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How "the law of attraction" works

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posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 06:45 PM
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Thanks Sky, I will work on that.
The Secret/LoA was on Oprah today. They talked about some of the principles, and vision boards. Should reach a bunch more people now.




posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 11:52 AM
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Samantha was also reading The Secret book in the Sex and the City move, haha! I didn't realize it was such a pop culture thing.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by sc2099
Samantha was also reading The Secret book in the Sex and the City move, haha! I didn't realize it was such a pop culture thing.



I know...its all over the place lately. I was driving in the czech republic a few months ago and happened upon some backwater gas station there in a hamlet of 300 inhabitants. Ang guess what book I saw on sale there... "This is not my little secret anymore" I thought to myself.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by seagrass
My mom attempted once to do the old odd man out with me, and what felt like trying to do the old behaviors of pitting us against each other, but I tried to 'react' honestly and without too much emotion, and then she stopped. At one point she said she felt very nervous. I wonder what that was?


One thing I have noticed is that when one individual in a "drama" changes their behavior or "lines" that is exactly the reaction you get. The other actors in the drama are sort of thrown off because the script has been changed. This is all good, because they now sort of have to become a little more present just to keep up with the dialog. Good job. It is awesome that you stayed with yourself and remembered to breathe and watch your own reaction. I am very impressed with how well you did.


Originally posted by seagrass
There was one moment when my brother started to "puff up" about something he was going to say. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but in mid sentence, he stopped with that display and began talking normal again. Almost like something told him he didn't need to do that.

He just left, and I did the best I could. I think he felt pretty good when he left. I know I feel good. Thank you guys sooo much.


Your feeling good is the main thing. It IS about you, and your reaction first and foremost. With your brother just watching/taking note of what was happening changes things. People tend to puff up and talk louder when they feel like they arent being heard, and it is entirely possible that your close attention to what he was doing provided the reassurance that you were in the moment, right there with him. It is all about you, but in truth, everyone you have a connection with is connected to, or is in some way a part of you. What you do, how you react, changes everything.

Fantastic Seagrass.
I am really pleased you did so well. It only gets better with practice.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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Thank you for your kind words and encouragement IllusionsareGrander, your helping me has put you in my heart. I hope somewhere along the way I can help you too. Enough about me, I want to hear more about the LoA. I haven't been able to get out and buy a book yet, besides I like learning it here.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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I have been practicing the law of attraction for just over two years. What I have found is that your desires have to be in line with your destiny and your goals have to be attainable.
I spent months studying the law of attraction and trying to understand it before I started to do the visulization of my desires. I still do not fully understand it, but I do know it works.

My life was falling apart around me because of a phenomenon that was beyond my control or so I thought at that time. I had to come to the realization that I was not going to be able to stop what was happening to me, but I had to find a way to cope and try to regain control over my life.
The phenomenon that I speak of is called Organized Stalking (OS)
In 2006, after 14 years of stalking and harassment in the community I finally put a name to what was happening to me. I was so grateful to discover that I was not alone and that there were others globally who were also experiencing OS. I knew from observing the number of stalkers in my city that I was not alone in my city. I tried to talk about this phenomenon to my friends and family and soon discovered that I was not believed and I could see that I was heading to the nut house if I did not find a way to prove to my family and friends that this crap did exist.
I wrote a list of goals....here they are:

I wanted to find more targets of this covert war in my own city.
I wanted to convince my family and friends that I was a target of covert harassment and do so in a calm and rational manner.
I wanted to appear on the radio and tell the listening audience what was happening here and globally.
I wanted to regain control over my life.

All of the above desires were paramount in my mind and I did a lot of praying for protection as well. I began to take steps firstly to get myself into a place of acceptance of my fate and I recognized that I had to sound calm and rational when I spoke to people about this. I began to do much research into OS and found that knowledge was power. In order to become the calm person that I desired, I also began to meditate on a daily basis. Within months I could see the results of meditation and saw that I was coming to a calm place within myself.
I began to focus on finding more targets in the community and even was so bold as to put signs on my car about Organized stalking along with a web site. Within 4 months of putting the signs on my car I found another target here in my city. within in just weeks of finding this target I found another and then another. We are now a group of 12 targets in this area thanks to my determination to find targets like me.
After about 1 year of visualizing all my goals, myself and one other targeted individual in the community were invited onto our local radio to speak about this. I was then subsequently interviewed by another radio out of Seattle just months after the first radio broadcast. Last week, we just did our third radio broadcast.
After my first radio broadcast I had the support of my friends and family. I had a near brush with mental health when the police sent mental health to my door because of the signs on my car, but it back fired on them. When mental health showed up I had two witnesses present and both these witnesses believed me and they would not allow anything to happen to me and the mental health people left without doing a private interview.

I regained control over my life despite the adversities.
I am now a moderator on a forum for those who are multi-stalked. I try to explain what I have done to regain control over my life and the use of the law of attraction, but I am met with this statement from other targets "We did not attack this to our life" and they refuse to even look at the concept.
I just found this link about DNA and it talks about how thought affects our DNA.
www.luisprada.com...

