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How "the law of attraction" works

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posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 08:17 AM
reply to post by reject

Being mindful of what type of messages, images, communications you expose your mind to is certainly helpful as far as "law of attraction" is concerned.

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:54 PM

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Not so much a ramble as you just touched on something important: All these people wanting a "final solution", "enlightenment", "winning the lottery" are (imo imo imo) missing the point of being alive on this planet...with surprise, challenge and excitement.

I find this thread very interesting. But I must also touch on the winning the lottery scenario. I know everyone wants to win the lottery, free money who wouldn't? But, I do not necessarily see that as a bad goal. I work 6 days a week, nights, so I never get to see my son except to get him ready for school and put him to bed. I feel like I am losing valuable time with him to do meaningless work to support my family. My boyfriend works out of town 4 days a week and is on a daytime schedule. We have 1 day together and get to share sleeping quarters 3 nights/wk. In my situation, winning the lottery would bring me happiness and better fulfillment in life. I would have more time to spend with the ones I love. We are very interested in visiting ancient structures. I personally have been drawn to a certain few since I was a child. But, I can't even afford to buy the passports, let alone the "real" expenses of the trip.
So, for me, winning the lottery would not be a selfish "material" goal. It would afford me the time with my family that I desperately need. My son always tells me he wants to stay home with me, because he misses me. These are years I feel I am wasting, that I will never be able to get back. How horrible is that, that we may only have one life to live and I am spending 70% of it somewhere I hate being, longing for more "me" time? I am a responsible person and I work for my family, but it also takes away from what I feel is the importance of relationships.
As much as I believe in the power of thought, if that was all it took, I wouldn't be posting this. I would be posting about how much I love spending time with my family talking about these subject matters and how we would love to help others in "my" situation.

Keep posting here. I sure hope I find something that will spark my thinking into action.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 08:02 AM
reply to post by geishagirl97

We werent condemning focussing on the lottery per se.

We were saying that focussing on the lottery limits perception to that one source. Instead of focussing on the lottery one should focus on what one really wants to have (time, feeling of relief, to buy nice objects) and let the universe handle the details. .

Effective law-of-attraction does not concern itself with the how, when, from where, but with what is really wanted and why its wanted. The how, when, from where is taken care of by "the universe" which reflects what one puts out.

So, while there´s nothing wrong with winning the lottery, its not the most effective way.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 10:16 AM
Yes. Just what Skyfloating said.

Here's another way to look at "why" in the material sense, some people like to see examples.

You want time with your family. You want to be with your son. You want a job that satisfies you, rather than just a "slave for a paycheck" situation OR you want total independence from financial need altogether.

Think of all the many ways that COULD manifest. (I am going to deliberate include many "money" scenarios, since you had focused on the cash)

You could start a home business doing something you really love. You could inherit money. You could find a better job outside the house. Your significant other could find a better job. You could win the lottery. The whole of society could change, and we could stop honoring the slave wage system all together. You could find a really crazy great deal on a house and your living expenses could drop significantly. You could inherit a piece of land and it could be incredibly valuable. You could find a very rare antique, painting, etc. for 25 cents at a yard sale and resell it. You could have a kitchen fire, (and everyone is ok) and in the process of cleaning up the burned wall board, you might find a stash of cash or jewelry or gold.

There are of course many, many more possibilities, but the point is, if you only focus on the ONE way, winning the lottery, you sort of stop the possibility of any of the other ways manifesting.

Asking for what you really want, more time with your son and family, and the means of having a good life while doing so, (I always add a "harming none" clause) leaves the universe to find the means to your end. There are infinite ways for what you really want to manifest, more than you or I could ever imagine, and focusing on the true "desire" rather than your own limited perception of the best way to make that happen allows the universe free reign to bring you what you really want.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 10:44 AM
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander

As always Illusionsaregrander and Skyfloating have it nailed. I would just like to add that you could also choose to focus on the feeling you have when spending time with your family - satisfaction and happiness. If you focus on that feeling while you're with them rather than thinking about having so little time, having to go to work, your bf having to leave soon, etc. then you will beget more of that feeling via time together.

