manifest a new roof for my house since the beginning of 2008 and finally found someone, at the weekend, who can do a temporary roof for 1000 euros.

Ideally I wanted a new roof terrace at a cost of around 20,000 euros but for the past couple of months the need for just a roof overtook my feelings for a pretty, functional roof terrace. I'm not disappointed that I won't be getting my roof terrace, just yet, because my real desire is just to have any kind of roof so our family can move back home.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 12:14 PM
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Thanks for your input.

I'll get it yet. Its hard to understand how belief works.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by CavemanDD
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Thanks for your input.

I'll get it yet. Its hard to understand how belief works.


Ive been doing this since 10 years and still dont "have it down perfectly". And I never will. The Force cant be controlled the way our Ego would have it, it seems.

Sometimes I go months living only half-aware of my creatorship. But then, when I "get back into it" I know very well that its happening because I can feel it in my entire being...deep down...and "stuff" happens accordingly.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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I hear ya, I believe the go plays a good part in understanding how it works. As soon as I was introduced to such a such a concept as manifestation and its effectiveness, I think the first thing I thought was "this seems kind of greedy..or egotystical?" I look at it differently now but I think theres more to it then saying "I want this".

I am very rarely aware of my manifestations, I think it would be a good idea to have a journal of everything we think and do daily but that would get tiring, but it could help see where the manifestation started and then progressed.



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