Next goal>>convince other targets that this works

[edit on 14-6-2008 by iamcanadian2]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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For completeness sake:

I did this debate in which I had to scientifically argue that the world is getting better (despite mass-belief to the contrary) and it turned out that its easy to prove. Debate

This is relevant to the subject of the thread because many "law of attraction" gurus claim that the universe is generally a friendly place and that good things are our birthright that we neednt deserve or achieve but only allow.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 04:13 PM
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Ah the movers are done. Finally a place of respect for a topic that is most deserving.

A quick update on the project. The staff that bwas convinced it was cursed has done a 180 in their attitudes and two of them have said they think this thing can come together after all.

A few new ideas have come up from the vendors and it is clear there is a far larger pool of vendor support that has appeared from nowhere. One of the largest technical stumbling blocks has been overcome and an additional 10% of work has been completed.

I have avoided adding any ideas or thoughts and have stayed neutral to the outcome but there is a clear change going on without any meddling from me at all.

Nice work folks. Nice work.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
For completeness sake:

I did this debate in which I had to scientifically argue that the world is getting better (despite mass-belief to the contrary) and it turned out that its easy to prove. Debate

This is relevant to the subject of the thread because many "law of attraction" gurus claim that the universe is generally a friendly place and that good things are our birthright that we neednt deserve or achieve but only allow.



You had a very good argument going. I think some of the folks that were getting brainwashed on the other side may have woken up too.



posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 08:23 AM
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Well my friends, things are starting to get a little interesting now on the test project.

Two of the workers discovered this morning that an entire days worth of work that required manual interventions was already completed. It was done already.

The work that is scheduled on the roster to be completed after todays work.

The work that was to be completed tomorrow....... I just canceled the hardware techs visit for in the morning.


Stay tuned.



posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 09:50 AM
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Thanks for the update. Im glad something destined to fall apart has caught itself in the fall and re-evaluated its merit.

I will be adding another series of intentions (my third) in about a week.



posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 10:10 AM
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I just got done reconfirming with the two workers and it has been double checked. Although they were out and working this morning, tomorrows work roster has already been completed. We ran audits and no users were involved in the process and the system was not taken down or reset. The changes appear to have taken place on the rom chips themselves. I just don't have an explanation, at this point, it can't be time shift, and the work is carefully metered by schedule to make sure too much isn't attempted on any single day. Value of keeping notes.....

This is the real deal work and you folks are doing it.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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You already have helped me Seagrass. You are in my mirror too. Every situation that arises in my life, (anyones life) every circumstance I run across either directly (its happening to me) or indirectly (its happening to someone in my scope of awareness) is an opportunity to increase my own understanding of the subtleties of my own awareness/fears/areas of "blockage."

Not only our own family, but anyone at all we "see" has a message for us. If we are paying attention and not too stuck in the ego position of "helper/expert." All exchanges between beings are designed to be mutually beneficial. I learned an enormous amount via your scenario. So, thank you as well.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 02:17 PM
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Thats a good state. You must always tech, but also always learn. No human can ever learn all, so the quest to learn must never end. At times I am very surprised at the things I learn in nature as well as from others.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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Agreed Illahee. Nature has a lot of lessons for us. I remember watching an ant drag something several times his/her size up the side of a brick. The bit of food kept falling, and the ant just kept repositioning, and giving it another go. Eventually, after several tries, the ant made it. It was a lesson in persistence. (And in not letting the size of the problem stop you)



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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This thread is so refreshing. I am so glad I found you guys. It is nice to be with like minded optimistic people. (It's been hard to find lately for me) I have been in a good place since I found it. I bought some books, so I am on my way.

In nature, I have found that I am happiest where the water meets land. The edge of creeks, lakes, rivers, oceans. I need to spend more time in those places.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 12:12 AM
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Here's something I don't believe we've covered in this thread yet (although it's so long we might have already and I've forgotten!).

We've established that you reap what you sow in terms of emotions, and that emotions and reactions can be steered and controlled. However, what about the emotions we feel in our dreams? Most people don't know how to control their dreams or may not be skilled at it. So if someone is experiencing nightmares on a regular basis do y'all think that the negative emotion felt while dreaming manifests in waking life?



posted on Jun, 22 2008 @ 09:24 PM
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I don't believe so personally, I have always thought it was a way to confront fears we have that we are not consciously dealing with. I believe it works both ways. I believe bliss in dreams reminds us of what we want.
I watch my dog dreaming and whimpering in his sleep, and I am sure he is gearing up for possible people to bark at. He is a very shy fearful dog normally (he was a rescue), but he is becoming more and more of a watch dog and much more relaxed than he used to be. I am giving his dreams credit for that. (and some of my daily reassurance)


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posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 01:26 AM
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This is just my personal take on this:

LOA appears to me to be a concept that is thought to influence Synchronicity. While I have experienced my fair share of Synchronicity, I have tried not to apply subjective meaning to it. I have come to what may be a subjective conclusion about it though. I feel that this acausual principle is connected to the concept of the philosophical Logos and Nous. From my point of view LOA would be an attempt to somehow influence this Logos. In that sense it may not seem very different than Prayer or any other rites (Magic) that attempt to produce an affect in one's favor.