You should do the same at work as well. Rather than focusing on the clock and how many dreadful minutes are left in the day, focus on those same feelings of relaxation and happiness that spending time with your family brings you. Be with them in your mind. This focusing on them rather than on work will beget more real life time with them rather than time at work.

Also, don't forget to find ways to actively change your life as well. Peruse the want ads for a better job (casually, don't obsess). If there is a perfect job for you that pays much more or has fewer hours with the same pay you will definitely notice it. Browse the real estate papers for a cheaper pad. But don't obsess and don't feel negatively about your current situation. Instead, feel positively about your new situation which is only just around the corner.

Best of luck!

Don't forget to update us with your progress! We're all very interested and the lurkers love to read success stories as well.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 11:27 AM
After reading The Secret almost two years ago, I wrote a program that would randomly display a web page showing me a Thanks, an Affirmation and a Desire.

The Thanks phrases are things like "I am thankful for my wonderful house." "I am thankful for my loving and supportive friends and family." etc. This is the "sending out positive thoughts" part of The Secret.

The Affirmations are a mix of internal and external. "I am a master of my thoughts and of my life." "I provide well for my family and home." or the more banal "I will reach and maintain a weight of 185 lbs." or "I will receive more than $125,000 a year." (I did know not to specify how the money might come... didn't use the word "earn", allowing for the odd windfall...)

The Desires are a picture of something that would be icing on the cake above and beyond my affirmations... A summer vacation house; a new guitar; a flash for my camera.

I've been loading that page at least once a day for two years. Reading the words, putting it out there. It's hard to say how successful it's been. Some of the more abstract affirmations may be working. The more tangible ones (money & weight), not so much yet.


I don't know if I should shorten the list a bit to help focus on fewer Affirmations at a time, or what?

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 11:29 AM
I have not posted in this thread because I am unsure how to word this.

My mother is a VERY religious woman. No religiously preoccupied, mind you. But if something good happens she will verbalize "Praise the Lord" frequently.

This is quite different from myself, who leans more towards Buddhism.

However, we discuss religion frequently, and we agree frequently on the generalizations, differing on specifics.

One thing she has always told me is "The Lord will take care of you. Just be positive". Throughout my life I have seen this promise fulfilled with her, personally. Being a widow, life is not easy for her. But, over the last 3 years she has won 10k on lotto, a new laptop, a 2k dollar mountainbike, 1500 dollar baby bed, thousands in various gift cards, 2 Wii's (my boy has one, niece has the other), signed football helmets....many thousands of dollars in prizes. She enters sweepstakes as a hobby.

I don't have her luck. But i can say that anytime in my past that i ahve seen hard times, i have seen solutions present themselves. Money arrives in the mail just in time, i get the right job at the right in general just seems to work itself out. So much so, that i have just about completely abandoned the concept of "worry" (many years ago, actually).

This drives my wife crazy. She likes to stress. However, the more I have shown her how NOT to worry, the more things just seem to happen for us.

True, into everyone's life a little rain must fall. My mother was diagnosed with stage III lymphoma just over 19 months ago. She just recieved her 6 month check up, and all is well. She has a LARGE piece of scar tissue from where the tumor was. But she is in good health now, and the doctor feels positive in the near term.

During her battle with cancer there were dark days for all of us. Worry about mom, her finances (she owns rental property and we had a hard time with maintenance). Not to mention chemo at around 22k per treatment (she had 7 total treatments). Once again, we didn't worry. And once again, the answer was delivered in the way of a 150k dollar grant.