I'm not sure the phenomena should be called a Law though, which implies it is a universal constant. It does not seem to be universal constant. Even if certain conditions are met it doesn't seem to guarantee success. If the Logos is not a Blind Mechanism, that would help explain why Synchronous events seem to have their own pattern that they follow. Personally I think that the Logos could be much more than a Blind Mechanism.

What really disturbs me with LOA is the capitalization of the concept. From my point of view it places the value of commercialism and material success over Gnosis. I know some people feel if they are wealthy then they can pursue more esoteric matters and that can be achieved through LOA, but is that really the right way to go about Gnosis?

Personally I look at the Shamans, Philosophers, Monks, and various teachers throughout history. Did they pursue Wealth or Material Success?
I honestly can't think of any that did. Rather they did the exact opposite and lead Monastic lives, some in communal living. They cut themselves off from this subjective world of phantasms. Their entire goal often was knowledge and wisdom, aka Enlightenment. From my point of view I equate this with Consciousness and Awareness. It could be called realization, awakening, transformation or even Rebirth.

I look at it this way: Our reality is Subjective. Our Material Constructs(wealth/success) are even more Subjective. Why Pursue Subjectivity? Somekind of Objective consciousness, awareness, or gnosis should be the ultimate goal of someone seeking some kind of enlightenment. Everything here is Finite. Our subjective reality is one of shadows. Our flesh, our senses, life, and death are phantasmal in nature and have no overall bearing beyond our subjective point of view.

It really comes down to what is really important. Objectively pain, pleasure, life, death, good and evil are all infintesimal aspects of our subjective reality. What seems to really matter to me is if humanity can get beyond our artifical constructs, mindless instincts, and transcend the mentality of our subjective perspective.

Based on that view I feel the current trend in LOA is dangerous and it should be left to more esoteric circles, who can fully appreciate and understand the finite nature of our reality and constructs.






[edit on 23/6/08 by MikeboydUS]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 09:52 AM
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I think I might agree with you. I am not certain, ( our word choices are different) but I think you may be discussing this same concept;

post by Illusionsaregrander

I too am a little off put by the commercialization of the whole thing, but for a slightly different reason. It doesnt bother me so much that people are seeking greater material wealth or comfort. It may not be the most "spiritually developed" goal, but it is very much a part of human nature to do so.

I am most bothered that the "teachers" of the LoA, or whatever the principle may be called more accurately, are little more than used car salesmen/women. It seems they care less how useful the information is, and more that it sell lots of books/videos. That said, the audience is responsible for this as well. It is a consistent fact of human nature that promises of easy miracles will sell more books, pills, etc., than a truth that requires some sustained effort on the part of the practitioner.

One thing I am looking at at the moment is the claim that they (the authors of the "Secret") have historical figures like Plato on their side. I actually went out to get the book to see how they support this claim, (as I specialize in Plato and the ancient Greeks in philosophy) and of course there is nothing. I havent finished reading the "Secret" yet, so it may be in there, but so far I have not seen one single attempt to support their claim of a historical lineage to this "secret." I have found no direct references to the works of these historic figures that link their thinking with the promises of the modern book. Once they lay claim to all these highly thought of historical figures, it seems they simply carry on as if it were a given that one should accept their word for it that this is the case.

Now Plato, and many of the ancient Greek philosophers, and many mystics past and present DO have a secret. It IS overlooked by many western scholars, etc., but, it is not the "Secret" as handed out by that little publishing group. It is far deeper, broader and more meaningful that simply using your will to make things happen for you as an individual. This real secret CAN be shown as a lineage, with direct support from the ancient writings of these figures in virtually ALL the mystic traditions. One, consistent, (but very subtle and difficult to grasp with the thinking mind) secret.

Anyway, it was interesting to read your take on it.

Edit to add;

In your last paragraph you indicate that these things may be dangerous in the wrong hands and should be left in more adept hands, however it seems to me that in general, even the groups that claim esoteric knowledge are often doing little more than playing the same game. There are individuals in whose writing, actions, and lives you can see authenticity, but as far as groups go, I havent run across even one that has an uncorrupted understanding. It seems to me that the true "passing of the torch" of understanding does not happen within special groups except occasionally on coincidence. Instead this passing of the torch is a very private and individual thing that happens to an individual as a result of their own nature being compatible with the Truth. The Truth, the real Secret, is everywhere. It is in every sacred text ever written. Only someone whose character and nature is harmonious with this truth seems able to hear and see it. (And the ability to understand it varies in degree, it isnt an all or nothing thing) It also isnt elitist, what you may not see today, may become crystal clear the next day. The only barrier between us and this ability to see and hear these mystic truths is our ego or our idea of who we are.


[edit on 23-6-2008 by Illusionsaregrander]



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