It isn't about mysticism. It isn't about having all you want. It is about knowing that you will be taken care of, working hard to make it happen for yourself, and then reaping the rewards of your hard work and positive outlook. Sure, bad stuff happens.
It is ok, and you should expect it. The "bad stuff" is what makes you appreciate all the good that is delivered.

I guess mom has it right. "The Lord will provide was is needed". Given my Buddhist beliefs, this fits right in, as the Universe DOES provide for what is needed.

Sky, this is an OUTSTANDING thread. I cannot say it strongly enough.

I will, in all likelyhood, end up sending you some U2U's. I just need to put words around what i am thinking.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 11:31 AM
reply to post by JoshNorton

I don't think you can concentrate on it. I don't think it is something you can "do". I think it is more how you live. Make it who you are, if that makes sense.

I get the feeling that it isn't a conscious effort that is needed so much as the unconscious. Who you are.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 12:05 PM
I hear ya. I'm part of the "no worries" camp, myself... A few years back, in short order, moved across the country, bought a house, moved into said house, got a job, started school and had a kid. In that order. (Yes, my wife who was self-employed and pregnant, and myself a soon-to-be student and part-time worker managed to get a good mortgage...)

As to "it's how you live your life", again, I agree. One thing that I learned on my own, and has been emphasized since I became a Freemason, is this (and I only recently decided how to verbalize it, so bear with me):

"You don't do the right thing to get a reward or recognition... you do the right thing because it is the right thing to do."

My friend's mother passed away recently, and I typed up the funeral program and had the copies made, and acted as an usher at the funeral... not because anyone asked me to do those, but because I knew I could and that they needed to be done.

So yes, we get by OK, and I'm not terribly worried about the future... but being able to pay off some old debts would be nice; getting more of that mortgage paid would be good; ensuring that I have money left over for my daughter's education would be excellent. I'd like to shift gears from "managing" or "surviving" to "prospering" if I can. And if I do, I have no doubt that those around me would benefit from the extra attention I can afford for their needs as well.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 12:32 PM
reply to post by JoshNorton

Repeating the same affirmation over and over is the oldschool reality-creating-method, but its not 100% effective.

Let me explain: The energy that is actually doing the creating is the emotional energy. So, if you feel overweight, it doesnt matter how often you say that you have ideal´ll still be overweight. Repeating affirmations may even be deterimental sometimes because after awhile a phrase looses its freshness and excitement (and thereby its energy).

Affirmations are merely a means, they are not the actual cause of a manifestation. The cause of a manifestation is a shift in vibratory frequency, a change in identity or belief-pattern. And there are many other ways to accomplish this, of which affirmation is not necessarily always the best.

If you want to keep using affirmations anyway, then rather than repeating the same phrase over and over, write a script about what you would like, or write down a daily intention, but phrase it differently each day so that it keeps its freshness.

The reason weight is a more difficult subject than money (money is easy to manifest), is because it is directly attached to the body, meaning it is something you feel all the time. Feeling weight all the time, its a bit of a challenge to feel "no weight". May this little hint point to the solution (good imagination is the solution...imagination that can make you feel like a different person).


(I´d like to comment on some of the other new posts later)

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 12:39 PM
reply to post by JoshNorton

To add to your first post:

What does a person who does affirmations on weight really BELIEVE about his weight?

He probably believes he is overweight.

So, first, acknowledge that belief-pattern. Write it out if you will.

Then write out a bit more of a believable statement. Rather than "I have perfect weight", start with "I believe if I move more or dance more, I will loose some weight". Once you have that down, you can expand what you are willing to believe.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 02:21 PM
Great Scott! thought I'd never reach the end of this thread; it's my favorite. I'm right in the middle of reading "Parallel Universes of Self" by Frederick E. Dodson and can not recommend it highly enough.

I have read all Abraham-Hicks and tons more, but this book is truly something special.

[edit on 18-8-2008 by Danelle]

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 02:38 PM
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

The longer Ive been into this, the more I "get it" in terms of stuff working out by itself and one having everything and anything one needs when one needs it. Its a basic "trust in life" or "trust in a higher source" thing. Having this lessens the necessity for controlled technique and effort....

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:17 PM
Good thread Skyfloating

I really just stumbled upon this thread, and as it has quite long lifespan, I will prolly say nothing new

Anyway, you mention to be a teacher on this matter and gladly answer any questions. Well, I had few questions but now I can merely recall one and that is, is following a consequence of attraction?:

When I encounter anything that puzzles me, I do think about it a lot and hard. Then, succesful or not in finding out the answer by mere thinking and familiarizing myself with the matter, I'll kinda forget this matter, then I suddenly one day may notice that I have all the answers that I was looking for given to me from various directions; they can appear as irrelevent appearing shards of information, or even as compelling realization. And this information can come from anywhere: from TV, books, papers, internet, friends or family members, even from byheard conversations of some unfamiliar people.

So do you think that above paragraph is an instance of attraction?

I guess I'll be browsing this thread for a while, so starred and flagged

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Hows the project moving along Illahee? I haven't included it since 4 weeks.

Ah I have been long off the track, conducting rather well unsavory experiments across various boards as to the extent one believes in their own mind they should continue with harm to others. Basically assessments on individuals that seem to have no internal moral compass. That is a whole other story and nothing like what it would seem.

Back to the experiment. It progressed rather well up to the last report and then dropped off dramatically in effect and change. At this point it is not in retrograde and is not moving forward. I could or should drive it harder but staying neutral is the most important aspect as its not even really a project that I am accountable for, just one that was left in limbo. Completion has gone up from where we began at 5% to now at 35% of the total, however it is hard to judge since some instances that were all but impossible have taken place to move forward to the present point.

It is clear when focus goes away and in this case I purposely avoided reminders, there is a clear drop in forward movement to the point of standstill. This has me stumped a little bit since almost all of my documented work has been singular objects and outcomes, and on my own. I'm not sure if a group dynamic must be constantly encouraged because of information overload affecting group members or if this is a natural pause in what is going forward. As an extended viewer of the process i'm not sure if it should be manipulated or not.

My opinion is to set a date everyone can focus on and begin again at that time? Will the manipulation derail the original direction of the work? So many possibilities to consider.

Open to interpretations and suggestions.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:31 PM
reply to post by v01i0

Yep...both steps done naturally: 1. Get into the vibe (familiarize) 2. Forget about it.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:35 PM
reply to post by Illahee

I had dropped support for it, yes (I had forgotten after a certain point). And this thread and support by vanitas, illusions, sc2099 had paused for awhile.

Further measures? I dont know. Maybe its time the last experiment ends and YOU step in to alter it.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Danelle
Great Scott! thought I'd never reach the end of this thread; it's my favorite. I'm right in the middle of reading "Parallel Universes of Self" by Frederick E. Dodson and can not recommend it highly enough.

I have read all Abraham-Hicks and tons more, but this book is truly something special.

[edit on 18-8-2008 by Danelle]

Welcome. I feel it is far from over. I wonder if we are just but a small fraction of the way there so far. I had a flash of vision so time ago where I was responding on page 196 of this thread, and explaining something about growth in vegetables but I don't quite remember what it was.....might be a different thread or possibility that hasn't opened up yet.

250 years ago we would be burned alive for experiment like these. Today we are hailed as vital components in a collective consciousness exploring paranormal science.

Times change.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:47 PM
reply to post by Skyfloating

Not being sure if this is a natural pause or not, I am hesitant to corrupt the process. There is in fact a very large change occurring at this very point in time (as I type this) which will bring a fresh staff of support people in to the project. Was waiting to assess the movement of that group before bringing it up.

I withheld that piece but it may be that a large move forward is taking place. So factor that information in to the whole and see if we can come up with a consensus adding that part into the process.

posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 05:57 PM
Just posting to add this to my favorites... Have pages to read

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